From satlugmail at rcsinc.us Mon Aug 1 00:56:51 2005 From: satlugmail at rcsinc.us (Vinny Huckaba) Date: Sun Jul 31 23:33:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] GoodWill Computers in San Antonio In-Reply-To: <200507310218.46824.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <200507310218.46824.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <42EDAB93.4000902@rcsinc.us> Went there last month and got a Sun Ultra 1 384MB RAM, ~8G HD, for $30.00 they also had some Sun clones for $75.00. Cool place, nice staff... Tom Weeks wrote: >Hey SatLUG officer types... > >I know that you all had spoken about GoodWill Computers coming to town. Well >I swung by their 410 store today, just west of Callaghan, and spoke with the >store manager, "Link" Williams. > >It's a small shop, all x86 stuff at this point (nothing that "X-otic"), but >the place has a lot of promise. If you have any cool stuff to get rid of, I >recommend dropping it off there as soon as you're able. > >I told Link that I was close with the local Linux community and of SATLUG's >install-fest efforts, and he was interested in combining forces. GoodWill is >about to launch a media blitz to advertise the GoodWill Computer centers in >San Antonio to all the local press. We both thought it would be cool to have >local open source representation at one of their big press events. SatLUG >and XCSSA could be there, both helping with installing open source distros on >attendees boxes. > >Anyway, if anyone's interested in assisting with something like this, contact >me and maybe a couple of us can go talk to Link at his store and formulate a >game plan that will be mutually benefitial. :) > >Tweeks >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From jeremymann at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 10:04:43 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Mon Aug 1 08:40:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] comparison of processors (OT) In-Reply-To: References: <79ec289f05072512502d0568ad@mail.gmail.com> <42EA5F05.9060003@mccoyfam.net> <42EA63EC.2030806@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <79ec289f05080107049a0a404@mail.gmail.com> The question was actually asked by an intern here in my office. I figured somebody on this list would have an answer. He has since wrote a program to figure out the timing. Thanks again. On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: > > >> Back in the i386 days, multiplication took a variable amount of time, > > >> depending on the number of leading zeroes in the binary representation > > >> of multiplier. Oddly, this was asymmetric; multiplying 2 by 100 took > > >> more time than multiplying 100 by 2. > > > > > > OT: that's because 2 * 100 involves actual multiplication. 100 * 2 is > > > just a single bit shift operation (as long as it doesn't overflow the > > > variable). > > (responding to myself) This assumes these are both values of variables. > > If they are static (or at least the 2 is), the compiler should reorder > > the 2*100 into 100*2 (as long as they are both int's) and bit shift. > > It has nothing to do with bit shifting; 2 and 100 are arbitrary, and I > could have used 17 and 101 instead. Compilers don't even enter into > the picture, as I'm talking about the chip's instruction set. > -- > http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ > GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From jeremymann at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 10:08:57 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Mon Aug 1 08:44:42 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] PCI and SATA questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79ec289f05080107081c1f5864@mail.gmail.com> Yes, you can use a 64bit PCI card (66mhz) in a normal PCI slot. At least the ones that I have. On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: > Hey... > > Normal PCI cards are 32-bit right? > And there's 64-bit cards, right, with more connectors -- do they work > in 32-bit slots? > And what's PCI-X and PCI-2.2? > > And is SATA-150 the same as SATA-II? > > Where would I find the answers to these kinds of questions? > I feel like there has to be a place... > Tom's hardware perhaps? I dunno, not really organized to make answering > these questions easy... > -- > http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ > GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From wmail at wricomp.com Mon Aug 1 10:34:53 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Mon Aug 1 09:10:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] comparison of processors (OT) In-Reply-To: <79ec289f05080107049a0a404@mail.gmail.com> References: <79ec289f05072512502d0568ad@mail.gmail.com> <42EA5F05.9060003@mccoyfam.net> <42EA63EC.2030806@mccoyfam.net> <79ec289f05080107049a0a404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:04:43 -0500, Jeremy Mann wrote: >The question was actually asked by an intern here in my office. I >figured somebody on this list would have an answer. He has since wrote >a program to figure out the timing. Thanks again. You may find the timings are much less dependent on the numbers being multiplied. Since transistor count is not as much of an issue any more, many processors use a lookup table to multiply, for example, 8 bits at a time using a 256x256 table of 16-bit results, or 131,072 bytes. That's a small ROM compared to the on-board L1/L2 cache. --Don >On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: >> > >> Back in the i386 days, multiplication took a variable amount of time, >> > >> depending on the number of leading zeroes in the binary representation >> > >> of multiplier. Oddly, this was asymmetric; multiplying 2 by 100 took >> > >> more time than multiplying 100 by 2. From jeremymann at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 10:38:47 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Mon Aug 1 09:14:32 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] comparison of processors (OT) In-Reply-To: References: <79ec289f05072512502d0568ad@mail.gmail.com> <42EA5F05.9060003@mccoyfam.net> <42EA63EC.2030806@mccoyfam.net> <79ec289f05080107049a0a404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f05080107384d42b466@mail.gmail.com> I think he was really interested in the timing differences between Intel and AMD Opteron. On 8/1/05, Don Wright wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:04:43 -0500, Jeremy Mann > wrote: > > >The question was actually asked by an intern here in my office. I > >figured somebody on this list would have an answer. He has since wrote > >a program to figure out the timing. Thanks again. > > You may find the timings are much less dependent on the numbers > being multiplied. Since transistor count is not as much of an > issue any more, many processors use a lookup table to multiply, > for example, 8 bits at a time using a 256x256 table of 16-bit > results, or 131,072 bytes. That's a small ROM compared to the > on-board L1/L2 cache. --Don > > > >On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: > >> > >> Back in the i386 days, multiplication took a variable amount of time, > >> > >> depending on the number of leading zeroes in the binary representation > >> > >> of multiplier. Oddly, this was asymmetric; multiplying 2 by 100 took > >> > >> more time than multiplying 100 by 2. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From cilorentson at devtex.net Mon Aug 1 13:10:09 2005 From: cilorentson at devtex.net (Chuck Lorentson) Date: Mon Aug 1 11:45:37 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] big desktop calendars software,free,,where??? Message-ID: <42EE5771.1090505@devtex.net> First this is not a _*big deal*_, it would just be _*nice*_, if I could find "it". I go down to Office Depot,Office Max ever year and buy their desk top calender, you know the big one, and I write on it all year long, phone numbers, names, and words ect, I need to learn to spell correctly 'next time'. I really like the big one because it has 'room' for all my scribbling notes, but I can look up right now and see where I have "filed" several years of these calendars,,,, (I keep, because I know I forget) and was just wondering if there might be a _simple, simple_, (_free_ would b nice) calender that I could install/download that would serve the same purpose for my 'desktop' on the computer/monitor. Somewhere in the recesses of my mind I recall something like 'this' that came with MS Outlook,,,,, but as I recall, it was way, way to complicated for my wishes/taste/needs. ( I think, I remember that) "Ahhhh, grasshopper, I understand, your need to keep notes" thanks in advance. "73" cl. From geoffw5omr at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 13:14:13 2005 From: geoffw5omr at gmail.com (Geoff) Date: Mon Aug 1 11:49:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] big desktop calendars software,free,,where??? In-Reply-To: <42EE5771.1090505@devtex.net> References: <42EE5771.1090505@devtex.net> Message-ID: > Somewhere in the recesses of my mind I recall something like 'this' > that came with MS Outlook,,,,, but as I recall, it was way, way to > complicated for my wishes/taste/needs. ( I think, I remember that) > "Ahhhh, grasshopper, I understand, your need to keep notes" > thanks in advance. "73" cl. There isn't one in Open Office? -- Regards, -Geoff Oscar loves trash, but hates spam. Get the Lead out to reply. From mikeaw at gmail.com Mon Aug 1 14:35:55 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Mon Aug 1 13:11:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] big desktop calendars software,free,,where??? In-Reply-To: References: <42EE5771.1090505@devtex.net> Message-ID: <4154519d05080111359a2eb33@mail.gmail.com> Would Mozilla Sunbird fit your needs? -Mike From koflanagan at satx.rr.com Mon Aug 1 23:52:19 2005 From: koflanagan at satx.rr.com (Kevin Flanagan) Date: Mon Aug 1 22:28:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] GoodWill Computers in San Antonio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c59715$957fb850$0a01a8c0@bugs> I'm sort of new to linux, but I'd be more than happy to help out. I could also donate some hardware. I guess you could say it's a win win situation -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Don Wright Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:41 AM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] GoodWill Computers in San Antonio On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:18:46 -0500, Tom Weeks wrote: > ... GoodWill is >about to launch a media blitz to advertise the GoodWill Computer centers in >San Antonio to all the local press. We both thought it would be cool to have >local open source representation at one of their big press events. SATLUG >and XCSSA could be there, both helping with installing open source distros on >attendees boxes. I'm not an officer but I am an Installfest regular. How long does SATLUG have to think about it? I suppose a few of us with SATLUG shirts could just happen to show up if the ossifers don't issue the official okey-dokey in time. --Don _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 From mynameiscaleb at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 08:24:33 2005 From: mynameiscaleb at gmail.com (Caleb Wylie) Date: Tue Aug 2 07:00:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] I/O Questions In-Reply-To: <8ee65edd050722144362e1ccb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ee65edd0507220451732dc5a9@mail.gmail.com> <4615.208.191.193.117.1122033914.squirrel@208.191.193.117> <8ee65edd05072210202770d49c@mail.gmail.com> <2046.208.191.193.117.1122049932.squirrel@208.191.193.117> <8ee65edd050722144362e1ccb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <99af515b0508020524652f9e35@mail.gmail.com> For some strange reason I just lost DMA on my FC1 box. All I had to do was download the latest and greatest of the 2.4 kernel series and compile away. Once I boot on the new kernel again I had DMA and it was nice as my system was acting just like yours all sluggish when it took a hit by a disk intensive action. Caleb On 7/22/05, Ed Coates wrote: > On 7/22/05, Eli wrote: > > Strange. It sure seems like the cpu is taking a beating during ordinary > > disk usage. > > > > I use this to get some relative numbers for i/o: > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/tiobench/ > > > > It executes multiple simultaneous reads/writes and gives a nice little > > report at the end. Perhaps it will create a picture of what's going on > > with cpu usage & i/o. > > > > I'm thinking that you're not really getting dma transfers. > > > > ~e > Eli, > > I think that you might be right about not using DMA. When I try and > change it from the command line, I get an error about permission > denied, even when I'm root. I've got the output from tiobench.pl and > hdparm -iI -d1 /dev/hda here: > > http://nighthawk.dyndns.org:81/tiobench.txt > http://nighthawk.dyndns.org:81/hdparm.txt > > If you could take a look at those, and let me know what you think. > And any ideas on how to turn DMA on. > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From edcoates at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 08:51:40 2005 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Tue Aug 2 07:27:23 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] I/O Questions In-Reply-To: <99af515b0508020524652f9e35@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ee65edd0507220451732dc5a9@mail.gmail.com> <4615.208.191.193.117.1122033914.squirrel@208.191.193.117> <8ee65edd05072210202770d49c@mail.gmail.com> <2046.208.191.193.117.1122049932.squirrel@208.191.193.117> <8ee65edd050722144362e1ccb7@mail.gmail.com> <99af515b0508020524652f9e35@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8ee65edd050802055175f8d352@mail.gmail.com> On 8/2/05, Caleb Wylie wrote: > For some strange reason I just lost DMA on my FC1 box. All I had to > do was download the latest and greatest of the 2.4 kernel series and > compile away. Once I boot on the new kernel again I had DMA and it > was nice as my system was acting just like yours all sluggish when it > took a hit by a disk intensive action. > > Caleb > I think that I figured out the rest of my problem. I think that the cable that I'm using isn't one to use for ata100 drives, or there may be a fault in it. I've got a 40gb drive on the same controller as a cdrom drive, and when I do a hdparm -t /dev/hdc, I can get 70mb+ of buffered reads. Off to the computer shop with me today to see if I can get another cable. Ed From satlugmail at rcsinc.us Tue Aug 2 12:35:48 2005 From: satlugmail at rcsinc.us (Vinny Huckaba) Date: Tue Aug 2 11:12:45 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] big desktop calendars software,free,,where??? In-Reply-To: <4154519d05080111359a2eb33@mail.gmail.com> References: <42EE5771.1090505@devtex.net> <4154519d05080111359a2eb33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42EFA0E4.9060904@rcsinc.us> Check out Qtopia. It syncs with the Zaurus and Palm... http://www.trolltech.com/download/qtopia/ Vinny Mike Wallace wrote: >Would Mozilla Sunbird fit your needs? > >-Mike >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From agrayfox at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 14:55:23 2005 From: agrayfox at gmail.com (augie) Date: Tue Aug 2 15:31:05 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with dual boot Message-ID: <1331203c05080213554101727@mail.gmail.com> Hey Luggers I have a boxen with Simply Mepis and win xp installed. I can boot into Mepis but when I try to boot into the win os I get the following: [title Windows at hda1] [rootnoverify (hd0,0)] [chainloader +1] [saved default] This prints on the screen w/o the brackets and it just hangs there. I've used the live CD and gone into the system and re-installed grub but the same thing happens when I reboot. Anybody have any ideas how to resolve this? TIA -- augie agrayfox at gmail dot com From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Aug 2 19:19:45 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Aug 2 17:55:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with dual boot In-Reply-To: <1331203c05080213554101727@mail.gmail.com> References: <1331203c05080213554101727@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:55:23 -0700, augie wrote: >I have a boxen with Simply Mepis and win xp installed. I can boot into >Mepis but when I try to boot into the win os I get the following: >[title Windows at hda1] >[rootnoverify (hd0,0)] >[chainloader +1] >[saved default] >This prints on the screen w/o the brackets and it just hangs there. >I've used the live CD and gone into the system and re-installed grub >but the same thing happens when I reboot. Here is the Windows section from my dual boot menu.lst: # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a # non-linux OS on /dev/hda1 title Microsoft Windows XP Professional root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 The difference I see is 'makeactive', which sets the Active flag on that partition table entry. This is needed by DOS-derived operating systems.