From ramadoss at gbronline.com Tue Feb 1 06:18:31 2005 From: ramadoss at gbronline.com (MKR) Date: Tue Feb 1 05:58:27 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines In-Reply-To: <20050129030058.74464.qmail@web50108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200501290219.j0T2J6Y30218@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> You will be better off building your own machine. You can do it in one afternoon/evening. mkr At 07:00 PM 01/28/05 -0800, Mary Yatti wrote: >This computer is advertised at WalMart for under >$600.00: > eMachines Desktop PC, AMD Sempron 3000+ Processor w/ >17" CRT Monitor. >http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3429307#long_descr > >I know nothing about eMachines, only that they may >have been bought out by Gateway. I checked Consumer >Report online and they give eMachines a 'Recommended >Buy" rating. > >Any feedback from the group on eMachines? > >Or I could build my own in my spare time. But, it >seems the price to buy looks good. > >Thanks, >Mary -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Tue Feb 1 08:49:13 2005 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Tue Feb 1 08:29:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Non Profit Legal Center for Linux Message-ID: <200502011449.j11EnDcw023674@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Interesting development reported in today's NYTimes: An Effort to Help Free-Software Developers Avoid Suits By STEVE LOHR Published: February 1, 2005 Freely distributed open-source software like the Linux operating system has become increasingly popular, but one cloud over its future has been legal risk. So far, most of the lawsuits have involved claims that software code owned by someone else found its way into a cooperative programming project. A nonprofit legal center opening today, backed by $4 million in initial financing from a corporate consortium, will provide advice from specialists that is intended to minimize the risk that developers and users of free software will be sued. The Software Freedom Law Center, its founders say, will focus on helping the leaders of open-source software projects organize and manage their work in ways that anticipate and avoid potential legal pitfalls. A suit against I.B.M., seeking $1 billion, is largely responsible for the legal worries surrounding open-source software. The SCO Group, a small Utah company, has accused I.B.M. of contributing code to Linux that SCO legally controlled. I.B.M. has denied the accusations. "The SCO suit shows the need to really focus early on how open-source projects are structured and managed," said Eben Moglen, a law professor at Columbia University and a specialist in copyright law and software, who will be chairman of the new center. "That case is mostly a dispute about how software is put together. "We want to provide open-source projects with the groundwork so they know their projects are legally sound and put together with confidence," Mr. Moglen added. The center, based in New York, will offer free advice to nonprofit open-source software projects and developers. Private companies use open-source software and their programmers contribute code, but nonprofit groups typically organize projects like Linux, Apache and Debian. The initial funding for the center comes from the Open Source Development Labs, a consortium that seeks to accelerate the adoption of Linux. Its members include I.B.M., Intel and Hewlett-Packard. Linus Torvalds, who wrote the core of the Linux operating system, is employed by the group. Last year, the group coordinated a $10 million defense fund to provide support for Mr. Torvalds and any users of Linux that might be sued by SCO. The corporate champions of Linux say that legal support is needed for the further growth of Linux and the open-source software that will run on it. "This is one more step in the maturing process of open source," said Stuart Cohen, chief executive of the Open Source Development Labs. The legal center's board consists of a group of lawyers who are specialists on intellectual property and open-source software. Besides Mr. Moglen, it includes Lawrence Lessig, a law professor at Stanford University; Diane Peters, general counsel of the open source labs; and Daniel Weitzner, a lawyer and researcher at the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "Open-source software has been really important to the development of the Internet and the Web as a global communications and information medium," Mr. Weitzner said. "The idea of the center is to provide legal and strategic resources to help open source continue to grow." http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/01/technology/01soft.html?th Copyright New York Times From mikeaw at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 09:29:59 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Tue Feb 1 09:10:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> References: <200501290219.j0T2J6Y30218@alamo.satlug.org> <20050129030058.74464.qmail@web50108.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> Message-ID: <4154519d050201072958a1cc44@mail.gmail.com> Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of date! ;-) On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:18:31 -0600, MKR wrote: > You will be better off building your own machine. You can do it in one > afternoon/evening. > > mkr > > At 07:00 PM 01/28/05 -0800, Mary Yatti wrote: > > >This computer is advertised at WalMart for under > >$600.00: > > eMachines Desktop PC, AMD Sempron 3000+ Processor w/ > >17" CRT Monitor. > >http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3429307#long_descr > > > >I know nothing about eMachines, only that they may > >have been bought out by Gateway. I checked Consumer > >Report online and they give eMachines a 'Recommended > >Buy" rating. > > > >Any feedback from the group on eMachines? > > > >Or I could build my own in my spare time. But, it > >seems the price to buy looks good. > > > >Thanks, > >Mary > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From channing-c at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 10:04:11 2005 From: channing-c at satx.rr.com (Channing) Date: Tue Feb 1 09:44:09 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS serve Message-ID: <41FFA87B.4000607@satx.rr.com> Hey gang - This was posted on Austin Lug this morning. Thought I'd pass it on... Channing -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS server Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:51:30 -0600 From: Joe Barr Reply-To: The ALG General Discussion List To: ALG Quoting from this morning's paper: The e-mailed memo to representatives from the police and fire departments and Austin-Travis County Emergency Medical Services also listed dozens of other less serious complaints, which officials said they are working to correct. "The officers on the street depend on it to work," said Detective Mike Sheffield, president of the Austin Police Association. "We shouldn't have to put up with a (computer-aided dispatch) system like this." Garza said the same thing appears to have caused both crashes, and the problem has been traced to the city's Microsoft server, a component in the $6.3 million dispatching network by TriTech Software Systems. Microsoft officials could not be reached for comment Monday. Gosh, you think maybe they chose the wrong OS at the City? -------------- next part -------------- -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 From channing-c at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 10:11:23 2005 From: channing-c at satx.rr.com (Channing) Date: Tue Feb 1 09:51:20 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing Message-ID: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> I need to do some mail server testing off of my Road Runner account and I don't want to pay for a years worth of DynDNS's service to do so. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance, Channing -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 From patl at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 10:18:09 2005 From: patl at satx.rr.com (J. Patrick Lanigan) Date: Tue Feb 1 09:58:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing In-Reply-To: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> References: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <41FFABC1.4070302@satx.rr.com> Channing wrote: > > I need to do some mail server testing off of my Road Runner account > and I don't want to pay for a years worth of DynDNS's service to do > so. Does anyone have a suggestion? > > Thanks in advance, > Channing > > zoneedit.com is free HTH, Patrick From bryan.scott at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 10:22:20 2005 From: bryan.scott at gmail.com (Bryan Scott) Date: Tue Feb 1 10:09:31 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question Message-ID: Hi all, I am not sure what I am looking for. I know what I want to do, but not sure what it is called or how to do it. Any references or links would be most appreciated. I would like to set a Debian or whatever flavor Linux box with Postfix or some SMTP running in the DMZ and have it accept mail for my domain. This mail should transfer to the internal mail server where the actual mail will be hosted for the users. (That is the part that confuses me) Any idea what this is called? Thank you in Advance, Bryan -- ~-=Bryan=-~ bryan.scott at gmail.com From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Feb 1 11:02:09 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Feb 1 10:42:40 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question References: Message-ID: <005501c5087f$c413d4f0$164fad18@camerontech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Scott" To: "SATLUG" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question > Hi all, > > I am not sure what I am looking for. I know what I want to do, but not > sure what it is called or how to do it. Any references or links would > be most appreciated. > > I would like to set a Debian or whatever flavor Linux box with Postfix > or some SMTP running in the DMZ and have it accept mail for my domain. > This mail should transfer to the internal mail server where the actual > mail will be hosted for the users. (That is the part that confuses me) > Any idea what this is called? > > Thank you in Advance, > > Bryan Relaying. I do it for a client with Sendmail, ClamAV and SpamAssassin. My Linux box is "in front" of a Microsoft Exchange server, and sanitizes or tags the messages before the Exchange server ever sees them. It's actually very very easy to set up using Sendmail. I don't know about Postfix though, I am not a Postfix user. I have heard that it is easy there as well. Thomas From dubose at texas.net Tue Feb 1 11:03:44 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Tue Feb 1 10:44:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] iptables In-Reply-To: <41FEC760.4000003@vinny.us> References: <41FEB2E3.6010905@satx.rr.com> <41FEC760.4000003@vinny.us> Message-ID: <1107277424.41ffb6702106c@webmail.texas.net> I know a lot of people do this; however, a large number of Pacific Rim electronic manufacturers are in the 210-211 domain...such as AORUSA (who sells to the U.S. Government and industry) and Alinco and I think Vertex who also sell electronics to the U.S. government and industry. Walt Quoting Vinny : > iptables -A INPUT -s 211.141.80.0/24 -j DROP > iptables -A INPUT -s 211.141.254.0/24 -j DROP > > They are APNIC foreign addresses, I personally block them all.. > > iptables -A INPUT -s 210.0.0.0/8 -j DROP > iptables -A INPUT -s 211.0.0.0/8 -j DROP > > Here is a great website about those unwanted IP subnets. > > http://www.unixhub.com/block.html > > Vinny Huckaba > > Channing wrote: > > Hey gang, > > > > If I where to block a subrange of Class B addresses using iptables, how > > would I do that? The range would be 211.141.80/24 - 211.141.254/24. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Channing > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > From chuck at tetlow.net Tue Feb 1 11:04:10 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Tue Feb 1 10:44:37 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port Message-ID: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> Hey you other security types... Do any of you know what MS's uPnP (TCP port 2896) really is? Or what it does? The documentation on their site is VERY lacking. Its the only thing showing open right now on this new box I've put together for my brother. I know how to turn it off, but I don't want to break anything vital. On the other hand, I definitely don't want to leave any possible vulnerabilities open -- know what I mean? Thanks guys. Chuck From bryan.scott at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:10:43 2005 From: bryan.scott at gmail.com (Bryan Scott) Date: Tue Feb 1 10:51:21 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question In-Reply-To: <005501c5087f$c413d4f0$164fad18@camerontech.com> References: <005501c5087f$c413d4f0$164fad18@camerontech.