[SATLUG] Whatever Happened to The Linux Course that SATLUG usedto give to Alamo PC Users Group?

[Chuck]

Actually Dean, those "grey beards" ARE the problem!

John Woody is great.  Even though he is a MS centric guy and makes his
living off that, he has the common sense to see the future and promise
in Open Source and Linux.  But I can't say as much for the rest of their
BOD.  They just repeat the same old MS provided lines and don't seem to
think for themselves!

You might not blame them on this respect -- as most of their money comes
from MS themselves.  But if that kind of selling out is what it takes to
keep the boat afloat -- I'll take my chances in the water with the
sharks!  Unlike MS, at least the sharks are honest about wanting to eat
you alive.  They don't sneak up behind you and lie about it while
stabbing you in the back.

Alamo PC's BOD reminds me of the media during our last, great
Presidential campaign.  The parties running would hand out a whole book
of "lines" they could use and the media just regurgitated it on the
air.  Didn't bother to look up any of it, confirm it, or even think
about it -- just repeat what they were provided.  Alamo PC's BOD seemed
to be doing the exact same thing when discussing Linux and its future. 
If they're that close-minded and won't think for themselves -- they're
not the kind of people we want to get hooked up with...



Chuck




On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 16:43, Dean McCall wrote:
> The nice thing about John and Alamo PC is that they have merged there reach
> and membership with SalsaNet.  In an effort to assist the organizations in
> the region the idea of community has a bigger foothold than it did just a
> few years ago.  At present we are the process of rebuilding the officers and
> BOD of SalsaNet to reflect a bit more on the up and coming stars of the
> region.  The problem with most of the organizations in the region was that
> they were ahead of the curve and had no real footing on how to proceed.  The
> nice thing now is that we have the "grey beard" advisory committee and the
> rock stars (or at least that's my take) ready to make a mark and attack the
> digital divide with a real movement.  The exchange of ideas between all
> organization is vital to this and something we are trying to solve...ideas?
> The dues are hard to collect and I agree against most of our visions...but
> at the same time $$ to fund projects has got to come from somewhere?  My 2
> cents...
> 
> dean
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: satlug-bounces at satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces at satlug.org] On Behalf
> Of Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:13 PM
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Whatever Happened to The Linux Course that SATLUG
> usedto give to Alamo PC Users Group?
> 
> Summer 2003, the local Alamo PC Users Group (which we've had some
> relationship in the past) asked us to do a "Linux 101" basics course. 
> We came to an agreement on format, numbers, place, and time and gave the
> course last fall as a two hour class each Wednesday evening for 10
> weeks.
> 
> The class started out somewhat difficult as we had more than 50% more
> people than planned (and agreed upon).  But it seemed to work out well. 
> Alamo PC has seemed to show an interest in having additional classes,
> but has not officially approached us about more classes.  In addition,
> while their members were very enthusiastic about it along with one of
> their board members, John Woody, the rest of their BOD were downright
> chilly to our partnership.
> 
> They did make the suggestion that we 'merge' into Alamo PC and become
> just one of their SIGs (Special Interest Groups).  But our fundamental
> belief of ZERO cost (just like our software) didn't jibe with their
> annual membership fees.  And quite honestly, we didn't see any advantage
> to becoming just a small part of another group instead of staying a
> fully independent organization of our own.  So, as you can guess -- that
> suggestion got the laughter it deserved and was quickly dropped!
> 
> That's the history of our Alamo PC class.  If they have members
> interested in more classes, they haven't approached us with the
> request.  And if we wanted to do additional classes, we would have to
> begin collecting all the presentation material last year.  (The classes
> were presented by many individuals who each developed their own
> material).
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 13:16, Richard York wrote:
> > Whatever Happened to The Linux Course that SATLUG used to give to
> > Alamo PC Users Group?
> > 
> > Richard York
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