[1] You can check that with your partition utility. It's OK to have Windows "active" even if grub boots Mepis as default, as grub and lilo don't need no steenkin' flags to find the bootable OS. If that doesn't work, your Windows install may be hosed. You can use the WinXP setup CD to repair the Windows boot loader, (FIXBOOT and FIXMBR utils - try without FIXMBR first) and then reinstall grub if necessary. --Don [1] A DOS Boot is marked TGIF - Toes Go In First. From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 21:26:31 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Tue Aug 2 20:02:13 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... Message-ID: <869de8470508021826796695de@mail.gmail.com> I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a NAS device affordable. Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has a power connector mounted on it? Thanks in advance.. FIRESTORM_v1 From cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com Tue Aug 2 22:49:05 2005 From: cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com (Charles D Hogan) Date: Tue Aug 2 21:25:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... In-Reply-To: <869de8470508021826796695de@mail.gmail.com> References: <869de8470508021826796695de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42F030A1.3080508@futuretechsolutions.com> If you know the output voltage, pin polarity, plug size, and minumum power requirements, you should be able to pick up something that will suit your needs at Radio Shack. All the above, except the plug size, are generally listed on the power supply somewhere. Charles FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a >NAS device affordable. > >Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and >so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. > >Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that >is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has >a power connector mounted on it? > > > >Thanks in advance.. > >FIRESTORM_v1 >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Tue Aug 2 23:06:59 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Tue Aug 2 21:42:41 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... In-Reply-To: <42F030A1.3080508@futuretechsolutions.com> References: <869de8470508021826796695de@mail.gmail.com> <42F030A1.3080508@futuretechsolutions.com> Message-ID: <869de84705080220061d8ca751@mail.gmail.com> that's the oddball thing It's a +5+12,-5,-12,+5VSB voltages just like a standard ATX power supply, except it's in a non-standard header. This isn't the kind of thing RS would have, (assuming they know what a power supply is anymore.. ) I have the followingf wires coming off the mainboard to the PSU: Red (+5v) Black (Gnd) Yellow(+12v) Blue (???) Brown(???) Orange(???) Any Ideas? FIRESTORM_v1 On 8/2/05, Charles D Hogan wrote: > If you know the output voltage, pin polarity, plug size, and minumum > power requirements, you should be able to pick up something that will > suit your needs at Radio Shack. All the above, except the plug size, > are generally listed on the power supply somewhere. > > Charles > > FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > > >I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a > >NAS device affordable. > > > >Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and > >so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. > > > >Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that > >is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has > >a power connector mounted on it? > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance.. > > > >FIRESTORM_v1 > >_______________________________________________ > >SATLUG mailing list > >SATLUG@satlug.org > >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From richhsuberg at stic.net Tue Aug 2 23:11:20 2005 From: richhsuberg at stic.net (RS) Date: Tue Aug 2 21:49:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] rsync error Message-ID: Does anyone know what code 23 could mean? I haven't been able to get my linux running again after hd crash (wife has too big of to-do list) and at the office we use CygWin (linux-like command-line for windows) to rsync folders/files. About a week ago, this rsync script started saying rsync failed (code 23) and the guys that set this up say we are the first to have this problem (yeah, right). Any ideas what this could mean? advTHanKSce Richard From solinym at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 00:09:06 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Tue Aug 2 22:44:47 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] comparison of processors (OT) In-Reply-To: References: <79ec289f05072512502d0568ad@mail.gmail.com> <42EA5F05.9060003@mccoyfam.net> <42EA63EC.2030806@mccoyfam.net> <79ec289f05080107049a0a404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > You may find the timings are much less dependent on the numbers > being multiplied. > >On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: > >> > >> Back in the i386 days, multiplication took a variable amount of time, Hence the phrase "Back in the i386 days". However, there are still many [sequences of] instructions that take a variable length of time*, depending on surrounding instructions, branch prediction failure or success, caching size and structure, prefetch, TLB usage, virtual memory page-in, pipeline stalls, operand location (register/memory), data dependencies, register renaming, functional unit parallelism, and so on. Asking for some number of cycles for each instruction is a fundamentally naive question on anything more complicated than a microcontroller, and multiplication operand size is merely a convenient example of why that question is broken. Asking the minimum number of cycles is a better question, but still not perfect. [*] Especially on the x86, whose instruction set is so antique and complicated (CISC-ish) that many instructions are themselves implemented in microcode. What a person normally means by his question is "which processor will be faster at running my workload and by how much?", and the correct answer is "it depends, run your workload on both and measure it". There is no simpler correct answer, and anyone who says differently is has never taken a quantitative computer processor architecture course or is trying to sell you something. TANSTAAFL -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com Wed Aug 3 00:46:40 2005 From: cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com (Charles D Hogan) Date: Tue Aug 2 23:23:09 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... In-Reply-To: <869de84705080220061d8ca751@mail.gmail.com> References: <869de8470508021826796695de@mail.gmail.com> <42F030A1.3080508@futuretechsolutions.com> <869de84705080220061d8ca751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42F04C30.1080402@futuretechsolutions.com> ah - I'm accustomed to Netgear products having an external AC adapter, and can find next to no info on it anymore. Could it possibly be a 1U power supply with the case ripped off to save a bit more space. The second power supply on the page below is close in size, but not quite there. http://www.rackmountequipment.com/products/powersupplies/1U/1upowersupply.html FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >that's the oddball thing > >It's a +5+12,-5,-12,+5VSB voltages just like a standard ATX power >supply, except it's in a non-standard header. This isn't the kind of >thing RS would have, (assuming they know what a power supply is >anymore.. ) > >I have the followingf wires coming off the mainboard to the PSU: > >Red (+5v) >Black (Gnd) >Yellow(+12v) >Blue (???) >Brown(???) >Orange(???) > >Any Ideas? > >FIRESTORM_v1 > >On 8/2/05, Charles D Hogan wrote: > > >>If you know the output voltage, pin polarity, plug size, and minumum >>power requirements, you should be able to pick up something that will >>suit your needs at Radio Shack. All the above, except the plug size, >>are generally listed on the power supply somewhere. >> >>Charles >> >>FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >> >> >> >>>I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a >>>NAS device affordable. >>> >>>Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and >>>so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. >>> >>>Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that >>>is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has >>>a power connector mounted on it? >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks in advance.. >>> >>>FIRESTORM_v1 >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SATLUG mailing list >>>SATLUG@satlug.org >>>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > From Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL Wed Aug 3 09:12:03 2005 From: Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL (DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA) Date: Wed Aug 3 07:47:48 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... Message-ID: <1CBE59FBA02D8940B2EC4230CAE72E4BD8907F@fstymx45.randolph.aetc.ds.af.mil> I know of several that fit that description...but what are the voltages and current requirements? Walt -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of FIRESTORM_v1 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:27 PM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a NAS device affordable. Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has a power connector mounted on it? Thanks in advance.. FIRESTORM_v1 _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL Wed Aug 3 09:33:49 2005 From: Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL (DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA) Date: Wed Aug 3 08:09:31 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... Message-ID: <1CBE59FBA02D8940B2EC4230CAE72E4BD89080@fstymx45.randolph.aetc.ds.af.mil> it takes only 35 watts of power so I am guessing that its a single voltage, perhaps dual voltage battery replacement powersupply such as used on small computers, etc. Walt -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of Charles D Hogan Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:49 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Well darnit... If you know the output voltage, pin polarity, plug size, and minumum power requirements, you should be able to pick up something that will suit your needs at Radio Shack. All the above, except the plug size, are generally listed on the power supply somewhere. Charles FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a >NAS device affordable. > >Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and >so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. > >Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that >is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has >a power connector mounted on it? > > > >Thanks in advance.. > >FIRESTORM_v1 >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL Wed Aug 3 09:37:57 2005 From: Walt.DuBose at RANDOLPH.AF.MIL (DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA) Date: Wed Aug 3 08:13:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Well darnit... Message-ID: <1CBE59FBA02D8940B2EC4230CAE72E4BD89081@fstymx45.randolph.aetc.ds.af.mil> Find a replacement power supply with +5 VDC at 1 amp, -5 VDC at 1 amp, +12 VDC at 1 amp, -12 VDC at 1 amp and +5vsb at 1 amp and whip out your soldering iron and hook up the wires to the ND520...you may need to find out what the other color of wires are and NetGear has a help line that may be able to tell you. The Warranty on the unit is 3 years but only 1 year on the power supply. Walt -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of FIRESTORM_v1 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:07 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Well darnit... that's the oddball thing It's a +5+12,-5,-12,+5VSB voltages just like a standard ATX power supply, except it's in a non-standard header. This isn't the kind of thing RS would have, (assuming they know what a power supply is anymore.. ) I have the followingf wires coming off the mainboard to the PSU: Red (+5v) Black (Gnd) Yellow(+12v) Blue (???) Brown(???) Orange(???) Any Ideas? FIRESTORM_v1 On 8/2/05, Charles D Hogan wrote: > If you know the output voltage, pin polarity, plug size, and minumum > power requirements, you should be able to pick up something that will > suit your needs at Radio Shack. All the above, except the plug size, > are generally listed on the power supply somewhere. > > Charles > > FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > > >I just blew the power supply on an ND520 netgear's attempt at making a > >NAS device affordable. > > > >Anyways, the power supply manufacturer is probably out of business and > >so therefore I'm up sh@t creek. > > > >Does anyone know where I can find a 110V switching power supply that > >is approx. 