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:02:09 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > I would like to set a Debian or whatever flavor Linux box with Postfix > > or some SMTP running in the DMZ and have it accept mail for my domain. > > This mail should transfer to the internal mail server where the actual > > mail will be hosted for the users. (That is the part that confuses me) > > Relaying. I do it for a client with Sendmail, ClamAV and SpamAssassin. My > Linux box is "in front" of a Microsoft Exchange server, and sanitizes or > tags the messages before the Exchange server ever sees them. > > It's actually very very easy to set up using Sendmail. I don't know about > Postfix though, I am not a Postfix user. I have heard that it is easy there > as well. > > Thomas > Thank you Gentlemen. I will search on this method and report back if I am confused again. :-) The setup you describe Thomas is exactly what I want to do. I will look into the option using Sendmail, I love easy. :-) Thank you so much again, -Bryan -- ~-=Bryan=-~ bryan.scott at gmail.com From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Feb 1 11:30:39 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:11:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question References: <005501c5087f$c413d4f0$164fad18@camerontech.com> Message-ID: <008501c50883$bfa24d30$164fad18@camerontech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Scott" To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SATLUG] SMTP question > Thank you Gentlemen. > > I will search on this method and report back if I am confused again. > :-) The setup you describe Thomas is exactly what I want to do. I will > look into the option using Sendmail, I love easy. :-) > > Thank you so much again, > > -Bryan Holler if you need any help. I use FC3 and have got packages for SpamAssassin, spamass-milter, DCC, Pyzor, Razor, ClamAV, and clamav-milter. I've got all the bits playing nice via sendmail.mc. Thomas From dubose at texas.net Tue Feb 1 11:31:43 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:12:12 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS server Message-ID: <1107279103.41ffbcff5e091@webmail.texas.net> I don't normally cross post...but this is really serious stuff if in fact is is happening as described/reported. Walt ----- Forwarded message from "Michael H. Collins" ----- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:57:40 -0600 From: "Michael H. Collins" Reply-To: The ALG General Discussion List Subject: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS server To: The ALG General Discussion List I have a fireman friend and he is always talking about how bad the system is. They have these ruggedized laptops that are constantly broken. (From looking at them when broken it looks like software instead of hw as knoppix runs just fine on em. Tri Tech seems to be bad news as a google for them is all sweetness and light like a Microsoft search. So much Spin so little time. http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=685 Joe Barr wrote: > Quoting from this morning's paper: > > > > The e-mailed memo to representatives from the police and fire > departments and Austin-Travis County Emergency Medical Services also > listed dozens of other less serious complaints, which officials said > they are working to correct. > > "The officers on the street depend on it to work," said Detective Mike > Sheffield, president of the Austin Police Association. "We shouldn't > have to put up with a (computer-aided dispatch) system like this." > > Garza said the same thing appears to have caused both crashes, and the > problem has been traced to the city's Microsoft server, a component in > the $6.3 million dispatching network by TriTech Software Systems. > > Microsoft officials could not be reached for comment Monday. > > > > Gosh, you think maybe they chose the wrong OS at the City? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ALG Mailing List http://austinlug.org/mailman/listinfo/alg -- Michael H. Collins Admiral, Penguinista Navy http://linuxlink.com http://www.apartmentratings.com/ you have to have self confidence to ride a scooter /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email x No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards If you love some code, set it free. _______________________________________________ ALG Mailing List http://austinlug.org/mailman/listinfo/alg ----- End forwarded message ----- From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Feb 1 11:35:54 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:16:24 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port References: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <008a01c50884$7b33ba20$164fad18@camerontech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck" To: "SATLUG" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port > Hey you other security types... > > Do any of you know what MS's uPnP (TCP port 2896) really is? Or what it > does? > > The documentation on their site is VERY lacking. Its the only thing > showing open right now on this new box I've put together for my > brother. I know how to turn it off, but I don't want to break anything > vital. On the other hand, I definitely don't want to leave any possible > vulnerabilities open -- know what I mean? > > Thanks guys. > > > Chuck Closest thinkg of any interest I could find sez it's used by either ECOVISIONG6-1 (http://www.securityreference.com/computers/ports/2000/2896.html) or some sort of SOAP application (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsoap/interop/ARCHIVED/server_log_011.txt). How do you turn it off? If you know what service with which it is associated, that will go a long way to finding out if it is a security problem. TC From chuck at tetlow.net Tue Feb 1 11:51:41 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:32:08 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port In-Reply-To: <008a01c50884$7b33ba20$164fad18@camerontech.com> References: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> <008a01c50884$7b33ba20$164fad18@camerontech.com> Message-ID: <1107280302.31007.1983.camel@laptop> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:35, Thomas Cameron wrote: Closest thinkg of any interest I could find sez it's used by either ECOVISIONG6-1 (http://www.securityreference.com/computers/ports/2000/2896.html) or some sort of SOAP application (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsoap/interop/ARCHIVED/server_log_011.txt). How do you turn it off? If you know what service with which it is associated, that will go a long way to finding out if it is a security problem. TC OK, you got me Tom. I misspoke. I should NOT have said "I know how to turn it off". I should have said "I know how to block it". If you go into the Windows XP SP2 firewall settings, there is a tab for "exceptions". (That's where I created and put in an exception for VNC). There are some default exceptions and one of them is "uPnP" which I found is TCP port 2896. I couldn't find much on the net about it and of course -- Micro$oft's documentation is crap. After locking down this box for my brother, I ran a complete TCP and UDP scan against it. That uPnP was the only thing that showed up -- although it showed "closed" in my nmap scan. I cleared that exception in the XP firewall and now it isn't showing up in nmap scans. I was just wondering what it did so I'd have an idea if I broke something. Thanks Tom. Chuck From jennifervg at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 10:01:41 2005 From: jennifervg at yahoo.com (Jennifer Van Gorkom) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:42:11 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port In-Reply-To: <1107280302.31007.1983.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <20050201180142.57281.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chuck if I am reading this right it is a port to control "univerals plug and play devices" probably part of Microsofts "make it so open that anything can control my box" archatecture. http://www.upnp.org/download/UPnPDA10_20000613.htm --- Chuck wrote: > On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:35, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > Closest thinkg of any interest I could find sez > it's used by either > ECOVISIONG6-1 > > (http://www.securityreference.com/computers/ports/2000/2896.html) > or some > sort of SOAP application > > (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsoap/interop/ARCHIVED/server_log_011.txt). > > How do you turn it off? If you know what > service with which it is > associated, that will go a long way to finding > out if it is a security > problem. > > TC > > > OK, you got me Tom. I misspoke. I should NOT have > said "I know how to > turn it off". I should have said "I know how to > block it". > > If you go into the Windows XP SP2 firewall settings, > there is a tab for > "exceptions". (That's where I created and put in an > exception for > VNC). There are some default exceptions and one of > them is "uPnP" which > I found is TCP port 2896. I couldn't find much on > the net about it and > of course -- Micro$oft's documentation is crap. > > After locking down this box for my brother, I ran a > complete TCP and UDP > scan against it. That uPnP was the only thing that > showed up -- > although it showed "closed" in my nmap scan. I > cleared that exception > in the XP firewall and now it isn't showing up in > nmap scans. I was > just wondering what it did so I'd have an idea if I > broke something. > > Thanks Tom. > > > Chuck > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Feb 1 12:03:24 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:43:54 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port In-Reply-To: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> References: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <4mgvv09lpts9s179c1v1rquupk0shvq5a7@4ax.com> On 01 Feb 2005 11:04:10 -0600, Chuck wrote: >Do any of you know what MS's uPnP (TCP port 2896) really is? Or what it >does? It's Microsoft's attempt to make SNMP "idiot-friendly." Currently about the only thing it does is control settings on UPnP-enabled NAT routers to automatically open ports for the vulnerability of the week. Potentially it can control any network device. Kill it on both sides. Here is a utility and some background. --Don http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Feb 1 12:22:55 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:03:25 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port References: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> <008a01c50884$7b33ba20$164fad18@camerontech.com> <1107280302.31007.1983.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <010d01c5088b$0c5c5060$164fad18@camerontech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck" To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port > On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:35, Thomas Cameron wrote: > > Closest thinkg of any interest I could find sez it's used by either > ECOVISIONG6-1 > (http://www.securityreference.com/computers/ports/2000/2896.html) or > some > sort of SOAP application > > (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsoap/interop/ARCHIVED/server_log_011.txt). > > How do you turn it off? If you know what service with which it is > associated, that will go a long way to finding out if it is a security > problem. > > TC > > > OK, you got me Tom. I misspoke. I should NOT have said "I know how to > turn it off". I should have said "I know how to block it". > > If you go into the Windows XP SP2 firewall settings, there is a tab for > "exceptions". (That's where I created and put in an exception for > VNC). There are some default exceptions and one of them is "uPnP" which > I found is TCP port 2896. I couldn't find much on the net about it and > of course -- Micro$oft's documentation is crap. > > After locking down this box for my brother, I ran a complete TCP and UDP > scan against it. That uPnP was the only thing that showed up -- > although it showed "closed" in my nmap scan. I cleared that exception > in the XP firewall and now it isn't showing up in nmap scans. I was > just wondering what it did so I'd have an idea if I broke something. > > Thanks Tom. > > > Chuck Someone on a Solaris list once told me: "shut it off and see who screams - if no one screams, it's OK." I dunno if I'd do it in a production environment, but I've done it at home a bunch of times, and typically any problems become pretty evident, pretty quickly. :-) YMMV... TC From chuck at tetlow.net Tue Feb 1 12:23:07 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:03:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Weird Micro$oft port In-Reply-To: <4mgvv09lpts9s179c1v1rquupk0shvq5a7@4ax.com> References: <1107277452.31011.1971.camel@laptop> <4mgvv09lpts9s179c1v1rquupk0shvq5a7@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1107282188.31011.1994.camel@laptop> Thanks Don. That linked page had a lot of good information. As I suspected -- another new fangled MS feature that already has vulnerabilities in it before it even gets started being used. That clenches it -- keep it blocked on this machine. Hopefully, the precautions I've taken on this box will keep it working for a while (and save me having to work on it!). Chuck On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:03, Don Wright wrote: On 01 Feb 2005 11:04:10 -0600, Chuck wrote: >Do any of you know what MS's uPnP (TCP port 2896) really is? Or what it >does? It's Microsoft's attempt to make SNMP "idiot-friendly." Currently about the only thing it does is control settings on UPnP-enabled NAT routers to automatically open ports for the vulnerability of the week. Potentially it can control any network device. Kill it on both sides. Here is a utility and some background. --Don http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From scarolan at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:23:47 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:04:26 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP question In-Reply-To: <008501c50883$bfa24d30$164fad18@camerontech.com> References: <005501c5087f$c413d4f0$164fad18@camerontech.com> <008501c50883$bfa24d30$164fad18@camerontech.com> Message-ID: <277020fc050201102315d0f707@mail.gmail.com> Donncha O Caoimh of the Cork LUG in Ireland has a script that automatically configures sendmail by asking you a series of easy-to-understand questions about what exactly you are trying to do with it. I have used his script for years to config sendmail on my Red Hat boxes and it works great. http://cork.linux.ie/staticpages/index.php/20030124172530559 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:30:39 