From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Mar 1 00:17:35 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Mon Feb 28 23:57:23 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with Boot Loaders In-Reply-To: <4223EECE.4010704@bluebottle.com> References: <42231F6E.8060707@bluebottle.com> <4223EECE.4010704@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <200503010017.35174.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Monday 28 February 2005 10:25 pm, Oracle Nine wrote: > on my system /boot/grub/grub.conf is symlinked to menu.lst. Hmm.. I thought both Red Hat and Gentoo used /boot/grub/grub.conf with the menu.lst file being the symlink. Other problems that I saw were: -Your kernel line did not mount your root fs as read only.. Should have looked something like: kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 -Plus.. if you're running a windows system.. it (the C: drive) normally resides on the first partition (or (dh0,0) ). So if you have both a Linux and a Windows load on the same drive (assuming that XP is your first partition), and your boot is hda2 (or hd0,1) and root is on hda3 (not 2), then your first grub.conf stanza should look like this: title=Linux 2.6.10-ac10 root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda3 -Make those changes, get the system running again, and then try "grub-install /dev/hda" command. Tweeks From me at jchampion.com Tue Mar 1 06:52:30 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (John Champion) Date: Tue Mar 1 06:32:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] First Time Login to RR References: <42233516.6090708@accd.edu> <1109656057.1097.260.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <000a01c51e5d$87c58db0$0200a8c0@blackhole1> there used to be something like that but for additional email accounts you only need to point your browser to https://ams-server.satx.rr.com/usermanager/LogonUser.asp and fill in the blanks. you shouldn't have to do anything more than fill in the blanks. back in the early days of sa roadrunner, they only supporter windows installations (mostly because a partner was microsoft). i think that attitude has changed since then (and so has partnerships). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck" To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [SATLUG] First Time Login to RR > Glenn, > > I saw a number of responses to your questions and they are right -- if > you're just going on-line, DHCP is all you need. But I remember back to > when I first got RR and there was something else. > > RR has a "account setup" area where you set up information about your > account and can grab some additional names for e-mail addresses. It was > almost two years before I realized it (almost 2000) and is how I was > able to grab additional names like linux@satx.rr.com. > > If I remember right, it wasn't something as simple as logging into a > webpage and doing the setup. I seem to remember having to set up an > extra authentication engine on my Linux firewall, but don't remember > what it was. I tried looking in some backup files I had from my old > firewall (before I switched to a PIX), but those are > post-2001-hard-drive-failure files -- nothing from my original firewall. > > I'm trying to remember Glenn -- I think it was a PPP login to the RR > initial set up page. And of course, PPP does require either CHAP or PAP > for authentication. But once you did the initial login with RR and set > up the other account names, you could then manage the account with a > just a browser. > > Don't know if its the same now, that was six years ago. But I do > remember doing the extra authentication to get into the RR set up area. > Maybe that's what your student is talking about. > > > > Chuck > > > > On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 09:13, Glenn F. Boswell wrote: > > I have researched the web but find no real answer to how to logon to a > broadband connection with Linux. I know many do, so here is my > question. What do you have to do to get the name and password to RR. I > have used the dial-up-connection method when I use a "modem" but I've > never connected directly to RR without a router to handle the name and > password. I've looked a pap secrets and looked at ifcfg-eth0 > keyworks but nothing seems to connect the dots for me. This is either so > simple or I'm having CRS again. The fact I don't see a quick solutions > in Linux bothers me or am I missing something real basic here. My > original reason for asking is I have a student who wants to connect to > RR via his RH9.0 install and doesn't have a router, but now I'm > wondering where I missed the boat on this part of networking in Linux. > I've had RR {Earthlink last 2 years} for five years and never went > direct to RR in Linux so guess this is a question I should have asked 5 > years ago. Any good help for an old fart? If you have a good web url on > this or a text referral it would be helpful. > > Thanks > > BTW if any officers are reading this the search the archives seems to > not work, for the search the Satlug web site nor the search the mail > archives. > > -- > Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@accd.edu > San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > A free alternative to MS Office: http://www.openoffice.org/ > (do not take personal just my point of view) > > "We make a living by what we Get. > We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.3 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 > > From oracle9 at bluebottle.com Tue Mar 1 09:11:36 2005 From: oracle9 at bluebottle.com (Oracle Nine) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:53:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with Boot Loaders In-Reply-To: <200503010017.35174.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <42231F6E.8060707@bluebottle.com> <4223EECE.4010704@bluebottle.com> <200503010017.35174.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <42248628.6030207@bluebottle.com> Sorry. That is correct about the symlink. menu.lst is the symlink; grub.conf has the actual data. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 sounds right to me.. This was not mentioned in the gentoo handbook.. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 but that is not the first error that I have found in the text. about winblows? well, I put that on another hd (/dev/hdb1) because bill likes to hog the MBR. Getting it to boot from a Linux bootloader is not a big deal because I only use it to test and play games that do not run well on Linux. Its also good to have around to use with wine/winex. I amended my grub.conf with the appropriate changes and it still doesn't work... so I just ran a /sbin/lilo and got rid of grub for the moment.. thanks for all the help. Tom Weeks wrote: >On Monday 28 February 2005 10:25 pm, Oracle Nine wrote: > > >>on my system /boot/grub/grub.conf is symlinked to menu.lst. >> >> > >Hmm.. I thought both Red Hat and Gentoo used /boot/grub/grub.conf with the >menu.lst file being the symlink. > >Other problems that I saw were: >-Your kernel line did not mount your root fs as read only.. Should have looked >something like: > kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 >-Plus.. if you're running a windows system.. it (the C: drive) normally >resides on the first partition (or (dh0,0) ). So if you have both a Linux >and a Windows load on the same drive (assuming that XP is your first >partition), and your boot is hda2 (or hd0,1) and root is on hda3 (not 2), >then your first grub.conf stanza