2 3/4 inches wide, 7 inches deep, 1 3/4 inches tall and has > >a power connector mounted on it? > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance.. > > > >FIRESTORM_v1 > >_______________________________________________ > >SATLUG mailing list > >SATLUG@satlug.org > >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From jeremymann at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 10:56:41 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Wed Aug 3 09:32:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] rsync error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79ec289f050803075615928051@mail.gmail.com> Does it also say "partial transfer"? On 8/2/05, RS wrote: > Does anyone know what code 23 could mean? I haven't been able to get my > linux running again after hd crash (wife has too big of to-do list) and at > the office we use CygWin (linux-like command-line for windows) to rsync > folders/files. About a week ago, this rsync script started saying rsync > failed (code 23) and the guys that set this up say we are the first to have > this problem (yeah, right). Any ideas what this could mean? > > advTHanKSce > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From jr7958 at sbc.com Wed Aug 3 14:14:56 2005 From: jr7958 at sbc.com (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) Date: Wed Aug 3 12:50:41 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> I've been out of the linux for a couple of years. I just built myself a new machine and I have tried installing numerous distributions and they all seem to lock up after the install. I'm not sure but I'm thinking that my video card and or monitor might be causing the problems. I have a Chaintech Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express video card and a Dell 2005FPW monitor. My machine also has an AMD 64 bit processor. I've tried the latest version of SUSE and it loaded fine but whenever I tried to scroll in any program it would take about 30 seconds for it to scroll. I tried to update the video driver but the installation kept failing and saying that I didn't have the source code for my kernel. Next I tried Mandrake 10.2. Again it installed fine but when it goes to the graphical logon screen is freezes. Next I tried Fedora Core 4. The graphical install program just goes to a white screen and freezes. I did a text install that appeared to work. When I rebooted my machine after the install the bootloader was corrupt and just threw a bunch of 9s out to my screen and then locked up. Does anybody have any ideas? I'm not real picky about distributions other than I like KDE and tend to do a lot of mutilimedia and web browsing. JR From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 14:24:57 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Aug 3 13:00:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine In-Reply-To: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <869de84705080311244f1cf62a@mail.gmail.com> I think you might need to install the latest Nvidia driver first. I know that with the default mv driver, my card would lock up. Try booting in text mode and see if it lcks up there too just to rule a possible OS issue. FIRESTORM_v1 On 8/3/05, REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI) wrote: > I've been out of the linux for a couple of years. I just built myself a > new machine and I have tried installing numerous distributions and they > all seem to lock up after the install. I'm not sure but I'm thinking > that my video card and or monitor might be causing the problems. I have > a Chaintech Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express video card and a Dell > 2005FPW monitor. My machine also has an AMD 64 bit processor. > > I've tried the latest version of SUSE and it loaded fine but whenever I > tried to scroll in any program it would take about 30 seconds for it to > scroll. I tried to update the video driver but the installation kept > failing and saying that I didn't have the source code for my kernel. > > Next I tried Mandrake 10.2. Again it installed fine but when it goes to > the graphical logon screen is freezes. > > Next I tried Fedora Core 4. The graphical install program just goes to > a white screen and freezes. I did a text install that appeared to work. > When I rebooted my machine after the install the bootloader was corrupt > and just threw a bunch of 9s out to my screen and then locked up. > > Does anybody have any ideas? I'm not real picky about distributions > other than I like KDE and tend to do a lot of mutilimedia and web > browsing. > > JR > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From jr7958 at sbc.com Wed Aug 3 14:40:53 2005 From: jr7958 at sbc.com (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) Date: Wed Aug 3 13:16:50 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E7@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Is there a way to update the driver before doing the install or during the install? I also can't figure out why FC4 can't install the bootloader, it just corrupted my MBR. I installed it several times and it did the same thing each time. It would boot and a bunch of 9s appeared on the screen and that was it. Is anybody else running an AMD64 system with a similar video card? >-----Original Message----- >From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of FIRESTORM_v1 >Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:25 PM >To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine > > >I think you might need to install the latest Nvidia driver first. I >know that with the default mv driver, my card would lock up. > >Try booting in text mode and see if it lcks up there too just to rule >a possible OS issue. > From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 15:07:06 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Aug 3 13:42:47 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine In-Reply-To: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E7@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E7@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <869de84705080312075e5e22a9@mail.gmail.com> If you do the install, just before it resets your PC, go to an alternate terminal window (on redhat it's Ctrl-Alt-F2) and you have access to the system post-install. And of course, I read this and find that you are dealing with an AMD-64. I would think the installation would be the same however. Good luck with that. FIRESTORM_v1 On 8/3/05, REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI) wrote: > Is there a way to update the driver before doing the install or during > the install? I also can't figure out why FC4 can't install the > bootloader, it just corrupted my MBR. I installed it several times and > it did the same thing each time. It would boot and a bunch of 9s > appeared on the screen and that was it. > > Is anybody else running an AMD64 system with a similar video card? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf Of FIRESTORM_v1 > >Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:25 PM > >To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine > > > > > >I think you might need to install the latest Nvidia driver first. I > >know that with the default mv driver, my card would lock up. > > > >Try booting in text mode and see if it lcks up there too just to rule > >a possible OS issue. > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Wed Aug 3 15:34:26 2005 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (steve kolars) Date: Wed Aug 3 14:09:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine In-Reply-To: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <42F11C42.9020609@cis.sac.accd.edu> REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI) wrote: >I've been out of the linux for a couple of years. I just built myself a >new machine and I have tried installing numerous distributions and they >all seem to lock up after the install. I'm not sure but I'm thinking >that my video card and or monitor might be causing the problems. I have >a Chaintech Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express video card and a Dell >2005FPW monitor. My machine also has an AMD 64 bit processor. > >I've tried the latest version of SUSE and it loaded fine but whenever I >tried to scroll in any program it would take about 30 seconds for it to >scroll. I tried to update the video driver but the installation kept >failing and saying that I didn't have the source code for my kernel. > >Next I tried Mandrake 10.2. Again it installed fine but when it goes to >the graphical logon screen is freezes. > >Next I tried Fedora Core 4. The graphical install program just goes to >a white screen and freezes. I did a text install that appeared to work. >When I rebooted my machine after the install the bootloader was corrupt >and just threw a bunch of 9s out to my screen and then locked up. > >Does anybody have any ideas? I'm not real picky about distributions >other than I like KDE and tend to do a lot of mutilimedia and web >browsing. > >JR >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > The AMD-64 is not the problem. You do have a couple of different issues to deal with--trying different distros is not the solution. Statement: I've tried the latest version of SuSE and it loaded fine but whenever I tried to scroll in any program it would take about 30 seconds for it to scroll. Do: Try turning off the HAL daemon. If that does not fix the problem there are other steps to take. Statement: I tried to update the video driver but the installation kept failing and saying that I didn't have the source code for my kernel. Do: Load the source. Suggestion: On a Linux system you should log in with run level 3, and startx when you want to use X. If you just have to have a graphical log in, change the system to run level 5 after the system is fully configured. Never use run level 5 until your system is fully stable. Steve From edcoates at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 23:01:28 2005 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Wed Aug 3 21:37:08 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial Console Message-ID: <8ee65edd050803200131ad7010@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone successfully set up the linux console to be displayed on a serial port? I've poured through the howtos and I'm close. I can see the start of the boot messages, but when it gets to adding the swap space, I don't get anything else on the conolse till the login appears. Any pointers? Ed From chuck at tetlow.net Wed Aug 3 23:54:42 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Wed Aug 3 22:30:40 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine In-Reply-To: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E6@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <1123127683.1198.71.camel@laptop> Hi Jeremy, I know this may sound a little basic, but its a good point for someone else -- even if its not your problem. On the installations you've tried -- are you sure the distribution is the correct one for the AMD 64-bit chip? For example, the FedoreCore4 ISOs I have are for an Intel chip and are named FC4-i386-disc1.iso through FC4-i386-disc4.iso. I just looked up the FedoreCore4 image names for the AMD 64-bit chip and they are named: FC4-x86_64-disc1.iso through FC4-x86_63-disc5.iso. And the webpage states they are for use with the "64-bit AMD64, EM64T". I once helped a friend that was trying to use a generic Intel copy of Redhat x on an AMD machine. It gave somewhat similar results to what you've described. And I just thought that it might be worth mentioning for the new people that most distributions come in flavors. For example, the RedHat site shows three flavors for FedoraCore4 -- one for Intel chips, one for AMD64 chips, and one for PowerPC (Mac 64-bit) machines. And ya gotta have the right one to have any chance of working successfully. The Novel/SuSE website shows that the new Novel Linux Desktop 9 comes in two flavors -- x86 or EM64T. So again, you have to have the right version to work correctly. And the one website I could find with Mandriva RPMs shows both Mandriva2005 and Mandriva2005_64bit RPMs. Shows they've got both flavors too. Anyway, I'll shut up finally. But just check to be sure you've got the right versions for your hardware. Chuck On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 13:14, REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI) wrote: I've been out of the linux for a couple of years. I just built myself a new machine and I have tried installing numerous distributions and they all seem to lock up after the install. I'm not sure but I'm thinking that my video card and or monitor might be causing the problems. I have a Chaintech Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express video card and a Dell 2005FPW monitor. My machine also has an AMD 64 bit processor. I've tried the latest version of SUSE and it loaded fine but whenever I tried to scroll in any program it would take about 30 seconds for it to scroll. I tried to update the video driver but the installation kept failing and saying that I didn't have the source code for my kernel. Next I tried Mandrake 10.2. Again it installed fine but when it goes to the graphical logon screen is freezes. Next I tried Fedora Core 4. The graphical install program just goes to a white screen and freezes. I did a text install that appeared to work. When I rebooted my machine after the install the bootloader was corrupt and just threw a bunch of 9s out to my screen and then locked up. Does anybody have any ideas? I'm not real picky about distributions other than I like KDE and tend to do a lot of mutilimedia and web browsing. JR _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From dave at coverstreet.com Thu Aug 4 01:00:43 2005 From: dave at coverstreet.com (Dave) Date: Wed Aug 3 22:36:19 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine In-Reply-To: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E7@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4E7@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <1123128043.8576.8.camel@aku> On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 13:40 -0500, REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI) wrote: > Is there a way to update the driver before doing the install or during > the install? I also can't figure out why FC4 can't install the > bootloader, it just corrupted my MBR. I installed it several times and > it did the same thing each time. It would boot and a bunch of 9s > appeared on the screen and that was it. > > Is anybody else running an AMD64 system with a similar video card? I just built an AMD64 machine with a GeForce6800GT PCI-E card and so far anyway I haven't noticed any problems like you're having. I had a hard time getting a distro to load happily with my AMD64 and only SATA drives and I finally settled on Ubuntu. It's Debian based and they've even got an AMD64 install image as well as an AMD64 live CD. It loaded up without a hitch and I haven't even gotten around