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Scott" > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] SMTP question > > > Thank you Gentlemen. > > > > I will search on this method and report back if I am confused again. > > :-) The setup you describe Thomas is exactly what I want to do. I will > > look into the option using Sendmail, I love easy. :-) > > > > Thank you so much again, > > > > -Bryan > > Holler if you need any help. I use FC3 and have got packages for > SpamAssassin, spamass-milter, DCC, Pyzor, Razor, ClamAV, and clamav-milter. > I've got all the bits playing nice via sendmail.mc. > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From scarolan at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:25:50 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:06:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Network latency Message-ID: <277020fc0502011025394d7c5f@mail.gmail.com> Gang: What do you all use to test network latency and packet loss? I want a gui monitor that will quickly show me if we are experiencing unusual lag when loading websites, and where the bottleneck is located. I know I can traceroute from the command line, but would prefer an at-a-glance monitor that can check connections between workstations, firewall, and then the external internet. thanks Sean From cilorentson at devtex.net Tue Feb 1 12:32:42 2005 From: cilorentson at devtex.net (Chuck Lorentson) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:13:11 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] E machines. my 2 cents. cl In-Reply-To: <200502011610.j11GAoY07584@alamo.satlug.org> References: <200502011610.j11GAoY07584@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <41FFCB4A.4070907@devtex.net> were First, I am the newest of 'the newbies', sooo consider that. I own four old computers (1 not so old) My first was a Dell, and at first I was disappointed because I would have liked a 'homebuilt', but I did not have the expertise, (still shaky) I used the Dell for 6 years, looking back I got good service (the looking back is the important part) In 2000 my brother gave me his HP Pavilion 700mhz, because he was NOT a computer person, and had allow my enthusiasm to persuade him. It was a Wal Mart Special,,,, and the first thing I noticed was how noisy it was, working, and when you installed a cd. Only later did I ''''see'''' the significance; it is a very inexpensive machine. It is faster than the old Dell, but only after using the WalMart H/P did I come to really appreciate the Dell. With that said, I must also add, I paid a ton of money for the Dell, ( I did receive great service,tho, it was still too much money, but that has been 'the way of the industry') On a whim I bought a Apple/pear or something at the computer show,,,, (((yes, it was shinny))) it is a nice box, I just need to 'know more'. Last, my son in law build me a compute beginning of last year,,, it is fast, and a little more complicated than either my old dell or the Hp, but it is fast. I wish I had built it my self,,,, next time. Summing up, if I had it all to do again, if I had time,,(you spoke about lack of) I would definitely go 'homebuilt', but right behind that would be a Dell.$$$$$. One last thought, I don't visit our local pawn shop that much,,, but about a couple of years ago, he had several 'E machines' for sale, I asked??? They were previously his, and they were a extreme headache, his words, later at our local internet provider/computer repair, I saw the same machines (repair tags on them, yes I am nosey) and the service provider was '''very familiar''' with them. Just an observation. please excuse for being sooo "long" cl. satlug-request@satlug.org wrote: >Send SATLUG mailing list submissions to > satlug@satlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > satlug-request@satlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > satlug-owner@satlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of SATLUG digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: a lot of questions from a newbie (john shanks) > 2. Re: a lot of questions from a newbie (Mike Wallace) > 3. Re: Domain Data (J. Patrick Lanigan) > 4. Re: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (MKR) > 5. Non Profit Legal Center for Linux (Borries Demeler) > 6. Re: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (Mike Wallace) > 7. Fwd: Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS serve > (Channing) > 8. Mail Server Testing (Channing) > 9. Re: Mail Server Testing (J. Patrick Lanigan) > 10. SMTP question (Bryan Scott) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:25:08 -0600 >From: john shanks >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] a lot of questions from a newbie >To: Jeremy Mann >Cc: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > >Message-ID: <545786a60501311625717a244c@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Jeremy, I tried that, but bash couldn't find the cvs command. > > >On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:10:39 -0600, Jeremy Mann wrote: > > >>John, you're right. The only way to get the drivers is to download via >>cvs. They should have instructions on what to copy/paste in a terminal >>to start the CVS download. If not, here they are: >> >>cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi login >>hit enter for no password, then: >>cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi co -P madwifi >> >>Good luck! >> >> >>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:51:08 -0600, john shanks wrote: >> >> >>>I'm trying to update my wireless drivers since I've been having some >>>problems staying connected. I have an Atheros card in my laptop and >>>the only place I've found making drivers for that is the madwifi >>>project at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi). >>>They haven't released any packages yet, but I got the idea it's still >>>pretty reasonable, despite having problems with adhoc networks. >>> >>>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:33:10 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: >>> >>> >>>>What are you specifically trying to do? Update SuSE? Update some >>>>application? Do something else? Typically, binaries will be pre-made >>>>for you to install and you should only go the CVS route if you really >>>>want the latest bleeding edge version, which isn't really recommended >>>>for a "newbie." Give us some details and we can work through it. >>>> >>>>-Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>This probably fits in with the walkthrough question, but what do I do >>>>>with cvs files. I've been trying to update a few things and I can't >>>>>figure out how. >>>>> >>>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SATLUG mailing list >>>SATLUG@satlug.org >>>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jeremy >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:36:32 -0600 >From: Mike Wallace >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] a lot of questions from a newbie >To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > >Message-ID: <4154519d05013116364d242005@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Oh, you probably don't have CVS installed. That should be included >somewhere on your installation CDs or you could pretty easily find the >package online. Get that, and then do what Jeremy says. > >-Mike > >On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:25:08 -0600, john shanks wrote: > > >>Jeremy, I tried that, but bash couldn't find the cvs command. >> >> >>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:10:39 -0600, Jeremy Mann wrote: >> >> >>>John, you're right. The only way to get the drivers is to download via >>>cvs. They should have instructions on what to copy/paste in a terminal >>>to start the CVS download. If not, here they are: >>> >>>cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi login >>>hit enter for no password, then: >>>cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/madwifi co -P madwifi >>> >>>Good luck! >>> >>> >>>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:51:08 -0600, john shanks wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I'm trying to update my wireless drivers since I've been having some >>>>problems staying connected. I have an Atheros card in my laptop and >>>>the only place I've found making drivers for that is the madwifi >>>>project at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi). >>>>They haven't released any packages yet, but I got the idea it's still >>>>pretty reasonable, despite having problems with adhoc networks. >>>> >>>>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:33:10 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>What are you specifically trying to do? Update SuSE? Update some >>>>>application? Do something else? Typically, binaries will be pre-made >>>>>for you to install and you should only go the CVS route if you really >>>>>want the latest bleeding edge version, which isn't really recommended >>>>>for a "newbie." Give us some details and we can work through it. >>>>> >>>>>-Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>This probably fits in with the walkthrough question, but what do I do >>>>>>with cvs files. I've been trying to update a few things and I can't >>>>>>figure out how. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SATLUG mailing list >>>>SATLUG@satlug.org >>>>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Jeremy >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:49:08 -0600 >From: "J. Patrick Lanigan" >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Domain Data >To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > >Message-ID: <41FF1854.4060503@satx.rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Louis Warnholtz wrote: > > > >>Does anyone know the web site address of a site (in Ohio I believe) that you can bring up, then enter a domain name, and it will tell you all about the domain server and O/S they are running. >> >>Haven't used it for year, had it written down, but can't find or remember it. >> >>lou >> >> >> >> >You might also find samspade.org useful. > >--Patrick > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:18:31 -0600 >From: MKR >Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines >To: satlug@satlug.org >Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; > x-avg-checked=avg-ok-35FF4850 > >You will be better off building your own machine. You can do it in one >afternoon/evening. > >mkr > >At 07:00 PM 01/28/05 -0800, Mary Yatti wrote: > > > >>This computer is advertised at WalMart for under >>$600.00: >> eMachines Desktop PC, AMD Sempron 3000+ Processor w/ >>17" CRT Monitor. >>http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3429307#long_descr >> >>I know nothing about eMachines, only that they may >>have been bought out by Gateway. I checked Consumer >>Report online and they give eMachines a 'Recommended >>Buy" rating. >> >>Any feedback from the group on eMachines? >> >>Or I could build my own in my spare time. But, it >>seems the price to buy looks good. >> >>Thanks, >>Mary >> >> > > > > > From agrayfox at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:33:17 2005 From: agrayfox at gmail.com (augie) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:13:42 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Gmail invite In-Reply-To: <41F5FCEE.2040800@alamo.satlug.org> References: <41F5FCEE.2040800@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <1331203c050201103310e782bb@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:01:50 -0700, Jeff Barnette wrote: > At the risk of re-opening the flurry of postings... > > If anyone has a Gmail invite lying around, would you send one to me > OFF-LIST please? I have recently convinced my son to dump WinXP for > Linux and he wants to migrate away from his hotmail account at the same > time. > > -- > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > Jeff, If you still want an invite for a gmail account, send me the name and email address for your son and I'll send it direct to him so he can have it in his name otherwise it'll try to sign him up in your name. If you would like one yourself, just let me know, I can provide you with one also. -- augie agrayfox at gmail dot com From edcoates at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:56:05 2005 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:36:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing In-Reply-To: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> References: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <8ee65edd0502011056873d068@mail.gmail.com> Why not sign up for their free service? I have nighthawk.dyndns.org and have my own mail server set up here. Ed On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:11:23 -0600, Channing wrote: > > I need to do some mail server testing off of my Road Runner account and > I don't want to pay for a years worth of DynDNS's service to do so. > Does anyone have a suggestion? > > Thanks in advance, > Channing > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From eli at then7.com Tue Feb 1 13:10:23 2005 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:49:09 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Network latency In-Reply-To: <277020fc0502011025394d7c5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <277020fc0502011025394d7c5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41FFD41F.8080400@then7.com> Sean Carolan wrote: >Gang: > >What do you all use to test network latency and packet loss? I want a >gui monitor that will quickly show me if we are experiencing unusual >lag when loading websites, and where the bottleneck is located. I >know I can traceroute from the command line, but would prefer an >at-a-glance monitor that can check connections between workstations, >firewall, and then the external internet. > >thanks > >Sean > > hmmm. i guess i do things the hardway. i traceroute and ping locally, as well as from multiple locations (i have servers in San Antonio, Dallas and Austin), looking for lost packets and slow downs. i also use these public route servers (link below) to ping and traceroute (among other things) from networks outside of mine. http://www.traceroute.org/#Route%20Servers ~e From ramadoss at gbronline.com Tue Feb 1 13:21:13 2005 From: ramadoss at gbronline.com (MKR) Date: Tue Feb 1 13:01:00 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines In-Reply-To: <4154519d050201072958a1cc44@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> <200501290219.j0T2J6Y30218@alamo.satlug.org> <20050129030058.74464.qmail@web50108.