to loading the drivers from nVidia yet because I haven't had a need. You might want to give their live CD a try and see if that does it for you, and if it does, you can just load up their AMD64 install CD and you'll be all set. Oh, and their site, 'cause that might help: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ HTH, -Dave From solinym at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 02:01:44 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Thu Aug 4 00:37:25 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial Console In-Reply-To: <8ee65edd050803200131ad7010@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ee65edd050803200131ad7010@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/3/05, Ed Coates wrote: > Has anyone successfully set up the linux console to be displayed on a > serial port? > > I've poured through the howtos and I'm close. I can see the start of > the boot messages, but when it gets to adding the swap space, I don't > get anything else on the conolse till the login appears. > > Any pointers? I'm going to guess that you've got grub and the kernel writing to the serial console properly. Adding swap and the subsequent stuff is written by userland programs to stdout which may be connected to /dev/console, which isn't the serial terminal or something. I'm not sure exactly how to get it to print to the serial console, but you may have to put something in /etc/inittab or /etc/rc to get it redirected to /dev/ttyS0 or whatever. -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From jr7958 at sbc.com Thu Aug 4 09:43:36 2005 From: jr7958 at sbc.com (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) Date: Thu Aug 4 08:19:18 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Getting frustrated with my new machine Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4EC@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> I took some of the advice from here last night and was able to get mandriva to work after installing the latest nvidia drivers and changing the video driver to "nvidia" in the xorg.conf file along with some other minor changes. During this process I realized that the version of mandriva that I have is not 64 bit :-( I'm thinking that I might actually go with SUSE since I know that the disc I have is a 64 bit version and I used to run SUSE and liked it very much for my needs. For some reason I don't remember seeing a 64 bit version of mandriva. Now that I know how to change the runlevels and how to update the drivers, it should be fairly easy to do. Cheers, JR From Jason.George at Valero.com Thu Aug 4 10:28:09 2005 From: Jason.George at Valero.com (George, Jason) Date: Thu Aug 4 09:04:03 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Unix Support Position @ Valero Message-ID: <3B414716F5F1274A89A19637DE17EF92F08E12@mssahq06.corp.valero.com> Fellow SATLUG Members- Our Unix team @ Valero Energy has an open position. Below are the details. From what I've been told, they're not looking for a full blown unix admin (position is entry-level), but someone who supports the software (HP ITO, Node Manager) and Control-M (job scheduling software). Please pass along to anyone who might be interested. Valero is mostly an HPUX shop with some AIX boxes. I won't discourage anyone from throwing my name on the referral part of the application ;-) -JG Associate I/S Analyst Job ID: 5738-14182 Division: Information Services Location: San Antonio, TX Job Type: Full Time Job Level: Entry Level Education: Bachelors Degree Category: Information Systems: Software Position Summary Provides on-site support of computing equipment and software, to include needs analysis, configuration, installation, moves, and changes for all supported locations. Performs configuration and management of HP OpenView Operations and Network Node Manager software. Perform management, installation, and support of Job Scheduling software. Performs UNIX administration tasks. Performs research and repair activity, including vendor coordination, necessary to insure computer service for all supported locations. Assists in identification, isolation, and repair of equipment and software affecting computer service to all supported locations. Tests applications and equipment. Requirements Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related field preferred. Minimum one year experience in direct computing support activities including thorough knowledge of equipment, application software, networking, and operating system software required. UNIX experience preferred. Server and/or network monitoring software experience preferred. Must be service oriented. Excellent verbal and written communication skills to interact with internal and external contacts required. A positive service attitude is essential to successful performance of this job. Accountabilities are accomplished under direct direction. Must be able to exercise good judgment. Thorough technical knowledge of computing equipment, application software, networking, and operating system software required. Expected to maintain good relationships with Valero employees and vendor personnel. Must be able to provide after-hours or 24/7 support on a rotating basis or as-needed. Must be able to travel on an as needed basis. CANDIDATES WITH GREATER QUALIFICATIONS MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR A HIGHER LEVEL POSITION. http://valero.hrdpt.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=1349695 From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Thu Aug 4 08:37:19 2005 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Thu Aug 4 09:12:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Unix Support Position @ Valero In-Reply-To: <3B414716F5F1274A89A19637DE17EF92F08E12@mssahq06.corp.valero.com> Message-ID: <20050804143719.68795.qmail@web54305.mail.yahoo.com> thats very cool. My brother works at Valero..sounds like a great place to work at. -Alex --- "George, Jason" wrote: > Fellow SATLUG Members- > > Our Unix team @ Valero Energy has an open position. > Below are the > details. From what I've been told, they're not > looking for a full blown > unix admin (position is entry-level), but someone > who supports the > software (HP ITO, Node Manager) and Control-M (job > scheduling software). > Please pass along to anyone who might be interested. > Valero is mostly > an HPUX shop with some AIX boxes. > > I won't discourage anyone from throwing my name on > the referral part of > the application ;-) -JG > > Associate I/S Analyst > Job ID: 5738-14182 > > Division: Information Services > Location: San Antonio, TX > Job Type: Full Time > Job Level: Entry Level > Education: Bachelors Degree > Category: Information Systems: Software > > Position Summary > Provides on-site support of computing equipment and > software, to include > needs analysis, configuration, installation, moves, > and changes for all > supported locations. Performs configuration and > management of HP > OpenView Operations and Network Node Manager > software. Perform > management, installation, and support of Job > Scheduling software. > Performs UNIX administration tasks. Performs > research and repair > activity, including vendor coordination, necessary > to insure computer > service for all supported locations. Assists in > identification, > isolation, and repair of equipment and software > affecting computer > service to all supported locations. Tests > applications and equipment. > > Requirements > Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related > field preferred. > Minimum one year experience in direct computing > support activities > including thorough knowledge of equipment, > application software, > networking, and operating system software required. > UNIX experience > preferred. Server and/or network monitoring software > experience > preferred. Must be service oriented. Excellent > verbal and written > communication skills to interact with internal and > external contacts > required. A positive service attitude is essential > to successful > performance of this job. Accountabilities are > accomplished under direct > direction. Must be able to exercise good judgment. > Thorough technical > knowledge of computing equipment, application > software, networking, and > operating system software required. Expected to > maintain good > relationships with Valero employees and vendor > personnel. Must be able > to provide after-hours or 24/7 support on a rotating > basis or as-needed. > Must be able to travel on an as needed basis. > > CANDIDATES WITH GREATER QUALIFICATIONS MAY BE > CONSIDERED FOR A HIGHER > LEVEL POSITION. > http://valero.hrdpt.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=1349695 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From solinym at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 11:18:19 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Thu Aug 4 09:53:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] swapping 2 HDDs = problems Message-ID: Hey I wanted to shift my / off to another, smaller drive, and reformat the big one as /video. I was never able to add the ext_attr file system option --- tune2fs just wouldn't recognize it. So I swapped the disk positions (little one now hda, big one hdc), and reinstalled FC3 -- just enough to get it running. Now I plan to copy the data from the big drive to the small one using star, which is how selinux recommends you preserve selinux contexts (and hopefully all other metadata too). But, when I boot up with the big drive on the secondary controller, it complains about trying to read past the end of the drive. I think I have LVM enabled, and so maybe something in LVM is referencing the big drive as /dev/hda instead of /dev/hdc as it is now. It hangs the boot process very early. Anyone got an idea how I can fix this? I can't even get to a login prompt with that drive powered on, so how am I supposed to fix it? TIA -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Thu Aug 4 12:09:58 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Thu Aug 4 10:57:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] swapping 2 HDDs = problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50751.143.166.226.19.1123171798.squirrel@www.camerontech.com> I don't have an answer, but I saw something along the same lines several months ago while studying for the RHCE exam. I had a disk with logical volumes on it. I was done with what I was doing so I blasted the partition table by doing: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1 After I installed a new Linux version, my old logical volumes were still seen, but I couldn't do anything to them! I don't remember the specifics, but I wound up having to define new logical volumes with the same names, then remove them the "right way" instead of just nuking the partition table. That suggests to me that the logical volume info is stored on some reserved area of the disk kind of like the partition table is. Thomas From cjs226 at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 16:05:52 2005 From: cjs226 at gmail.com (Clif Smith) Date: Thu Aug 4 14:41:26 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Any recommendations for a gigabit NIC? Message-ID: <1ea252fb0508041305383ccc69@mail.gmail.com> I bought a Linksys EG1032 before realizing I'd have to deal with a kernel module for it. Can someone recommend a gigabit NIC that'll work "out of the box"? From jeremymann at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 16:22:13 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Thu Aug 4 14:57:52 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Any recommendations for a gigabit NIC? In-Reply-To: <1ea252fb0508041305383ccc69@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea252fb0508041305383ccc69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f050804132249e07bad@mail.gmail.com> We use 3 kinds, Intel Pro 1000, Dlink DGE-550T, and a Broadcom something (tg3 driver). All work out of the box with a stock kernel. On 8/4/05, Clif Smith wrote: > I bought a Linksys EG1032 before realizing I'd have to deal with a kernel > module for it. Can someone recommend a gigabit NIC that'll work "out of the > box"? > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From pandemic at syn-recon.net Thu Aug 4 17:59:46 2005 From: pandemic at syn-recon.net (pandemic@syn-recon.net) Date: Thu Aug 4 16:35:27 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Any recommendations for a gigabit NIC? In-Reply-To: <79ec289f050804132249e07bad@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea252fb0508041305383ccc69@mail.gmail.com> <79ec289f050804132249e07bad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42F28FD2.9070800@syn-recon.net> Jeremy Mann wrote: > We use 3 kinds, Intel Pro 1000, Dlink DGE-550T, and a Broadcom > something (tg3 driver). All work out of the box with a stock kernel. > > > On 8/4/05, Clif Smith wrote: > >>I bought a Linksys EG1032 before realizing I'd have to deal with a kernel >>module for it. Can someone recommend a gigabit NIC that'll work "out of the >>box"? >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> > > > Im partial to 3com's gig e cards , just stay away from their super high end cards. Florian From kingttx at hotmail.com Thu Aug 4 20:38:10 2005 From: kingttx at hotmail.com (Thomas King) Date: Thu Aug 4 19:14:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] MySQL Cluster and OpenMosix Message-ID: I finally got the green light to set up a cluster at work, a small one, but I want to get some pre-task advice if I may. I don't know the exact specs on the computers, but they are normal Dell towers with IDE. I think most of them have 512 MB, and I'll be using 4. The cluster will be using MySQL Cluster off of the -max package, and I'll most likely use FC4 unless someone has a suggestion otherwise (CentOS?). I am setting up the cluster similar to MySQL's example: 2 data nodes, 1 management node, and one mysqld. I also plan on adding Open Mosix to all 4 to help with the processing. To one of the computers I am going to add two more IDE hard drives, 120GB each, and set up a mirror RAID for a SAMBA file service. True, I should use SATA or SCSI, but this won't really be high-availability - it will service a single department of about two dozen folks for now. Our main file server is running out of space. In addition, I'll be putting a Jabber server for communication inside the office, the config I already have set up on a test computer. I don't think they'll allow me to have a switch between all four computers, so they'll be hooked directly into the Cisco switches for our V-LAN, Fast Ethernet. After setting everything up and physically securing the cluster, I want to run the Bastille scripts to harden the setup. Once it has all been set up, I need to migrate the data from the Microsoft Access db to MySQL. Any decent way of doing this? Thanks in advance, Tom King From mark at mccoyfam.net Thu Aug 4 23:32:40 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark D. McCoy) Date: Thu Aug 4 22:07:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! Message-ID: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns out!! From richhsuberg at stic.net Fri Aug 5 00:17:21 2005 From: richhsuberg at stic.net (RS) Date: Thu Aug 4 22:55:31 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] rsync error In-Reply-To: <79ec289f050803075615928051@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Not at the machine right now, but I think it says (almost exactly): some files could not be transferred (code 23) I just set up the program on another laptop, and so far no problems. I will keep an eye on it to see if it breaks, and if it does, what happened when it did. -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of Jeremy Mann Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:57 AM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] rsync error Does it also say "partial transfer"? On 8/2/05, RS wrote: > Does anyone know what code 23 could mean? I haven't been able to get my > linux running again after hd crash (wife has too big of to-do list) and at > the office we use CygWin (linux-like command-line for windows) to rsync > folders/files. About a week ago, this rsync script started saying rsync > failed (code 23) and the guys that set this up say we are the first to have > this problem (yeah, right). Any ideas what this could mean? > > advTHanKSce > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From paulmacejewski at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 01:51:48 2005 From: paulmacejewski at gmail.com (Paul Macejewski) Date: Fri Aug 5 00:27:26 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues Message-ID: <42f2fe74.3d7a7d54.3af9.ffffd24b@mx.gmail.com> Hi, I am having a problem with the Fedora Core 4 install. I have FC on DVD and after I choose packages anaconda seems to die as it is checking dependencies. I did the media check and the disc passed. Does anyone have an idea as to what is going wrong? Thanks. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com From chuck at tetlow.net Fri Aug 5 02:14:57 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Fri Aug 5 00:50:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues In-Reply-To: <42f2fe74.3d7a7d54.3af9.ffffd24b@mx.gmail.com> References: <42f2fe74.3d7a7d54.3af9.ffffd24b@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1123222498.1311.4.camel@laptop> Paul, How long did you wait??? If you're doing an installation that is ANYTHING other than a "Everything" installation -- checking the dependencies can take a while. Especially if you're on a somewhat older system. I was loading a Celeron 400 a couple weeks ago and I was sure the system had locked on me during that check. Hard booted and went thru the whole thing again and had the same results. I waited a while and just as I was about to hit the button again, a call came in. While I sat here for half an hour talking to a friend -- it finished up and started installing. Man, I was red-faced! But that was all it was -- dependencies checks. I had deselected a lot and selected a bunch of smaller things to add in. It just took that older processor a while to go thru all the checks before it was sure that package group was good -- and it could start loading. Try it again, and take a coffee break when it hits that point (or ice tea break, or bathroom break -- anything that will keep you away for a while). Chuck On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 00:51, Paul Macejewski wrote: Hi, I am having a problem with the Fedora Core 4 install. I have FC on DVD and after I choose packages anaconda seems to die as it is checking dependencies. I did the media check and the disc passed. Does anyone have an idea as to what is going wrong? Thanks. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From paulmacejewski at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 02:48:35 2005 From: paulmacejewski at gmail.com (Paul Macejewski) Date: Fri Aug 5 01:24:15 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues In-Reply-To: <1123222498.1311.4.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <42f30bc5.758bd415.7432.4f14@mx.gmail.com> Nope after a long wait the installer will terminate itself and unmount the virtual partitions leaving me with a single line telling me that its ok to restart the computer. However now that you say it I will try an everything install. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:15 AM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues Paul, How long did you wait??? If you're doing an installation that is ANYTHING other than a "Everything" installation -- checking the dependencies can take a while. Especially if you're on a somewhat older system. I was loading a Celeron 400 a couple weeks ago and I was sure the system had locked on me during that check. Hard booted and went thru the whole thing again and had the same results. I waited a while and just as I was about to hit the button again, a call came in. While I sat here for half an hour talking to a friend -- it finished up and started installing. Man, I was red-faced! But that was all it was -- dependencies checks. I had deselected a lot and selected a bunch of smaller things to add in. It just took that older processor a while to go thru all the checks before it was sure that package group was good -- and it could start loading. Try it again, and take a coffee break when it hits that point (or ice tea break, or bathroom break -- anything that will keep you away for a while). Chuck On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 00:51, Paul Macejewski wrote: Hi, I am having a problem with the Fedora Core 4 install. I have FC on DVD and after I choose packages anaconda seems to die as it is checking dependencies. I did the media check and the disc passed. Does anyone have an idea as to what is going wrong? Thanks. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From sbender at humana.com Fri Aug 5 05:00:38 2005 From: sbender at humana.com (Shawn Bender) Date: Fri Aug 5 02:36:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Shawn Bender is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Thu 08/04/2005 and will not return until Wed 08/10/2005. I will respond to your message when I return. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. From paulmacejewski at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 04:07:24 2005 From: paulmacejewski at gmail.com (Paul Macejewski) Date: Fri Aug 5 02:43:04 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues In-Reply-To: <1123222498.1311.4.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <42f31e3d.3c4da05b.20a7.0f6a@mx.gmail.com> OK, after the everything instillation and a good number of Styx songs had played, FC4 installed. Thanks. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com ------------ -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:15 AM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Fedora Core 4 install issues Paul, How long did you wait??? If you're doing an installation that is ANYTHING other than a "Everything" installation -- checking the dependencies can take a while. Especially if you're on a somewhat older system. I was loading a Celeron 400 a couple weeks ago and I was sure the system had locked on me during that check. Hard booted and went thru the whole thing again and had the same results. I waited a while and just as I was about to hit the button again, a call came in. While I sat here for half an hour talking to a friend -- it finished up and started installing. Man, I was red-faced! But that was all it was -- dependencies checks. I had deselected a lot and selected a bunch of smaller things to add in. It just took that older processor a while to go thru all the checks before it was sure that package group was good -- and it could start loading. Try it again, and take a coffee break when it hits that point (or ice tea break, or bathroom break -- anything that will keep you away for a while). Chuck On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 00:51, Paul Macejewski wrote: Hi, I am having a problem with the Fedora Core 4 install. I have FC on DVD and after I choose packages anaconda seems to die as it is checking dependencies. I did the media check and the disc passed. Does anyone have an idea as to what is going wrong? Thanks. Paul Macejewski paulmacejewski@gmail.com _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From jr7958 at sbc.com Fri Aug 5 09:55:03 2005 From: jr7958 at sbc.com (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) Date: Fri Aug 5 08:30:49 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E4F1@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> Good luck on the exam. Once you pass it we can count on you as our resident red hat expert, right? ;-) >-----Original Message----- >From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Mark D. McCoy >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:33 PM >To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List >Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! > > >I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns out!! > >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From cjs226 at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 12:26:24 2005 From: cjs226 at gmail.com (Clif Smith) Date: Fri Aug 5 11:01:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Cluster File System? Message-ID: <1ea252fb050805092635a795d0@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have any experience sharing a file system with numerous systems via fibre channel? If so, with what product and with what results? From J at JVPappas.net Fri Aug 5 13:09:21 2005 From: J at JVPappas.net (John Pappas) Date: Fri Aug 5 11:44:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Cluster File System? In-Reply-To: <1ea252fb050805092635a795d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea252fb050805092635a795d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1123261761.17307.13.camel@spook.jvpappas.net> We set up a 2 node Win2K cluster to attempt this same thing. We used Kayo from SanBolic (since discontinued in favor of an actual shared fs called Melio FS) to share the NTFS volume. It worked fine, but the initial setup was tricky (I suspect this is the case with most shared FS), as each box had to be loaded WITHOUT connectivity to the SAN. Once the software was loaded, the FC was plugged back in and all was cooking. This type of solution is basically a lock control layer placed on top of NTFS. A true "shared file system" handles locking internally. Before I left my last position, we were looking into CXFS from SGI and GFS from RedHat, but I did not have the opportunity to play with either personally. As an aside, Some research that I did indicated that both of these have scalability issues, as the control is coordinated serially and atomically through one server process, so performance is 'artificially' limited at high I/O rates. Let me know what you find out! John On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 11:26 -0500, Clif Smith wrote: > Does anyone have any experience sharing a file system with numerous systems > via fibre channel? If so, with what product and with what results? > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From satx2003 at earthlink.net Fri Aug 5 15:23:02 2005 From: satx2003 at earthlink.net (satx2003@earthlink.net) Date: Fri Aug 5 13:57:16 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Message Error Message-ID: <200508051857.j75Iv5F11285@alamo.satlug.org> Encrypted message is available. From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Sat Aug 6 23:13:59 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (tweeks) Date: Sat Aug 6 21:49:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Cluster File System? In-Reply-To: <1ea252fb050805092635a795d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea252fb050805092635a795d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200508062214.00020.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Friday 05 August 2005 11:26, Clif Smith wrote: > Does anyone have any experience sharing a file system with numerous systems > via fibre channel? If so, with what product and with what results? I've used an NFS/Gb based VIP failover on a NAS setup on Red Hat Enterprise.. but it wasn't truly a cluster filesystem.. Just a NAS with two filesystems, a hearbeat and a quorum filesystem for shared tracking. The way to go now (on Linux at least) is GFS (Global FileSystem): http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/gfs_nfs/ http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ http://gfs.wikidev.net/Main_Page Download it, check it out: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/ Let me know if you play with it or not.. I've been meaning to.. but haven't had the time (or project that needed it). Tweeks From geoffw5omr at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 02:07:15 2005 From: geoffw5omr at gmail.com (Geoff) Date: Sun Aug 7 00:42:52 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: On 8/4/05, Mark D. McCoy wrote: > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns out!! How'd it turn out, Mark? -- Regards, -Geoff Oscar loves trash, but hates spam. Get the Lead out to reply. From solinym at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 11:28:33 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Sun Aug 7 10:04:10 2005 Subject: selinux woes, was Re: [SATLUG] swapping 2 HDDs = problems In-Reply-To: <42F23327.4070909@w5omr.shacknet.nu> References: <42F23327.4070909@w5omr.shacknet.nu> Message-ID: Status report follows. > >But, when I boot up with the big drive on the secondary controller, it > >complains about trying to read past the end of the drive. I think I > >have LVM enabled, and so maybe something in LVM is referencing the big > >drive as /dev/hda instead of /dev/hdc as it is now. That is exactly what happens. LVM stores the device name in the logical extents. If you have an editor capable of editing a device file, you can change it directly. I ended up masking the extra partitions by changing their system ID to AIX. > offhand, I'd say burn an iso of a live cd (which ever distro has one - I > have Whax, here - works good) > then mount the drives and do what you need, rebuild lilo/grub, pull the > cd out, and boot the machine again. I tried this. First I tried using "star" to copy the files plus selinux attributes off the old drive. I had to play around with shared libraries and it just coredumped all the time. Next I copied the files over using dump/restore, but they lacked selinux contexts (the bootable distros I tried don't have selinux enabled -- gee I wonder why). I am paranoid and wanted to run selinux on this box, just to gain familiarity with it. Boy did I ever! Basically with selinux enabled, even in permissive (non-enforcing) mode, I couldn't write to any file. You see, / had no security contexts, and therefore I had no permission to do anything under it. I tried *everything*. With selinux disabled, you cannot edit security contexts. Catch-22. So basically I had to boot up off the old drive, mount new / as /mnt, and "chroot /mnt fixfiles relabel" to relabel everything on the new drive's /. Couple this with problems associated with two drives having the same labels, and it made for many hours of effort with no discernable results. I highly recommend it to someone who doesn't want to accomplish anything and has 6 hours to kill. -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From karl at oelschlaeger.ws Sun Aug 7 13:01:12 2005 From: karl at oelschlaeger.ws (Karl Oelschlaeger) Date: Sun Aug 7 11:36:30 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Intergraph/Sun Hardware up for grabs Message-ID: <1123434072.20799.