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201131956.03b2f8f0@mail.gbronline.com> I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to build one an evening. mkr At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of >date! ;-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 From mikeaw at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 13:44:37 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Tue Feb 1 13:25:06 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201131956.03b2f8f0@mail.gbronline.com> References: <200501290219.j0T2J6Y30218@alamo.satlug.org> <20050129030058.74464.qmail@web50108.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> <4154519d050201072958a1cc44@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201131956.03b2f8f0@mail.gbronline.com> Message-ID: <4154519d050201114412525a27@mail.gmail.com> The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) -Mike On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > build one an evening. > > mkr > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > >date! ;-) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From rwegner at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 14:58:36 2005 From: rwegner at satx.rr.com (Richard Wegner) Date: Tue Feb 1 14:38:52 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Sound Card In-Reply-To: <41FDB2A2.4010504@satx.rr.com> References: <20050131050839.9385.qmail@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <41FDB2A2.4010504@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <41FFDF6C.90306@satx.rr.com> Richard Wegner wrote: > Jennifer Van Gorkom wrote: > >> check the mixer settings to make sure that the unused >> inputs are set to off. Line-In and the Microphone >> amplifiers are the single largest cause of static on a >> sound card. if you are running gnome, the gnome mixer >> should let you simply zero those out and the static >> should go away. >> >> The sound card you have once you get the settings >> right for your physical setup should work with few >> problems. >> >> >> > I hate to say this but how do you do this? I am using gnome 2.6 right > now with Mandrake 10.1 Community Edition. > > I really do appreciate EVERYONE who has helped me, I never got such > support when I used Winblows from anygroup. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The next thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a spare set to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again thanks for everyones help. - From jr7958 at sbc.com Tue Feb 1 14:59:47 2005 From: jr7958 at sbc.com (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) Date: Tue Feb 1 14:39:30 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E29F@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.com> http:/www.newegg.com 'nuff said. -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wallace Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:45 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) -Mike On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > build one an evening. > > mkr > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > >date! ;-) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Feb 1 15:43:47 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Feb 1 15:24:19 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Sound Card References: <20050131050839.9385.qmail@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com><41FDB2A2.4010504@satx.rr.com> <41FFDF6C.90306@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <030f01c508a7$1c3d0990$164fad18@camerontech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wegner" To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card > Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The next > thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a spare set > to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again thanks for > everyones help. Is the sound card integrated into the motherboard? I had an Intel board with a built in soundcard that I got all kinds of weird hums and clicks from, especially when my hard drive was really active. It was bizarre. I bought a cheap sound card from a Discount Electronics and everything was fine. Thomas From scarolan at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 16:04:03 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue Feb 1 15:44:32 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing In-Reply-To: <8ee65edd0502011056873d068@mail.gmail.com> References: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> <8ee65edd0502011056873d068@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <277020fc05020114042a60aa55@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:56:05 -0600, Ed Coates wrote: > Why not sign up for their free service? I have nighthawk.dyndns.org > and have my own mail server set up here. > > Ed I second that. I have used the free dyndns service for a couple years now and it works great. Some routers even have a built-in feature that will 'touch' the record once in a while to keep your IP address up to date. Even if you don't have that, you can just log in once a month or so to keep your account active. I can VNC, FTP, and ssh to my home linux server from work - it's great! From cilorentson at devtex.net Tue Feb 1 16:11:16 2005 From: cilorentson at devtex.net (Chuck Lorentson) Date: Tue Feb 1 15:51:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] 2cents=ed 2$,sorry, sorry.cl In-Reply-To: <200502011849.j11InfY09265@alamo.satlug.org> References: <200502011849.j11InfY09265@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <41FFFE84.7050203@devtex.net> Will try todo better next time. cl. > > From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 16:16:51 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Tue Feb 1 15:58:16 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook Message-ID: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there was another possible solution. I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have to go that route. Zeb From jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 16:24:53 2005 From: jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com (Jesse Gonzalez) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:05:21 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare (except for emulating the hardware). On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook > inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running > in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and > told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I > don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there > was another possible solution. > I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have > to go that route. > > Zeb > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From agrayfox at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 16:16:03 2005 From: agrayfox at gmail.com (augie) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:56:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines In-Reply-To: <4154519d050201114412525a27@mail.gmail.com> References: <200501290219.j0T2J6Y30218@alamo.satlug.org> <20050129030058.74464.qmail@web50108.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201061640.05f4eb00@mail.gbronline.com> <4154519d050201072958a1cc44@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20050201131956.03b2f8f0@mail.gbronline.com> <4154519d050201114412525a27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1331203c05020115167b3c0ca6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:44:37 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to > the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe > how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) > > -Mike > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > > build one an evening. > > > > mkr > > > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > > >date! ;-) > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > YES, seaching for a good deal is what consumes the time. TTB - Time to build, should take from a half hour to an afternoon. I've done several simultaneously in an hour. Had to build over 200 NT4 workstations for the Y2K scam, even though I kept telling my boss that we had nothing to worry about. Oh well, it paid the bills. Just make sure you research the compatability for your hardware if you're planning to install *nix especially if you want to add things such as raid, scsi, usb, nic, etc. Do your homework! OTOH if all you want is a win machine... you're on your own. *v* -- augie agrayfox at gmail dot com From hapihakr at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 15:51:58 2005 From: hapihakr at yahoo.com (Antonio) Date: Tue Feb 1 17:32:26 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls Message-ID: <20050201235158.13220.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone used any of these and can you give me some recommendations, pointers, etc. Thanks, Antonio __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From david.salisbury at momentumweb.com Tue Feb 1 18:02:46 2005 From: david.salisbury at momentumweb.com (David Salisbury) Date: Tue Feb 1 17:43:13 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls References: <20050201235158.13220.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01ea01c508ba$87222bb0$8100a8c0@dsalisburydsk> Well, it's pretty old-school, but I've found PMFirewall to be a solid and highly-functional Linux-based firewall. It uses ipchains as opposed to iptables like some of the newer ones, but it works! http://www.pointman.org/PMFirewall/ I'm sure other people will have some more recently-created software packages to recommend to you! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antonio" To: "SATLUG Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? > I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide > basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network > of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a > bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been > looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone > used any of these and can you give me some > recommendations, pointers, etc. > > Thanks, > Antonio > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 18:24:24 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Tue Feb 1 18:04:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing In-Reply-To: <277020fc05020114042a60aa55@mail.gmail.com> References: <41FFAA2B.2020302@satx.rr.com> <8ee65edd0502011056873d068@mail.gmail.com> <277020fc05020114042a60aa55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <128bff2f0502011624229057dc@mail.gmail.com> I use zoneedit as well and it works great, there are clients for almost all OS's that will update the dns server when ever your IP changes. You can even write a simple shell script to update the records and put it into cron. By doing it this way you can get your own domain. Zoneedit will even allow for subdomains so if you want to share it your able to, or even create virtual host in apache so you can have multiple websites running on the same ip. I do this for a teacher friend of mine who wanted to separate work from his personal site, works quite nicely if he would ever learn to update his website. Zeb On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:04:03 -0600, Sean Carolan wrote: > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:56:05 -0600, Ed Coates wrote: > > Why not sign up for their free service? I have nighthawk.dyndns.org > > and have my own mail server set up here. > > > > Ed > > I second that. I have used the free dyndns service for a couple years > now and it works great. Some routers even have a built-in feature > that will 'touch' the record once in a while to keep your IP address > up to date. Even if you don't have that, you can just log in once a > month or so to keep your account active. > > I can VNC, FTP, and ssh to my home linux server from work - it's great! > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 18:31:03 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Tue Feb 1 18:11:31 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I knew about that one. I really want to get away from Microsoft altogether on my laptop hence one of the reasons I bought an iBook, no way can I get frustrated with Linux and go back to Windows with the iBook. It's hard for me to kick MS when it's required for so many different aspects of my life, school and work. I think I might just wait until the end of this semester and format, repartition and get it working on linux. Thanks Zeb On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:24:53 -0600, Jesse Gonzalez wrote: > Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare > (except for emulating the hardware). > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > > I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook > > inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running > > in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and > > told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I > > don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there > > was another possible solution. > > I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have > > to go that route. > > > > Zeb > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From mgrooms at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 18:35:55 2005 From: mgrooms at satx.rr.com (Matt Grooms) Date: Tue Feb 1 18:16:23 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls In-Reply-To: <20050201235158.13220.