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, I have an older Intergraph Unix graphics workstation that needs a good home. I'm not exactly sure what architecture it is, but there is some sun hardware in it (i.e. the graphics card.) It comes complete with it's own 19' monitor, two external SCSI cd-rom drives, external SCSI tape drive, tons of cables and manuals. Here's the hitch. It's in central Louisiana. If anyone wants it, I can arrange for pick-up or shipping it. I just really would hate to put this on the curb or take it to goodwill. Thanks, Karl Oelschlaeger From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 11:45:50 2005 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Sun Aug 7 12:21:24 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Intergraph/Sun Hardware up for grabs In-Reply-To: <1123434072.20799.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050807174550.10740.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> I'd love to take it..shipping would be expensive... --- Karl Oelschlaeger wrote: > Hi all, > I have an older Intergraph Unix graphics workstation > that needs a good > home. I'm not exactly sure what architecture it is, > but there is some > sun hardware in it (i.e. the graphics card.) It > comes complete with it's > own 19' monitor, two external SCSI cd-rom drives, > external SCSI tape > drive, tons of cables and manuals. > > Here's the hitch. It's in central Louisiana. If > anyone wants it, I can > arrange for pick-up or shipping it. I just really > would hate to put this > on the curb or take it to goodwill. > > Thanks, > Karl Oelschlaeger > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Sun Aug 7 14:07:42 2005 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Sun Aug 7 12:43:21 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Intergraph/Sun Hardware up for grabs In-Reply-To: <20050807174550.10740.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050807174550.10740.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42F64DEE.1060702@satx.rr.com> Especially with that 19 foot monitor...;^) Alex Bartonek wrote: >I'd love to take it..shipping would be expensive... > >--- Karl Oelschlaeger wrote: > > > >>Hi all, >>I have an older Intergraph Unix graphics workstation >>that needs a good >>home. I'm not exactly sure what architecture it is, >>but there is some >>sun hardware in it (i.e. the graphics card.) It >>comes complete with it's >>own 19' monitor, two external SCSI cd-rom drives, >>external SCSI tape >>drive, tons of cables and manuals. >> >>Here's the hitch. It's in central Louisiana. If >>anyone wants it, I can >>arrange for pick-up or shipping it. I just really >>would hate to put this >>on the curb or take it to goodwill. >> >>Thanks, >>Karl Oelschlaeger >> >> >> From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 12:14:37 2005 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Sun Aug 7 12:50:11 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Intergraph/Sun Hardware up for grabs In-Reply-To: <42F64DEE.1060702@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <20050807181437.89308.qmail@web54301.mail.yahoo.com> LOL. I didnt notice that. --- Mitch Thompson wrote: > Especially with that 19 foot monitor...;^) ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mark at mccoyfam.net Sun Aug 7 21:43:08 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark Dwayne McCoy) Date: Sun Aug 7 20:18:52 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> Geoff wrote: >On 8/4/05, Mark D. McCoy wrote: > > >>I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns out!! >> >> > > >How'd it turn out, Mark? > > > Can't talk specifics, because of the NDA you have to sign before you take the test. I'm still waiting on the results. It takes up to three business days to get the email with my score. As far as "how do I think I did?", I am positive that I passed all of the RHCT-level tasks, and I am fairly sure that I passed enough of the RHCE-level tasks. Some of the tasks threw me for a loop, and by the time I left the exam my brain was mush. Next time I take it (hopefully in two years when I re-certify on the current version), I will have an idea of what is expected. A couple of the tasks exercised things that I wouldn't have thought of on my own, but I managed to pull them out of my @$$! BTW, the Michael Jang book really helped, but there are minor (but VERY important) differences between RHEL3 (which the book covers), RHEL4 (which the exam covers), and CentOS4 (which I used to study). I caught one of the differences the night before the exam, and I'm glad I did! I recommend that anyone wishing to take the exam use the Jang book and an actual RHEL4 CD to work with. The differences between 3 and 4 will be obvious, and you won't have many problems figuring out how to work around the differences. The exam prep guide off of the redhat web site is also very important. Print that out and test yourself on every step (even the ones you are "sure" that you know). Since I had to pay for the exam myself in order to get a nice bullet on my resume, I really hope that I passed!! From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Mon Aug 8 01:11:51 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Sun Aug 7 23:46:50 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Sunday 07 August 2005 20:43, Mark Dwayne McCoy wrote: > Can't talk specifics, because of the NDA you have to sign before you > take the test. Good answer.. ;) > BTW, the Michael Jang book really helped, but there are minor (but VERY > important) differences between RHEL3 (which the book covers), RHEL4 > (which the exam covers), and CentOS4 (which I used to study). I caught > one of the differences the night before the exam, and I'm glad I did! Should have asked.. I could have given you just about every difference betweek EL3 and EL4. I used the heck out of the Jang book and also marked every error (and there are several). Me and another trainer at Rackspace did the material training and testing of 62 of our folks at Rackspace. We had an astounding 92% pass rate!!! (including RHCTs), with 11 perfect scores (out of 62)! Really proud of our techs. They're hot stuff. > I > recommend that anyone wishing to take the exam use the Jang book and an > actual RHEL4 CD to work with. The differences between 3 and 4 will be > obvious, and you won't have many problems figuring out how to work > around the differences. And if anyone on the SATLUG or XCSSA list wants the detailed diffs between EL3 & 4 before doing any self study work using that book, let me know. > The exam prep guide off of the redhat web site > is also very important. Print that out and test yourself on every step > (even the ones you are "sure" that you know). > > Since I had to pay for the exam myself in order to get a nice bullet on > my resume, I really hope that I passed!! Ouch.. Good luck indeed.. Did you pay for the whole RH300 class.. or just the Exam? Did you take it in Austin at Microtek? (nice lunch layouts and cookies eh?)... What'd you pay.. about $6-700? (if you don't mind me asking) Tweeks From mark at mccoyfam.net Mon Aug 8 09:25:14 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark D. McCoy) Date: Mon Aug 8 07:59:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <42F75D3A.2090205@mccoyfam.net> Tom Weeks wrote: > >Ouch.. Good luck indeed.. Did you pay for the whole RH300 class.. or just the >Exam? Did you take it in Austin at Microtek? (nice lunch layouts and cookies >eh?)... What'd you pay.. about $6-700? (if you don't mind me asking) > > > I took just the exam for $749 at Microtek in Austin. From mark at mccoyfam.net Mon Aug 8 09:30:45 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark D. McCoy) Date: Mon Aug 8 08:05:23 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <42F75E85.8050604@mccoyfam.net> Tom Weeks wrote: >Ouch.. Good luck indeed.. Did you pay for the whole RH300 class.. or just the >Exam? Did you take it in Austin at Microtek? (nice lunch layouts and cookies >eh?)... What'd you pay.. about $6-700? (if you don't mind me asking) > > Microtek is a nice place, but the pizza they ordered for lunch was from a little no-name place -- it wasn't very good. Other than that, every went well. I like their classroom setup, the proctor could do just about everything for the exam from the monitoring station up front, including set up the PC's for different parts of the exam remotely. Very cool setup, and one that he told us a lot of places don't have. From eli at then7.com Mon Aug 8 09:07:45 2005 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Mon Aug 8 08:56:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <3082.208.191.193.29.1123506465.squirrel@208.191.193.29> Hey Tweeks, I'd be interested in rhel 3/4 diffs and jang errors if you have them in an easily shareable format :-) I wouldn't want you to spend any real time on it. Thanks! Eli > On Sunday 07 August 2005 20:43, Mark Dwayne McCoy wrote: > >> Can't talk specifics, because of the NDA you have to sign before you >> take the test. > > Good answer.. ;) > > >> BTW, the Michael Jang book really helped, but there are minor (but VERY >> important) differences between RHEL3 (which the book covers), RHEL4 >> (which the exam covers), and CentOS4 (which I used to study). I caught >> one of the differences the night before the exam, and I'm glad I did! > > Should have asked.. I could have given you just about every difference > betweek > EL3 and EL4. I used the heck out of the Jang book and also marked every > error (and there are several). Me and another trainer at Rackspace did > the > material training and testing of 62 of our folks at Rackspace. We had an > astounding 92% pass rate!!! (including RHCTs), with 11 perfect scores (out > of > 62)! Really proud of our techs. They're hot stuff. > > >> I >> recommend that anyone wishing to take the exam use the Jang book and an >> actual RHEL4 CD to work with. The differences between 3 and 4 will be >> obvious, and you won't have many problems figuring out how to work >> around the differences. > > And if anyone on the SATLUG or XCSSA list wants the detailed diffs between > EL3 > & 4 before doing any self study work using that book, let me know. > > >> The exam prep guide off of the redhat web site >> is also very important. Print that out and test yourself on every step >> (even the ones you are "sure" that you know). >> >> Since I had to pay for the exam myself in order to get a nice bullet on >> my resume, I really hope that I passed!! > > Ouch.. Good luck indeed.. Did you pay for the whole RH300 class.. or just > the > Exam? Did you take it in Austin at Microtek? (nice lunch layouts and > cookies > eh?)... What'd you pay.. about $6-700? (if you don't mind me asking) > > Tweeks > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From mark at mccoyfam.net Mon Aug 8 11:28:20 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark D. McCoy) Date: Mon Aug 8 10:02:59 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <3082.208.191.193.29.1123506465.squirrel@208.191.193.29> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <3082.208.191.193.29.1123506465.squirrel@208.191.193.29> Message-ID: <42F77A14.4080900@mccoyfam.net> Eli wrote: >Hey Tweeks, > >I'd be interested in rhel 3/4 diffs and jang errors if you have them in an >easily shareable format :-) > >I wouldn't want you to spend any real time on it. > >Thanks! >Eli > > > > Well, a big difference is that 4 uses mdadm for software RAID setup, and not the raidtools package (yay, no more raid config file!). Funny story: I was using an older machine while going through parts of the Jang book, and fighting with that raidtools config file. I was doing some last minute reviewing of the material on my laptop the night before the exam, using CentOS, and didn't see the raidtools packages available. After some research online, I realized that there weren't any more raidtools in RHEL4, and I learned mdadm that night! From mark at mccoyfam.net Mon Aug 8 11:30:09 2005 From: mark at mccoyfam.net (Mark D. McCoy) Date: Mon Aug 8 10:04:49 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Mark D. McCoy wrote: > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns > out!! > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 From chuck at tetlow.net Mon Aug 8 11:43:28 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Mon Aug 8 10:18:59 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <1123515810.1118.388.camel@laptop> GREAT NEWS Mark! Congratulations!!! Chuck On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:30, Mark D. McCoy wrote: Mark D. McCoy wrote: > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns > out!! > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From eli at then7.com Mon Aug 8 10:37:20 2005 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Mon Aug 8 10:26:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <3514.208.191.193.29.1123511840.squirrel@208.191.193.29> > Mark D. McCoy wrote: > >> I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns >> out!! >> > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 > _______________________________________________ Congrats! Eli From eli at then7.com Mon Aug 8 10:37:26 2005 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Mon Aug 8 10:26:42 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A14.4080900@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F6B8AC.3000101@mccoyfam.net> <200508080011.51676.