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200502020035.j120ZtJ6029025@ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com> IP Cop. http://www.ipcop.org/ I've been using it for about four years. Not a liveCD solution, but all you need to do is download the ISO image, burn the CD and do the super easy install. It supports up to four interfaces (red-Internet, orange-DMZ, blue-wireless, and green- internal. Red interface can be broadband, DSL, or dial-up. Displays system/network status, system/traffic/proxy graphs. Services provided range from Proxy/DHCP/Time servers to Traffic shaping and Intrusion detection via SNORT. Firewall provides port forwarding, external access, DMZ pinholes, etc. Built in support for the most popular dynamic DNS hosting services like (dynDNS, easydns, regfish, zoneedit, etc.). Get the latest version 1.4.2 ISO here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.2.iso?download Lot's of features, it's well worth a look. Don't even think about being intimidated by the feature list. The install is easy, Easy, EASY. Works well on just about any old PC you've got laying around. I bet you lunch you won't be disappointed if you give it a try! Matt Grooms > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf Of Antonio > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:52 PM > To: SATLUG Mailing List > Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > > Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? > I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide > basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network > of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a > bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been > looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone > used any of these and can you give me some > recommendations, pointers, etc. > > Thanks, > Antonio > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From rwegner at satx.rr.com Tue Feb 1 18:50:55 2005 From: rwegner at satx.rr.com (Richard Wegner) Date: Tue Feb 1 18:31:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Sound Card In-Reply-To: <030f01c508a7$1c3d0990$164fad18@camerontech.com> References: <20050131050839.9385.qmail@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <41FDB2A2.4010504@satx.rr.com> <41FFDF6C.90306@satx.rr.com> <030f01c508a7$1c3d0990$164fad18@camerontech.com> Message-ID: <420015DF.2090000@satx.rr.com> Thomas Cameron wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wegner" > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card > >> Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The >> next thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a >> spare set to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again >> thanks for everyones help. > > > Is the sound card integrated into the motherboard? I had an Intel > board with a built in soundcard that I got all kinds of weird hums and > clicks from, especially when my hard drive was really active. It was > bizarre. I bought a cheap sound card from a Discount Electronics and > everything was fine. > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > The sound is onboard but not till I did the install of Mandrake 10.1 did it do the static. I might do what you suggested getting a sound card and using that, but right now funds are low as that I'm saving up for a trip with my wife and I to New York City in June. From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:20:09 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:00:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f05020117204f95caf5@mail.gmail.com> Hey Zeb, I run Debian PPC Linux on my Mac at work. Yes guys, I have a Mac ;( Anyway, I've used YellowDog and Debian on it and you'll be surprised at how much faster it is with Linux. As a bonus, in case you leave OS X on the thing, check out Mac On Linux. I've got a screenshot here of my desktop: http://mann.uthscsa.edu/images/snapshot1.png Top right is a 1024x768 window running OS X 10.3.5. Its not emulated like VMware so its very, very fast. All devices work, in fact you can still use iMovie with a firewire camera, burn with Disk Image if you have a burner and such. It's totally cool ;) On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:31:03 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > Yeah, I knew about that one. I really want to get away from Microsoft > altogether on my laptop hence one of the reasons I bought an iBook, no > way can I get frustrated with Linux and go back to Windows with the > iBook. It's hard for me to kick MS when it's required for so many > different aspects of my life, school and work. I think I might just > wait until the end of this semester and format, repartition and get it > working on linux. > > Thanks > Zeb > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:24:53 -0600, Jesse Gonzalez > wrote: > > Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare > > (except for emulating the hardware). > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > > > I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook > > > inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running > > > in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and > > > told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I > > > don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there > > > was another possible solution. > > > I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have > > > to go that route. > > > > > > Zeb > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:21:39 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:02:07 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Sound Card In-Reply-To: <420015DF.2090000@satx.rr.com> References: <20050131050839.9385.qmail@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <41FDB2A2.4010504@satx.rr.com> <41FFDF6C.90306@satx.rr.com> <030f01c508a7$1c3d0990$164fad18@camerontech.com> <420015DF.2090000@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f05020117215dad3261@mail.gmail.com> Richard, check the type of cable you're using from your soundcard. I have a certain 1/8" plug that gives me headaches. I've since replaced it with a cable with better shielding and the buzzing and artifacts go away. On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:50:55 -0500, Richard Wegner wrote: > Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wegner" > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card > > > >> Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The > >> next thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a > >> spare set to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again > >> thanks for everyones help. > > > > > > Is the sound card integrated into the motherboard? I had an Intel > > board with a built in soundcard that I got all kinds of weird hums and > > clicks from, especially when my hard drive was really active. It was > > bizarre. I bought a cheap sound card from a Discount Electronics and > > everything was fine. > > > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > The sound is onboard but not till I did the install of Mandrake 10.1 did > it do the static. I might do what you suggested getting a sound card > and using that, but right now funds are low as that I'm saving up for a > trip with my wife and I to New York City in June. > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Jeremy From jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 19:28:10 2005 From: jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com (Jesse Gonzalez) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:08:38 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is there any particular reason you want to run linux on your iBook? I assume your running Panther, but Tiger is coming out soon, and from the ADC Tech Talks I went to late last year, the new Tiger and XCode features sound very promising. But, due to an NDA I cannot discuss them. If it's software you want, fink works great. Gentoo (portage) has been ported to OS X as well, but last time I checked it was not production ready. ~jesse On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:31:03 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > Yeah, I knew about that one. I really want to get away from Microsoft > altogether on my laptop hence one of the reasons I bought an iBook, no > way can I get frustrated with Linux and go back to Windows with the > iBook. It's hard for me to kick MS when it's required for so many > different aspects of my life, school and work. I think I might just > wait until the end of this semester and format, repartition and get it > working on linux. > > Thanks > Zeb > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:24:53 -0600, Jesse Gonzalez > wrote: > > Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare > > (except for emulating the hardware). > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > > > I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook > > > inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running > > > in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and > > > told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I > > > don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there > > > was another possible solution. > > > I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have > > > to go that route. > > > > > > Zeb > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From dave at jesinc.com Tue Feb 1 19:34:19 2005 From: dave at jesinc.com (Dave Hyde) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:14:46 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] I have a friend Message-ID: Who is looking for an IT job any body have any suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of satlug-request@satlug.org Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:44 PM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: SATLUG Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5 Send SATLUG mailing list submissions to satlug@satlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to satlug-request@satlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at satlug-owner@satlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SATLUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (MKR) 2. Re: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (Mike Wallace) 3. Re: Sound Card (Richard Wegner) 4. RE: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (REYNOLDS, JEREMY (SBCSI)) 5. Re: Sound Card (Thomas Cameron) 6. Re: Mail Server Testing (Sean Carolan) 7. 2cents=ed 2$,sorry, sorry.cl (Chuck Lorentson) 8. Linux on a iBook (Zeb Fletcher) 9. Re: Linux on a iBook (Jesse Gonzalez) 10. Re: OT: Looking for advice on eMachines (augie) 11. Linux firewalls (Antonio) 12. Re: Linux firewalls (David Salisbury) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600 From: MKR Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20050201131956.03b2f8f0@mail.gbronline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-6C742A4C I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to build one an evening. mkr At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of >date! ;-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:44:37 -0600 From: Mike Wallace Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <4154519d050201114412525a27@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) -Mike On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > build one an evening. > > mkr > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > >date! ;-) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:58:36 -0500 From: Richard Wegner Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <41FFDF6C.90306@satx.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Richard Wegner wrote: > Jennifer Van Gorkom wrote: > >> check the mixer settings to make sure that the unused >> inputs are set to off. Line-In and the Microphone >> amplifiers are the single largest cause of static on a >> sound card. if you are running gnome, the gnome mixer >> should let you simply zero those out and the static >> should go away. >> >> The sound card you have once you get the settings >> right for your physical setup should work with few >> problems. >> >> >> > I hate to say this but how do you do this? I am using gnome 2.6 right > now with Mandrake 10.1 Community Edition. > > I really do appreciate EVERYONE who has helped me, I never got such > support when I used Winblows from anygroup. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The next thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a spare set to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again thanks for everyones help. - ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:59:47 -0600 From: "REYNOLDS, JEREMY \(SBCSI\)" Subject: RE: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines To: "Mike Wallace" , "The San Antonio Linux User's GroupMailing List" Message-ID: <8C905E5B8FC22A41A92CFBF81F2ACFA0C1E29F@MOSTLS1MSGUSR11.ITServices.sbc.c om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http:/www.newegg.com 'nuff said. -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wallace Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:45 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) -Mike On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > build one an evening. > > mkr > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > >date! ;-) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:43:47 -0600 From: "Thomas Cameron" Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <030f01c508a7$1c3d0990$164fad18@camerontech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wegner" To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Sound Card > Well, I did all that and there is still static on my sound card. The next > thing I will check is the speakers but right now I don't have a spare set > to try it out with. I will keep everyone posted. Again thanks for > everyones help. Is the sound card integrated into the motherboard? I had an Intel board with a built in soundcard that I got all kinds of weird hums and clicks from, especially when my hard drive was really active. It was bizarre. I bought a cheap sound card from a Discount Electronics and everything was fine. Thomas ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:04:03 -0600 From: Sean Carolan Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Mail Server Testing To: Ed Coates , "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <277020fc05020114042a60aa55@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:56:05 -0600, Ed Coates wrote: > Why not sign up for their free service? I have nighthawk.dyndns.org > and have my own mail server set up here. > > Ed I second that. I have used the free dyndns service for a couple years now and it works great. Some routers even have a built-in feature that will 'touch' the record once in a while to keep your IP address up to date. Even if you don't have that, you can just log in once a month or so to keep your account active. I can VNC, FTP, and ssh to my home linux server from work - it's great! ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:11:16 -0600 From: Chuck Lorentson Subject: [SATLUG] 2cents=ed 2$,sorry, sorry.cl To: satlug@satlug.org Message-ID: <41FFFE84.7050203@devtex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Will try todo better next time. cl. > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600 From: Zeb Fletcher Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there was another possible solution. I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have to go that route. Zeb ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:24:53 -0600 From: Jesse Gonzalez Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook To: Zeb Fletcher , "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare (except for emulating the hardware). On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook > inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running > in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and > told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I > don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there > was another possible solution. > I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have > to go that route. > > Zeb > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:03 -0700 From: augie Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Looking for advice on eMachines To: Mike Wallace , "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <1331203c05020115167b3c0ca6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:44:37 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > The actual *building* should take an afternoon. I was referring to > the time spent determining what parts to buy. You wouldn't believe > how long I spend looking for good deals. ;-) > > -Mike > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:21:13 -0600, MKR wrote: > > I have been thru building a machine before. Hence it was possible for me to > > build one an evening. > > > > mkr > > > > At 09:29 AM 02/01/05 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > > > > >Better off, yes. But in a single afternoon? Maybe I'm just slow, but > > >I can't decide on all the pieces and parts I want in just an > > >afternoon. Of course, by the time I do decide, everything is out of > > >date! ;-) > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 01/27/05 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > YES, seaching for a good deal is what consumes the time. TTB - Time to build, should take from a half hour to an afternoon. I've done several simultaneously in an hour. Had to build over 200 NT4 workstations for the Y2K scam, even though I kept telling my boss that we had nothing to worry about. Oh well, it paid the bills. Just make sure you research the compatability for your hardware if you're planning to install *nix especially if you want to add things such as raid, scsi, usb, nic, etc. Do your homework! OTOH if all you want is a win machine... you're on your own. *v* -- augie agrayfox at gmail dot com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Antonio Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls To: SATLUG Mailing List Message-ID: <20050201235158.13220.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone used any of these and can you give me some recommendations, pointers, etc. Thanks, Antonio __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:02:46 -0600 From: "David Salisbury" Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <01ea01c508ba$87222bb0$8100a8c0@dsalisburydsk> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Well, it's pretty old-school, but I've found PMFirewall to be a solid and highly-functional Linux-based firewall. It uses ipchains as opposed to iptables like some of the newer ones, but it works! http://www.pointman.org/PMFirewall/ I'm sure other people will have some more recently-created software packages to recommend to you! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antonio" To: "SATLUG Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? > I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide > basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network > of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a > bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been > looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone > used any of these and can you give me some > recommendations, pointers, etc. > > Thanks, > Antonio > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug End of SATLUG Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5 ************************************* From eli at then7.com Tue Feb 1 20:03:10 2005 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:43:26 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <420034DE.1060708@then7.com> Jesse Gonzalez wrote: >Is there any particular reason you want to run linux on your iBook? > that question has been asked around the net...just a few times ;-) -some linux enthusiasts/admins/developers just _like_ the apple hardware -some linux enthusiasts/admins/developers have to use a mac (it's what's on the desk) -linux can be made faster. e.g. my ibook is running debian with most daemons disabled, it boots only to a console and when i want a gui, i exec fluxbox...os-x can't touch the speed. -some ppl are linux-on-ppc developers (for the embedded sector) and find linux on a mac useful. -some ppl are switchers. they discovered linux and "mac os" has lost it's luster. -some people want to because they are rebels. -perhaps a smart mac admin sees job/personal-growth opportunity if he/she expands their horizons beyond the very pretty gui of "os x". i could type more, but it would bore everyone. ~e From WrkWatchr at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 21:07:12 2005 From: WrkWatchr at hotmail.com (Wrkwatchr) Date: Tue Feb 1 20:48:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MSserver In-Reply-To: <1107279103.41ffbcff5e091@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of dubose@texas.net Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:32 AM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MSserver I don't normally cross post...but this is really serious stuff if in fact is is happening as described/reported. Walt ----- Forwarded message from "Michael H. Collins" ----- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:57:40 -0600 From: "Michael H. Collins" Reply-To: The ALG General Discussion List Subject: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS server To: The ALG General Discussion List I have a fireman friend and he is always talking about how bad the system is. They have these ruggedized laptops that are constantly broken. (From looking at them when broken it looks like software instead of hw as knoppix runs just fine on em. Tri Tech seems to be bad news as a google for them is all sweetness and light like a Microsoft search. So much Spin so little time. http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=685 Joe Barr wrote: > Quoting from this morning's paper: > > > > The e-mailed memo to representatives from the police and fire > departments and Austin-Travis County Emergency Medical Services also > listed dozens of other less serious complaints, which officials said > they are working to correct. > > "The officers on the street depend on it to work," said Detective Mike > Sheffield, president of the Austin Police Association. "We shouldn't > have to put up with a (computer-aided dispatch) system like this." > > Garza said the same thing appears to have caused both crashes, and the > problem has been traced to the city's Microsoft server, a component in > the $6.3 million dispatching network by TriTech Software Systems. > > Microsoft officials could not be reached for comment Monday. > > > > Gosh, you think maybe they chose the wrong OS at the City? > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Isn't Austin one of the Texas cities where M$ did a software audit...found a couple of out of compliance machines, then extrapolated the fines they could hold the city ransom for...then offered them a good deal that if they only committed to M$, M$ would "help" them manage their infrastructure for several million?? R From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Feb 1 21:53:37 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Feb 1 21:34:07 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: [Fwd: "linux"] In-Reply-To: <31bde60e050131144051c921b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1107206648.1140.0.camel@klaus.home.net> <31bde60e050131144051c921b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502012153.37984.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Monday 31 January 2005 04:40 pm, John Ziriax wrote: > Looks like NPR is going to do a spot on Linux and OS software in > Brazil. They already did a bit today. Yup.. brought a tear to my eye.. :) Tweeks From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 22:16:45 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Tue Feb 1 21:57:15 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f05020116311cab23e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4200542D.7060000@gmail.com> Jesse Gonzalez wrote: >Is there any particular reason you want to run linux on your iBook? I >assume your running Panther, but Tiger is coming out soon, and from >the ADC Tech Talks I went to late last year, the new Tiger and XCode >features sound very promising. But, due to an NDA I cannot discuss >them. > >If it's software you want, fink works great. Gentoo (portage) has been >ported to OS X as well, but last time I checked it was not production >ready. > >~jesse > > >On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:31:03 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > > >>Yeah, I knew about that one. I really want to get away from Microsoft >>altogether on my laptop hence one of the reasons I bought an iBook, no >>way can I get frustrated with Linux and go back to Windows with the >>iBook. It's hard for me to kick MS when it's required for so many >>different aspects of my life, school and work. I think I might just >>wait until the end of this semester and format, repartition and get it >>working on linux. >> >>Thanks >>Zeb >> >>On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:24:53 -0600, Jesse Gonzalez >> wrote: >> >> >>>Microsoft has Virtual PC for the Mac, which is similar to VMWare >>>(except for emulating the hardware). >>> >>> >>>On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:16:51 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I'm curious is there anything that will let me run linux on a iBook >>>>inside of OS X. I have seen the opposite where I can have OS X running >>>>in Linux. The previous owner of the iBook had yellow dog on here and >>>>told me he couldn't get the modem or the ethernet to work and since I >>>>don't currently have an airport card for it I was wondering if there >>>>was another possible solution. >>>> I really don't want to repartition if I can help it, but might have >>>>to go that route. >>>> >>>>Zeb >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SATLUG mailing list >>>>SATLUG@satlug.org >>>>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> > > > There is no real reasons other than I know Linux better than OS X. I'm thinking that my best bet is just to go with a linux distro and then run OS X through Mac on Linux like Jermey suggested. I will just have to wait though until I have more time devoted to the task. Zeb From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Feb 1 22:25:40 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Feb 1 22:06:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on a iBook In-Reply-To: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f050201141661a6c237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502012225.40170.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On the free side.. a lot of people are talking about devil-linux: http://www.devil-linux.org/home/index.php as well as Sentry: http://www.sentryfirewall.com/ Here are some LIve CD firewalls: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php?sort=&showonly=firewall Tweeks From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Feb 1 22:38:40 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Feb 1 22:19:09 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Load Average In-Reply-To: <277020fc05013112386edb9a63@mail.gmail.com> References: <277020fc05013112386edb9a63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502012238.40856.