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <3082.208.191.193.29.1123506465.squirrel@208.191.193.29> <42F77A14.4080900@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <3514.208.191.193.29.1123511846.squirrel@208.191.193.29> > Eli wrote: > >>Hey Tweeks, >> >>I'd be interested in rhel 3/4 diffs and jang errors if you have them in >> an >>easily shareable format :-) >> >>I wouldn't want you to spend any real time on it. >> >>Thanks! >>Eli >> >> >> >> > Well, a big difference is that 4 uses mdadm for software RAID setup, and > not the raidtools package (yay, no more raid config file!). > > Funny story: > I was using an older machine while going through parts of the Jang book, > and fighting with that raidtools config file. I was doing some last > minute reviewing of the material on my laptop the night before the exam, > using CentOS, and didn't see the raidtools packages available. After > some research online, I realized that there weren't any more raidtools > in RHEL4, and I learned mdadm that night! I use mdadm myself. Sweet! ~e From kefoster at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 13:47:32 2005 From: kefoster at gmail.com (Kevin Foster) Date: Mon Aug 8 12:23:06 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <6c649da205080810473b4835e5@mail.gmail.com> Congrats!!!!! On 8/8/05, Mark D. McCoy wrote: > > Mark D. McCoy wrote: > > > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns > > out!! > > > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From wmail at wricomp.com Mon Aug 8 13:56:25 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Mon Aug 8 12:31:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:30:09 -0500, "Mark D. McCoy" wrote: >Mark D. McCoy wrote: > >> I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns >> out!! >> >I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAALLLL!!!!!!!! *fireworks, balloons, acrobats, confetti, etc.* *chorus line of dancing rodents* *Mark gets picture on cover of Linux Gazette* *Mark buys pizza for next meeting* From wanelson at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 15:48:41 2005 From: wanelson at yahoo.com (Wayne Nelson) Date: Mon Aug 8 14:24:01 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! References: <1123515810.1118.388.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <42F7B719.000001.03804@HERC1> Congratulations!!!!! Wayne Nelson Linux Newbie -------Original Message------- From: Chuck Date: 08/08/05 10:43:59 To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! GREAT NEWS Mark! Congratulations!!! Chuck On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:30, Mark D. McCoy wrote: Mark D. McCoy wrote: > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns > out!! > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From dmyhand at cox-internet.com Mon Aug 8 15:59:35 2005 From: dmyhand at cox-internet.com (Dennis Myhand) Date: Mon Aug 8 14:37:02 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F7B719.000001.03804@HERC1> References: <1123515810.1118.388.camel@laptop> <42F7B719.000001.03804@HERC1> Message-ID: <1123531175.3779.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 14:48 -0500, Wayne Nelson wrote: > Congratulations!!!!! > > Wayne Nelson > Linux Newbie > > Aye! I'll second all the congrats to Mark. Good on ya. From wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com Mon Aug 8 22:14:45 2005 From: wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com (wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com) Date: Mon Aug 8 22:50:18 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? Message-ID: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I need to find inexpensive web hosting for a small, local organization. Does anyone know of any *really* cheap web hosting for a very low-traffic, static site that they could recommend? I'm hoping to find something in the $25-$40/year range. thanks. From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Aug 9 01:23:27 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Mon Aug 8 23:59:03 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Meeting This Wednesday Message-ID: <6tegf15kingb99p20ipbkoau4pok920m41@4ax.com> Just a reminder the next SATLUG meeting is this Wednesday night. Newly-minted RHCE Mark McCoy will present everything that can be known about udev, devfs, migration, hal and Utopia. Also bring your latest unrelated obstacles, issues, questions and problems as we love to play Stump the Experts. See www.satlug.org for maps/info. From WrkWatchr at hotmail.com Tue Aug 9 01:27:03 2005 From: WrkWatchr at hotmail.com (Wrkwatchr) Date: Tue Aug 9 00:02:48 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? In-Reply-To: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We use Dantor www.dantor.com They have prices as low as $36/year. We have their mid-level service which is ~$75/year but you get about a 40% discount if you pay annually. Roy -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:15 PM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? I need to find inexpensive web hosting for a small, local organization. Does anyone know of any *really* cheap web hosting for a very low-traffic, static site that they could recommend? I'm hoping to find something in the $25-$40/year range. thanks. _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Aug 9 02:12:58 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Aug 9 00:48:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? In-Reply-To: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:14:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote: >I need to find inexpensive web hosting for a small, >local organization. >I'm hoping to find something in the $25-$40/year range. Here are some I'm familiar with, although I'm not using any of these for hosting right now. Perhaps this will get you started. $2.36/month www.godaddy.com (1 page, 5MB) $2.99/month www.1and1.com (12 pages) $7.95/month www.satexas.com (nonprofit) There may be other options for specific types of organizations (like free hosting). We would need more info. Just be sure your Terms of Service require the Hosting company to stay out of the major anti-spam blocklists. It's not fun to have your email ignored because it comes from a spam-friendly block of IP addresses, no matter how innocent your client is. You may also want to avoid sharing the pipe with bandwidth hogs (porn sites) or likely targets for DoS attacks. Does the prospective Host have restrictions on content? Hope this helps! --Don -- Be well - or at least have interesting symptoms! From dean.mccall at nvision2020.com Tue Aug 9 10:39:26 2005 From: dean.mccall at nvision2020.com (Dean McCall) Date: Tue Aug 9 09:13:13 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Job at KCI.... Message-ID: <200508091413.j79ED9F07427@alamo.satlug.org> TX - San Antonio- System Administrator, UNIX(1896-pg) Description Responsible for conducting activities associated with the UNIX servers to insure proper functionality of these servers to include supporting end-users and software developers on a daily basis, monitoring growth trends; determining appropriate hardware upgrade strategies, troubleshooting systems related problems and provide monthly system performance metrics. Requirements Bachelor's degree in Computer Science/Computer Information Systems. Three years UNIX systems administration experience, preferably in IBM RS6000 systems UNIX backup and recovery knowledge. Knowledge or network equipment and TCP/IP network environment. Three years of UNIX script writing. Two years experience with with EMC Enterprise Storage hard/software. Proficient with SAN switch environment. Knowledge of Oracle databases requirements form UNIX perspective. Demonstrated good organizational and multi tasking skills. Available to travel to KCI San Antonio sites and be on-call when needed. Contact Information: Patty Garza Dean McCall President/ CEO Salsa.Net www.Salsa.net 210.422.9255 From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 08:44:05 2005 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Tue Aug 9 09:19:37 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Job at KCI.... In-Reply-To: <200508091413.j79ED9F07427@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050809144405.28835.qmail@web54309.mail.yahoo.com> A co-worker of mine used to work there as a programmer.. -Alex --- Dean McCall wrote: > TX - San Antonio- System Administrator, > UNIX(1896-pg) > > Description > Responsible for conducting activities associated > with the UNIX servers to > insure proper functionality of these servers to > include supporting end-users > and software developers on a daily basis, monitoring > growth trends; > determining appropriate hardware upgrade strategies, > troubleshooting systems > related problems and provide monthly system > performance metrics. > > > > Requirements > Bachelor's degree in Computer Science/Computer > Information Systems. Three > years UNIX systems administration experience, > preferably in IBM RS6000 > systems UNIX backup and recovery knowledge. > Knowledge or network equipment > and TCP/IP network environment. Three years of UNIX > script writing. Two > years experience with with EMC Enterprise Storage > hard/software. Proficient > with SAN switch environment. Knowledge of Oracle > databases requirements form > UNIX perspective. Demonstrated good organizational > and multi tasking skills. > Available to travel to KCI San Antonio sites and be > on-call when needed. > > > > Contact Information: Patty > > Garza > > > > > > Dean McCall > President/ CEO > > Salsa.Net > www.Salsa.net > 210.422.9255 > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From mdfilio at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 11:13:51 2005 From: mdfilio at gmail.com (M. Filio) Date: Tue Aug 9 09:49:21 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] PCI and SATA questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/30/05, Travis H. wrote: > And what's PCI-X and PCI-2.2? PCI-X is the new PCI bus 'PCI Express', basically only the very high end vid cards are using it so far. It's meant as a replacement to both AGP and the older PCI standards which PCI-2.2 is one of the standards. > And is SATA-150 the same as SATA-II? No, it's not. SATA-II is SATA-300, a double increase in its transfer rate. > Where would I find the answers to these kinds of questions? > I feel like there has to be a place... > Tom's hardware perhaps? I dunno, not really organized to make answering > these questions easy... Tom's Hardware is a good place. Another site I've been reading recently is http://www.anandtech.com/ And of course, if you use VIA chipsets a lot, you could read viaarena.com. From wanelson at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 11:25:29 2005 From: wanelson at yahoo.com (Wayne Nelson) Date: Tue Aug 9 10:00:45 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? References: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42F8CAE9.000001.02980@HERC1> Check-out GoDaddy.com Wayne Nelson -------Original Message------- From: wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com Date: 08/08/05 23:15:56 To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? I need to find inexpensive web hosting for a small, local organization. Does anyone know of any *really* cheap web hosting for a very low-traffic, static site that they could recommend? I'm hoping to find something in the $25-$40/year range. thanks. _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Aug 9 11:58:26 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Aug 9 10:34:05 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Job at KCI.... In-Reply-To: <20050809144405.28835.qmail@web54309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200508091413.j79ED9F07427@alamo.satlug.org> <20050809144405.28835.qmail@web54309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98khf1tpt9mmqs2nmcc9qa3adr51rpnpi0@4ax.com> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT), Alex Bartonek wrote: >A co-worker of mine used to work there as a >programmer.. Don't leave us hanging, what's the rest of the story? Was it his worst job ever? Does he wish he was back there? Were the *nix admins really MCSEs with a Dummies book? Did the Winter Holiday party have a rock band or country line dancing? You know... the important stuff. From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Tue Aug 9 10:03:05 2005 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Tue Aug 9 10:38:40 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Job at KCI.... In-Reply-To: <98khf1tpt9mmqs2nmcc9qa3adr51rpnpi0@4ax.com> Message-ID: <20050809160305.27877.qmail@web54305.mail.yahoo.com> LOL.. I didnt talk to him about it in detail.. we're both software engineers.. KCI at the time was developing in a language called Powerhouse, much like what we were doing at the time. Well KCI was having problems and he didnt like the atmosphere so he left. As to what it is like now, well by looking at their job ads, they've moved up to modern programming languages..lol. -Alex --- Don Wright wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT), Alex > Bartonek > wrote: > > >A co-worker of mine used to work there as a > >programmer.. > > Don't leave us hanging, what's the rest of the > story? > Was it his worst job ever? > Does he wish he was back there? > Were the *nix admins really MCSEs with a Dummies > book? > Did the Winter Holiday party have a rock band or > country line > dancing? > > You know... the important stuff. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bdubbs at swbell.net Tue Aug 9 12:49:26 2005 From: bdubbs at swbell.net (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Aug 9 11:24:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD questions Message-ID: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> I've not gotten into DVD burning and have a few questions. I have a DVD that was created from some video a group I belong to made. I would like to make this video available on a web site. I can mount the DVD as a regular device, but it has a lot of files on it that I don't recognize: .bup, .ifo, .vob, .ses, .mpg, .psd, .spu, .dvd, .mp2. The first question is how do I make a downloadable image for others to burn the DVD? Do I just use mkisofs on the files? If so, are there any special options? The second question is how do I extract files for direct viewing? There are nine segments and I'd like to have users look at the video directly off the web or download the files and view them on their computer. Most of the viewers would be using Windows systems, but some would use Macs. I'd like to use something that is compatible with all systems. Any advice or pointers to documents will be appreciated. -- Bruce From satlugmail at rcsinc.us Tue Aug 9 14:50:17 2005 From: satlugmail at rcsinc.us (Vinny Huckaba) Date: Tue Aug 9 13:25:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? In-Reply-To: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42F8FAE9.3010806@rcsinc.us> I own a web hosting company here in SA and will give major discounts to SATLUG list lurkers.. =) Basically I can work with you to get you started for $29.00/Year.. http://www.sawebhosting.com Vinny Huckaba (210) 738-1297 From lists at thehunter.ws Tue Aug 9 16:42:17 2005 From: lists at thehunter.ws (Jeremy Teale) Date: Tue Aug 9 15:17:47 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD questions In-Reply-To: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> References: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200508091542.17410.lists@thehunter.ws> mkisofs is certainly a very straightforward way to do it. mkisofs -dvd-video -o ./foo.img ./mounted_dvd_dir/ That image can be burned by any software that supports dvd burning. Of course theres plenty of applications that "gui-fy" and make it easy like Nero or K3b. If your a CLI kind