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Monday 31 January 2005 02:38 pm, Sean Carolan wrote: > Just curious how you sysadmins gauge your load average and memory > usage. How much load average is too much? What are your 'rules of > thumb' for managing your servers? I run a light server... so anything over a load level of "1" I usually want to examine. A load of 1 means that processes are now getting queued by the scheduler, so UNDER 1 is "great". But on a moderately busy server... load levels of 3-4 are common. You have to watch out for getting up in the 8-12 area though. Depending on which version of sendmail you run.. sendmail stops accepting new connections at 8 or 12.. and goes to queue only mode slightly higher than that. That being said.. some people who run lots of RAM and a hard core dynamic web server may load levels in the 20-40 range. I've seen bad CGI programming spike load levels > 100-120 range! You see your load with the "uptime" command (shows that last 1, 5, and 15 minutes)... or run "top" and it shows you the data in real time until you break out. Tweeks From jesika at geektribe.org Tue Feb 1 22:41:18 2005 From: jesika at geektribe.org (octalpus) Date: Tue Feb 1 22:21:40 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Watch out for this louse... In-Reply-To: <1106601533.32310.1547.camel@laptop> References: <1106601533.32310.1547.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <420059EE.2040506@geektribe.org> Ugh, I wish I had seen this earlier. This guy contacted a friend of mine through an online ad and he passed it off to me. I got in touch with him and he requested a very specific package of security hardening procedures that another company was offering for $100. I gave him my hourly rate, which was significantly higher than this company's off-site service, and he was satisfied with that, so I went out to take care of it. In a couple hours, I finished all the services he requested. All through it, he's talking about how Ensim will take care of all the setup he needs done. After I finish the security stuff, he then pulls out the email from Ensim and asks that I install it. I reminded him of my hourly rate and he said it wasn't a problem, he had $200 budgeted (my rate is low compared to some, but not terribly low... at this point, I only had about and hour and a half invested). I did some of the additional installs that he requested and left for the day, agreeing to return on Monday to finish what he asked. On Monday, I ran the Ensim install script and it chokes, because although Centos is based on Red Hat, it is slightly different, and this commercial product wanted Red Hat. So, I gave him his options on how to get the setup he wanted, collected my pay for the work done, and left. Now, he's phoning me asking why I didn't show up the next day (He specifically mentioned that he did not have the money to follow through with any of the options and did not request further services from me). He called to ask me questions about error messages and the like (off the clock, of course). He left a lengthy phone message about me not completing services and having poor business ethic. Sorry, I don't work like that. I finished what was requested and even attempted to assist him further at my agreed-upon rate. This @$$hole is now hounding me to finish (for free) a job I never agreed to. Also, he IS a spammer, hosting "off-shore" pharmaceutical companies that are absolutely not legal in the US (I had to listen to all his stories of Viagra and steroids). Personally, I hope he DOES get his server running, so that I can immediately call Grande and have him cut off. So, this guy is still going to be looking for service. He is also VERY pissed with me and Chuck. He claims that Chuck threatend to hack his website and that he forwarded the e-mail to the FBI (shah, right...). Be doubly-warned!! Jesika Chuck wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I want to put the word out to all the other Linux folks here in SA. >I've run into a louse using Linux here in SA. And I hope you can steer >clear of this louse if I warn you about him. > >There is a "businessman" in this area (up near New Braunfels if I >remember right) who told me on the phone that the websites he hosts are >"quasi-legal". He explained that they are legal in some countries and >illegal in others. He's hosting companies that sell DRUGS over the >Internet -- so you can make a pretty good guess as to their legality. > >This Roger Wilson sent me a e-mail direct a couple weeks ago. Claims it >was the second time he's asked for help on the SATLUG list. But I >checked and he's never posted to the list -- in fact, he wasn't even >signed up to the list. OK, no matter -- I figured I'd see what I could >do to help. > >He asked me to build a new server for him and do all the customization >to make it a full "virtual domain host". That means EVERYTHING to host >multiple domains -- Apache for the websites, a MTA for e-mail to/from >the domains, POP/IMAP to download/upload e-mail, FTP access to load the >sites, FULL GUI management packages, and of course -- lock it down for >security. On top of that, he wants to use a multiple processor machine >and wants full RAID support on multiple drives. As I'm sure everyone on >this list will agree -- between the initial server load, setup, and >custom software configurations -- that's at least a four hour job >(personally -- I'd guess more like six-eight hours). > >This guy led me on for over a week eating up my time asking for >recommendations on this and that, how to do this job or that one, and >even asking to be given a demonstration of the current GUI management >packages (which I spent two hours demo'ing for him). > >THEN -- just as he's about to have me do the work, he wants me to do it >at his place so he can watch. I've got no problem, but I mention to him >that my rate for "on-site" work is higher than if I do it at my office. >OH -- that sets him off. He claims that he's only got $100 to do the >whole job and that he had stated that in the first e-mail (which he >DIDN'T). That's when I realized what a worm this guy is and told him to >forget it -- that he's already eaten up that much in hogging up my time. > >I just wanted to put out the facts and warn everyone else on the list. >WATCH OUT for this guy. Basically he's looking to get commercial work >-- either free or only paying a pittance. > >Don't get me wrong -- I volunteer my time constantly. I spent more than >six hours loading Linux on people's computers this past Saturday. BUT >-- that's wasn't businesses getting money for using those computers as >servers. For that kind of commercial work -- its only fair that my or >your time be compensated. Roger Wilson doesn't seem to think that way >though. Be warned!!! > > >Chuck > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Feb 1 22:52:58 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Feb 1 22:33:27 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Network latency In-Reply-To: <277020fc0502011025394d7c5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <277020fc0502011025394d7c5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502012252.58027.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> For internet/traceroutes.. I like visualroute: http://visualroute.visualware.com/ Here are some test point from around the world: http://www.testmyspeed.com/cooltools/visualroute.htm For testing for "packet loss".. I find ping flood ("ping -f") is effective for checking the pipe (or a bad NIC)... just don't overuse.. it's bad netiquette and can piss off the network admins across each network that you traverse... in fact.. some clueless ISPs might consider it "hacking activity" There used to be a really good end-to-end web server monitoring service that measured every point between your server, to the clients, and back.. even including client render time. It was called appliant and it used javascript and HTML custom tags to collect server, link, and client data and correlated it all in a nice centralized reporting interface. Here's a paper on their technology: http://www.perkowitz.net/research/papers/appliant.html Cool stuff.. but they went out of business back in 2001-02 timeframe. Good stuff.. we used them for a while... Wish I knew if anyone else ever adopted and run with their technology. Tweeks On Tuesday 01 February 2005 12:25 pm, Sean Carolan wrote: > Gang: > > What do you all use to test network latency and packet loss? I want a > gui monitor that will quickly show me if we are experiencing unusual > lag when loading websites, and where the bottleneck is located. I > know I can traceroute from the command line, but would prefer an > at-a-glance monitor that can check connections between workstations, > firewall, and then the external internet. > > thanks > > Sean > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Feb 1 23:15:10 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Feb 1 22:55:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SATA vs PATA In-Reply-To: <1107213504.31007.1847.camel@laptop> References: <1107213504.31007.1847.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <200502012315.10339.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Monday 31 January 2005 05:18 pm, Chuck wrote: > Hey group, > > I'm a little short on time and was wondering if anyone has done any > research/reading on the comparison of PATA vs SATA drives??? I've done a little.. > I know the drives run at the same speeds (inside a particular model > type). But what about the transfer speeds? Is SATA significantly > faster than PATA drives in transferring data to the MB? Is there the > same problem with interrupt conflicts between the "master" and "slave" > on the same IDE channel? Not an issue.. no more mater/slave. You only run one master per bus. That's part of the advantage of the design... This combined with UDMA, huge buffer sizes.. and NOW.. with the recent addition of command queuing... and >10k RPM drives.. SATA is positioned to even overthrow SCSI systems... > The reason I ask is that I need to upgrade my machine ASAP and might > consider SATA if there is a significant performance increase. SATA over PATA.. yea.. definitely.. SATA over U320 SCSI... ehhh.. it's getting there... Price/performance (bang for hte buck) is what really makes SATA attractive. Check it out: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BRZ/is_11_22/ai_98977132 and http://www.lostcircuits.com/motherboard/abit_nf7-s/9.shtml I'm building a MythTV PVR.. and using all SATA (except for the DVD-RW). No brainer for me... and that's saying a lot since I'm an old Amiga-geek.. I'm a BIG SCSI fan... I run 100% SCSI at home. My next home system will probably be SATA also. More info on the SATA standards here: http://www.serialata.org/specifications.asp Tweeks From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Feb 1 23:48:29 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Feb 1 23:28:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] SATA vs PATA In-Reply-To: <200502012315.10339.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <1107213504.31007.1847.camel@laptop> <200502012315.10339.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:15:10 -0600, Tom Weeks wrote: >... I run 100% SCSI at home. My next home system will probably >be SATA also. So what do you think of Serial SCSI? From dubose at texas.net Wed Feb 2 09:32:01 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Feb 2 09:12:42 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MSserver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1107358321.4200f271958d4@webmail.texas.net> Quoting Wrkwatchr : Isn't Austin one of the Texas cities where M$ did a software audit...found a couple of out of compliance machines, then extrapolated the fines they could hold the city ransom for...then offered them a good deal that if they only committed to M$, M$ would "help" them manage their infrastructure for several million?? R ==================================================================== Yes. Walt =================================================================== > > > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf > Of dubose@texas.net > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:32 AM > To: satlug@satlug.org > Subject: [SATLUG] Fwd: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due > to MSserver > > > I don't normally cross post...but this is really serious stuff if in fact > is > is happening as described/reported. > > Walt > > ----- Forwarded message from "Michael H. Collins" > > ----- > Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:57:40 -0600 > From: "Michael H. Collins" > Reply-To: The ALG General Discussion List > Subject: Re: [alg] Slightly OT: City 911 system crashing due to MS > server > To: The ALG General Discussion List > > I have a fireman friend and he is always talking about how bad the > system is. They have these ruggedized laptops that are constantly > broken. (From looking at them when broken it looks like software instead > of hw as knoppix runs just fine on em. Tri Tech seems to be bad news as > a google for them is all sweetness and light like a Microsoft search. > So much Spin so little time. > > http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=685 > > Joe Barr wrote: > > Quoting from this morning's paper: > > > > > > > > The e-mailed memo to representatives from the police and fire > > departments and Austin-Travis County Emergency Medical Services also > > listed dozens of other less serious complaints, which officials said > > they are working to correct. > > > > "The officers on the street depend on it to work," said Detective Mike > > Sheffield, president of the Austin Police Association. "We shouldn't > > have to put up with a (computer-aided dispatch) system like this." > > > > Garza said the same thing appears to have caused both crashes, and the > > problem has been traced to the city's Microsoft server, a component in > > the $6.3 million dispatching network by TriTech Software Systems. > > > > Microsoft officials could not be reached for comment Monday. > > > > > > > > Gosh, you think maybe they chose the wrong OS at the City? > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Isn't Austin one of the Texas cities where M$ did a software audit...found > a > couple of out of compliance machines, then extrapolated the fines they > could > hold the city ransom for...then offered them a good deal > that > if they only committed to M$, M$ would "help" them manage their > infrastructure for several million?? > > R > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > From h_oudini at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 16:30:06 2005 From: h_oudini at hotmail.com (Kase Saylor) Date: Wed Feb 2 10:11:35 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Personal domain and webserver Message-ID: All, If I own a domain name, say foo.us, how would I go about hosting foo.us from my own server? How would DNS know to wind www.foo.us at my IP? TIA, Kase From paulmacejewski at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 11:49:03 2005 From: paulmacejewski at gmail.com (Paul Macejewski) Date: Wed Feb 2 11:29:35 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls In-Reply-To: <200502020035.j120ZtJ6029025@ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com> References: <20050201235158.13220.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> <200502020035.j120ZtJ6029025@ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com> Message-ID: <8d3555e40502020949ef78e3e@mail.gmail.com> Is the IPcop PPPoE implementation stable? I've heard stories about a dedicated firewall that has problems with PPPoE but i cant remember which. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:35:55 -0600, Matt Grooms wrote: > IP Cop. http://www.ipcop.org/ > > I've been using it for about four years. Not a liveCD solution, but all you > need to do is download the ISO image, burn the CD and do the super easy > install. > > It supports up to four interfaces (red-Internet, orange-DMZ, blue-wireless, > and green- internal. Red interface can be broadband, DSL, or dial-up. > Displays system/network status, system/traffic/proxy graphs. Services > provided range from Proxy/DHCP/Time servers to Traffic shaping and Intrusion > detection via SNORT. Firewall provides port forwarding, external access, DMZ > pinholes, etc. Built in support for the most popular dynamic DNS hosting > services like (dynDNS, easydns, regfish, zoneedit, etc.). > > Get the latest version 1.4.2 ISO here: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.2.iso?download > > Lot's of features, it's well worth a look. Don't even think about being > intimidated by the feature list. The install is easy, Easy, EASY. Works well > on just about any old PC you've got laying around. I bet you lunch you won't > be disappointed if you give it a try! > > Matt Grooms > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > > Behalf Of Antonio > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:52 PM > > To: SATLUG Mailing List > > Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > > > > Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? > > I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide > > basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network > > of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a > > bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been > > looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone > > used any of these and can you give me some > > recommendations, pointers, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > Antonio > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > -- Paul Macejewski Yuri has you! http://yuri4281.blogspot.com/ paulmacejewski@gmail.com From wmail at wricomp.com Wed Feb 2 12:25:24 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Wed Feb 2 12:05:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Personal domain and webserver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:30:06 +0000, "Kase Saylor" wrote: >If I own a domain name, say foo.us, how would I go about hosting foo.us from >my own server? How would DNS know to wind www.foo.us at my IP? That's what name servers (DNS) are for. You will need a DNS server that has a fixed address to translate www.foo.us into your current IP address. You then tell your domain registrar (where you purchased foo.us) the addresses of your DNS servers. (You should have two.) The root server for the .us domain can then point queries for www.foo.us to the DNS servers for foo.us, which then answer the question. They also answer queries like what computer(s) handle mail for foo.us. If you have a static IP you can host your own DNS server, or you can use one of the cheap dynamic IP services like dyndns. There are many others, including cheap/free services from your domain registrar. Similarly, a reverse-DNS server is needed to tell people that, for example, 207.235.6.99 really belongs to alamo.satlug.org, and not some spammer trying to fool people. Your Internet connection provider (or hosting provider) usually does that. If you have a dynamic IP like a home DSL or cable connection it's unlikely you will be able to change that, so some systems will not trust you. For more information get the book on DNS and BIND from O'Reilly. I have found copies of the current edition at Half Price Books. Most books about operating Web servers also have a chapter on DNS, since it's hard to run a server nobody can find. --Don -- MS Windows: The great crippler of young computers. From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 12:50:14 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Wed Feb 2 12:31:15 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Personal domain and webserver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <128bff2f050202105078a7e0f7@mail.gmail.com> Kase, The way I do it on the cheap is I go through zoneedit.com. They will host the domain name for you free. They have clients as well that you can download that will update the DNS record for you when your ip address changes. I personally like this setup because I can add subdomains and split up where I want people to go based on names. Its not really hard to setup check out the below websites for alot more detail and explaination. http://www.zoneedit.com/doc/dynamic.html? http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/sbs-zoneedit-registration.html Zeb On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:30:06 +0000, Kase Saylor wrote: > All, > > If I own a domain name, say foo.us, how would I go about hosting foo.us from > my own server? How would DNS know to wind www.foo.us at my IP? > > TIA, > > Kase > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From mgrooms at satx.rr.com Wed Feb 2 13:30:23 2005 From: mgrooms at satx.rr.com (Matt Grooms) Date: Wed Feb 2 13:10:51 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls In-Reply-To: <8d3555e40502020949ef78e3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502021930.j12JUN8I001889@ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com> Don't know. As a broadband (TW/RR) user, I don't use PPPoE. Try going to the IPCop support page http://www.ipcop.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename =IPCopSupport and do some research. There are user & developer mail lists, an IRC channel, and an IPCop community web site listed where you might find an answer. I read both mail lists regularly and there is a significant amount of traffic regarding PPPoE connections, but its traffic I ignore, so I can't tell you whether it's positive or negative. Matt Grooms > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf Of Paul Macejewski > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:49 AM > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > > Is the IPcop PPPoE implementation stable? I've heard stories about a > dedicated firewall that has problems with PPPoE but i cant remember > which. > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:35:55 -0600, Matt Grooms > wrote: > > IP Cop. http://www.ipcop.org/ > > > > I've been using it for about four years. Not a liveCD solution, but all > you > > need to do is download the ISO image, burn the CD and do the super easy > > install. > > > > It supports up to four interfaces (red-Internet, orange-DMZ, blue- > wireless, > > and green- internal. Red interface can be broadband, DSL, or dial-up. > > Displays system/network status, system/traffic/proxy graphs. Services > > provided range from Proxy/DHCP/Time servers to Traffic shaping and > Intrusion > > detection via SNORT. Firewall provides port forwarding, external access, > DMZ > > pinholes, etc. Built in support for the most popular dynamic DNS hosting > > services like (dynDNS, easydns, regfish, zoneedit, etc.). > > > > Get the latest version 1.4.2 ISO here: > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.2.iso?download > > > > Lot's of features, it's well worth a look. Don't even think about being > > intimidated by the feature list. The install is easy, Easy, EASY. Works > well > > on just about any old PC you've got laying around. I bet you lunch you > won't > > be disappointed if you give it a try! > > > > Matt Grooms > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > > > Behalf Of Antonio > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:52 PM > > > To: SATLUG Mailing List > > > Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls > > > > > > Could someone recommend an easy-to-use Linux firewall? > > > I'm not a newbie, just lazy. I just want to provide > > > basic home firewall and NAT service for a home network > > > of PCs connected to the Internet. And I'd prefer a > > > bootable CD solution with easy configuration. Been > > > looking and I see what is out there, but has anyone > > > used any of these and can you give me some > > > recommendations, pointers, etc. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > -- > Paul Macejewski > > Yuri has you! > http://yuri4281.blogspot.com/ > paulmacejewski@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From trikster_abacus at linuxmail.org Thu Feb 3 04:02:44 2005 From: trikster_abacus at linuxmail.org (TriKster Abacus) Date: Wed Feb 2 13:43:12 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls Message-ID: <20050202200244.2D57D3982EF@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> ipcop is supposed to be pretty good.. I have used Clarkconnect, it does, dns (you can register a domain through them.. and they will take care of everything for you.. so your ip address whether or not it is dynamic or static.. is always current.. (unless you are on dialup). Clarkconnect, does *simple updates via webpage on your network, I.E. security updates and such from Clarkconnect using apt-get (the distro at least the one I used with the Clarkconnect I had was based on RedHat 9.0..) *Firewall and snort *dhcp *router, gateway, including bridged and pppoe *Webpage services *ftp *samba *ssh *port and resource monitoring *domain and DNS services *dynamic DNS *intrusion detection updates *mail/MX backup *daily security audits *antivirus protection *antispam tools *port forwarding (this was at least when I used ClarkConnect last. (stuck with a stupid linksys router for some damned reason now..) Here is the download for the home edition of 3.0 (last I used was 2.0) http://download3.clarkconnect.com/3.0/iso/ More information on Clarkconnect can be found here: http://www.clarkconnect.com/ Also when you view the webpage take notice, that is pretty much how the interface for the configuration via webbrowser looks. Hope this helps. Thank you Sincerely, TriKster Abacus -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From cheepayliu at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 2 16:19:39 2005 From: cheepayliu at sbcglobal.net (The Lius) Date: Wed Feb 2 15:59:51 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls In-Reply-To: <20050202200244.2D57D3982EF@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003101c50975$4c2c9160$4400a8c0@dare> How many NICs does Clarkconnect support? Chip -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of TriKster Abacus Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:03 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: RE: [SATLUG] Linux firewalls ipcop is supposed to be pretty good.. I have used Clarkconnect, it does, dns (you can register a domain through them.. and they will take care of everything for you.. so your ip address whether or not it is dynamic or static.. is always current.. (unless you are on dialup). Clarkconnect, does *simple updates via webpage on your network, I.E. security updates and such from Clarkconnect using apt-get (the distro at least the one I used with the Clarkconnect I had was based on RedHat 9.0..) *Firewall and snort *dhcp *router, gateway, including bridged and pppoe *Webpage services *ftp *samba *ssh *port and resource monitoring *domain and DNS services *dynamic DNS *intrusion detection updates *mail/MX backup *daily security audits *antivirus protection *antispam tools *port forwarding (this was at least when I used ClarkConnect last. (stuck with a stupid linksys router for some damned reason now..) Here is the download for the home edition of 3.0 (last I used was 2.0) http://download3.clarkconnect.com/3.0/iso/ More information on Clarkconnect can be found here: http://www.clarkconnect.com/ Also when you view the webpage take notice, that is pretty much how the interface for the configuration via webbrowser looks. Hope this helps. Thank you Sincerely, TriKster Abacus -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From bbarenblat at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 17:01:30 2005 From: bbarenblat at gma