of person use growisofs or cdrecord-prodvd i.e. growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=./foo.img where /dev/dvd is the device of your DVD burner. On Tuesday 09 August 2005 11:49 am, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've not gotten into DVD burning and have a few questions. > > I have a DVD that was created from some video a group I belong to made. > I would like to make this video available on a web site. > > I can mount the DVD as a regular device, but it has a lot of files on it > that I don't recognize: .bup, .ifo, .vob, .ses, .mpg, .psd, .spu, .dvd, > .mp2. > > The first question is how do I make a downloadable image for others to > burn the DVD? Do I just use mkisofs on the files? If so, are there any > special options? > > The second question is how do I extract files for direct viewing? There > are nine segments and I'd like to have users look at the video directly > off the web or download the files and view them on their computer. Most > of the viewers would be using Windows systems, but some would use Macs. > I'd like to use something that is compatible with all systems. > > Any advice or pointers to documents will be appreciated. > > > -- Bruce From lists at thehunter.ws Tue Aug 9 16:53:32 2005 From: lists at thehunter.ws (Jeremy Teale) Date: Tue Aug 9 15:29:03 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD questions In-Reply-To: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> References: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200508091553.32641.lists@thehunter.ws> Forgot the second question, That image can be mounted like any other udf image: mount -o loop -t udf filename.img /mnt/img That should work in OS X as well. Or they can always use Disk Utility to convert it to whatever the desired format is. As for windows, something like Daemon Tools could be used. I know WinRAR supports extraction from ISO9660 images, perhaps it's the same with UDF? If you were looking to just hand out the .vob files (the files with the actual video streams) most media players support reading directly from them. Or you could convert to an MPEG-2 and encode them however you wish. On Tuesday 09 August 2005 11:49 am, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've not gotten into DVD burning and have a few questions. > > I have a DVD that was created from some video a group I belong to made. > I would like to make this video available on a web site. > > I can mount the DVD as a regular device, but it has a lot of files on it > that I don't recognize: .bup, .ifo, .vob, .ses, .mpg, .psd, .spu, .dvd, > .mp2. > > The first question is how do I make a downloadable image for others to > burn the DVD? Do I just use mkisofs on the files? If so, are there any > special options? > > The second question is how do I extract files for direct viewing? There > are nine segments and I'd like to have users look at the video directly > off the web or download the files and view them on their computer. Most > of the viewers would be using Windows systems, but some would use Macs. > I'd like to use something that is compatible with all systems. > > Any advice or pointers to documents will be appreciated. > > > -- Bruce From solinym at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 23:22:49 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Tue Aug 9 21:58:20 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? In-Reply-To: <42F8FAE9.3010806@rcsinc.us> References: <20050809041446.12720.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42F8FAE9.3010806@rcsinc.us> Message-ID: I used to use smarterlinux.com for like $5-7/mo and their service was phenomenal. I got responses to my emails in less than an hour every time. -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From solinym at gmail.com Tue Aug 9 23:33:16 2005 From: solinym at gmail.com (Travis H.) Date: Tue Aug 9 22:08:46 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD questions In-Reply-To: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> References: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> Message-ID: > I can mount the DVD as a regular device, but it has a lot of files on it > that I don't recognize: .bup, .ifo, .vob, .ses, .mpg, .psd, .spu, .dvd, > .mp2. That's how DVDs store the video. I ended up using ogle to view copies of the dvd image on FC3. > The second question is how do I extract files for direct viewing? There > are nine segments and I'd like to have users look at the video directly > off the web or download the files and view them on their computer. Most > of the viewers would be using Windows systems, but some would use Macs. > I'd like to use something that is compatible with all systems. For smaller downloads, most people "rip" the DVD to a native computer video format like .mpeg, .avi, .rm, .qt, .mov, .asf or .wmv. Since this involves compression, the file ends up being smaller. Many of the files have the capability to use several different codecs, so you must choose both the file format and codec carefully for maximum compatibility, availability, etc. > Any advice or pointers to documents will be appreciated. This site has tons of good info: http://www.videohelp.com/ It's the definitive site on video file manipulation, cds, cdrs, dvds, etc. -- http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Aug 9 23:52:53 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Aug 9 22:25:17 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wish me luck! In-Reply-To: <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> References: <42F2DDD8.6000701@mccoyfam.net> <42F77A81.6040907@mccoyfam.net> Message-ID: <1123645973.9762.35.camel@ml110.camerontech.com> On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:30 -0500, Mark D. McCoy wrote: > Mark D. McCoy wrote: > > > I'm taking the RHCE exam tomorrow. I'll let ya'll know how it turns > > out!! > > > I got it! Cert # 804005377616305 Congratulations - you earned it! Thomas Cameron, RHCE, CNE, MCSE, MCT From bdubbs at swbell.net Wed Aug 10 00:30:08 2005 From: bdubbs at swbell.net (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Tue Aug 9 23:05:46 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD questions In-Reply-To: <200508091542.17410.lists@thehunter.ws> References: <42F8DE96.1030106@swbell.net> <200508091542.17410.lists@thehunter.ws> Message-ID: <42F982D0.8000204@swbell.net> Jeremy Teale wrote: > mkisofs is certainly a very straightforward way to do it. > mkisofs -dvd-video -o ./foo.img ./mounted_dvd_dir/ Thanks, but I ran into a problem with this. I did: $mkisofs -dvd-video -o pdt.iso /media/cdrom/ mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. Looking at the mkisofs man page: -dvd-video Generate DVD-Video compliant UDF file system. This is done by sorting the order of the content of the appropriate files and by adding padding between the files if needed. Note that the sort- ing only works if the DVD-Video filenames include upper case characters only. All the filenames are lower case. Don't know if this is a problem or not. Any clues? -- Bruce From yatinhat at yahoo.com Wed Aug 10 08:51:05 2005 From: yatinhat at yahoo.com (Mary Yatti) Date: Wed Aug 10 09:26:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Time of meeting In-Reply-To: <200508091534.j79FYdF08175@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050810145106.11339.qmail@web50104.mail.yahoo.com> Does the meeting start at 7 pm? I forget. I should be able to attend though as I'm in SA today. Mary From wmail at wricomp.com Wed Aug 10 11:29:49 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Wed Aug 10 10:05:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Time of meeting In-Reply-To: <20050810145106.11339.qmail@web50104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200508091534.j79FYdF08175@alamo.satlug.org> <20050810145106.11339.qmail@web50104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:51:05 -0700 (PDT), Mary Yatti wrote: >Does the meeting start at 7 pm? I forget. I should >be able to attend though as I'm in SA today. >From http://www.satlug.org "The next SATLUG meeting will be held Wednesday August 10th, 2005. The meeting will be held at the San Antonio College Nail Technical Center (usually room 140). Look for number 6 on this map. Please direct any questions regarding upcoming meetings to officers@satlug.org The meeting will begin at 7:00 PM. "Presentation: Topics: udev, devfs, migration, hal and Utopia. Mark McCoy will present this month, so everyone bring your notepads, questions and thinking caps. Also bring your latest unrelated obstacles, issues, questions and problems as always. Additional suggestions & requests for future month's topics welcome as always... " That's a not-so-subtle reminder that the SATLUG website is being updated in advance of the meetings once again, so one can quickly find such things without waiting for the lag of email to the list. From wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com Wed Aug 10 11:02:32 2005 From: wigyxz-satlug at yahoo.com (wigyxz-satlug@yahoo.com) Date: Wed Aug 10 11:38:02 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] cheap web hosting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050810170232.13819.qmail@web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you all for the great suggestions and offers. I'll take it back to the customer and see what they want to do. --- "Travis H." wrote: > I used to use smarterlinux.com for like $5-7/mo and their service was > phenomenal. I got responses to my emails in less than an hour every > time. > -- > http://www.lightconsulting.com/~travis/ > GPG fingerprint: 50A1 15C5 A9DE 23B9 ED98 C93E 38E9 204A 94C2 641B > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From hstreit at swri.edu Wed Aug 10 17:33:47 2005 From: hstreit at swri.edu (H. Streit) Date: Wed Aug 10 16:09:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSource IDE/Devel Tool for Win32 Message-ID: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> Hello all, First, lemme apologize for luring so long on the list. It's been ages since I've been able to get to a meet. Quick Question: We have a developer here that's driving me nuts. I want to expand her horizons by introducing her to an opensource tool. I was thinking BlueFish, but from what I can tell, it's *nix-only (I thought I saw a windows port, must've been mistaken). Can anyone recommend a BlueFish-ish IDE for both MSFT/Windows and GNU/Linux? She want's to develop internal, web-based apps... Thanks a M in advance!! From pixelnate at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 17:36:21 2005 From: pixelnate at gmail.com (Nathan Turnage) Date: Wed Aug 10 16:16:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSource IDE/Devel Tool for Win32 In-Reply-To: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> References: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> Message-ID: Bluefish (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl) is an excellent text editor. There is little it can't do. Except run on Windose, that is. I suppose you could use cygwin to run it on a windows box. I think you are looking for something more like Nvu (http://nvu.com/). It will run on most everything. Basically, it is the latest and greatest version of Netscape Composer, and is good for someone who wants to point and click to build basic websites, but IMHO, Bluefish is much better for those with experience hand coding HTML, PHP, et. al. Cheers, Nathan Turnage Production Artist / Web Designer Anderson Marketing Group 210.223.6233 main 210.230.6771 direct On Aug 10, 2005, at 4:33 PM, H. Streit wrote: > Hello all, > First, lemme apologize for luring so long on the list. It's been > ages since I've been able to get to a meet. > Quick Question: We have a developer here that's driving me nuts. I > want to expand her horizons by introducing her to an opensource tool. > I was thinking BlueFish, but from what I can tell, it's *nix-only (I > thought I saw a windows port, must've been mistaken). > Can anyone recommend a BlueFish-ish IDE for both MSFT/Windows and > GNU/Linux? She want's to develop internal, web-based apps... > > Thanks a M in advance!! > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From mikeaw at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 17:45:24 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Wed Aug 10 16:20:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSource IDE/Devel Tool for Win32 In-Reply-To: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> References: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> Message-ID: <4154519d0508101445664401cf@mail.gmail.com> Eclipse. What languages is she using for these webapps? -Mike On 8/10/05, H. Streit wrote: > Hello all, > First, lemme apologize for luring so long on the list. It's been > ages since I've been able to get to a meet. > Quick Question: We have a developer here that's driving me nuts. I want > to expand her horizons by introducing her to an opensource tool. I was > thinking BlueFish, but from what I can tell, it's *nix-only (I thought I > saw a windows port, must've been mistaken). > Can anyone recommend a BlueFish-ish IDE for both MSFT/Windows and > GNU/Linux? She want's to develop internal, web-based apps... > > Thanks a M in advance!! > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From wmail at wricomp.com Wed Aug 10 22:43:41 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Wed Aug 10 21:19:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Tonight's Meeting Message-ID: <98elf19icbge0ikimkjielqlnsa7do8svo@4ax.com> Woo-Hah! If you weren't there, you missed one heck of a meeting. Mark McCoy's presentation of hotplug/udev, the replacement for DevFS, taught something to almost everyone. Thanks, Mark! The after-meeting looked at some considerations and solutions for copying a huge amount of data between NTFS and XFS filesystems. How huge? As I left, the estimate was three to six DAYS using high-end servers. To get in on the fun, come to the next meeting -- Wed. September 14, 2005, at San Antonio College. See the SATLUG website (real soon now) for details. --Don From jesse at liberto.org Wed Aug 10 17:46:33 2005 From: jesse at liberto.org (jesse@liberto.org) Date: Wed Aug 10 21:21:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OpenSource IDE/Devel Tool for Win32 In-Reply-To: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> References: <42FA72BB.7090000@swri.edu> Message-ID: WTH, go out on a limb, and expose here to a user friendly version of an opensource os, with any opensource project installed. ~jesse On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, H. Streit wrote: > Hello all, > First, lemme apologize for luring so long on the list. It's been ages > since I've been able to get to a meet. > Quick Question: We have a developer here that's driving me nuts. I want to > expand her horizons by introducing her to an opensource tool. I was thinking > BlueFish, but from what I can tell, it's *nix-only (I thought I saw a windows > port, must've