should look like this: > title=Linux 2.6.10-ac10 > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda3 > >-Make those changes, get the system running again, and then try "grub-install >/dev/hda" command. > >Tweeks > >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From fhuddles at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 12:42:57 2005 From: fhuddles at yahoo.com (Frank Huddleston) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:23:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation Message-ID: I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standar X Windows and XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the initial system installation or are going to install it from the network, using something like yum. But I have the set of four CDs which I installed from, so I figure I've got the rpms already. Which rpms do I install to install gnome? I installed a few likely-looking ones; here's the list: rpm -qa | grep -i gnome gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5 libgnome-2.8.0-2 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3 openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7 libgnomecups-0.1.12-5 libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2 gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8 libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1 libgnomeui-2.8.0-1 gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3 gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3 libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1 gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1 gnome-python2-2.6.0-3 up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5 In /etc/X11/xinit/XClients, it looks as though GNOME is the preferred and default desktop, and indeed it is specified as such in /etc/sysconfig/desktop. But all I get is xterm, xclock, and mozilla - looks like plain old X to me. I ran "gdmsetup" and it did change some things in the logon screen, etc., but not my desktop. gdm seems to be running: 2469 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon 4053 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon 4062 ? S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 So what can you fellows tell me? What should I do to get the Gnome desktop? Thanks - Frank Huddleston From scarolan at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 13:29:14 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue Mar 1 13:09:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <277020fc050301112932e89526@mail.gmail.com> Frank: What are you using to keep your system up to date? I use yum because it is easy and straightforward. If you're using yum all you have to do is type the following at a command prompt: # yum install gnome-desktop This command, of course, must be run as the root user. Yum then does all the magic of finding what dependencies are needed, fetching, downloading, and installing everything. Then you should have gnome desktop installed. From mikeaw at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 15:15:35 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:55:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux + Digital Camera Message-ID: <4154519d0503011315396a4f95@mail.gmail.com> I'm in the market for a new a computer and also in the market for a digital camera. What do I need to look for on both sides to make sure everything is compatible and works? I'm basically clueless about the issues concerning digital camers since I haven't needed to know until now. Are there any particular warnings or things I should know before making hardware/camera purchases? -Mike From mspieth at teamcmi.com Tue Mar 1 15:23:02 2005 From: mspieth at teamcmi.com (Mark Spieth) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:03:06 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux + Digital Camera In-Reply-To: <4154519d0503011315396a4f95@mail.gmail.com> References: <4154519d0503011315396a4f95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1109712181.5275.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Most digital cameras use a removable memory card, so as long as you get an external card reader you should be all set no matter what camera you buy (assuming you shoot in jpg mode) You can also check out gphoto.net if you want one that is supported under gtkam. But really all you need is an external card reader. On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:15, Mike Wallace wrote: > I'm in the market for a new a computer and also in the market for a > digital camera. What do I need to look for on both sides to make sure > everything is compatible and works? I'm basically clueless about the > issues concerning digital camers since I haven't needed to know until > now. Are there any particular warnings or things I should know before > making hardware/camera purchases? > > -Mike > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 16:34:04 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:13:51 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Quick iptables question Message-ID: <79ec289f050301143428c2e970@mail.gmail.com> When using iptables rules, how does iptables handle virtual interfaces? -- Jeremy From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Mar 1 17:00:30 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:37:13 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Quick iptables question In-Reply-To: <79ec289f050301143428c2e970@mail.gmail.com> References: <79ec289f050301143428c2e970@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1109718030.14212.4.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 16:34 -0600, Jeremy Mann wrote: > When using iptables rules, how does iptables handle virtual interfaces? You mean like eth0:0? Just like any other interface. Can you give a little more info cause I feel like I am not understanding what you mean... Thomas From jeremymann at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 16:58:22 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:38:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Quick iptables question In-Reply-To: <4224F157.70908@syn-recon.net> References: <79ec289f050301143428c2e970@mail.gmail.com> <4224F157.70908@syn-recon.net> Message-ID: <79ec289f050301145858312984@mail.gmail.com> Oh good. I wasn't thrilled about the idea of rewriting the firewall and adding ALL those virtual IPs ;) On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:48:55 -0600, pandemic@syn-recon.net wrote: > Jeremy Mann wrote: > > When using iptables rules, how does iptables handle virtual interfaces? > > > > > > > > > it just see's the physical so even if you have eth0:1 eth0:2 etc it all > falls under eth0, if you try to do a -A INPUT -i eth0:1 -j ACCEPT or > something like that iptables will spit out a syntax error. > > Florian > -- Jeremy From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Mar 1 17:03:14 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:39:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 12:42 -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: > I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standar X Windows and > XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE > afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've > seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the > initial system installation or are going to install it from the > network, using something like yum. But I have the set of four CDs which > I installed from, so I figure I've got the rpms already. Which rpms do > I install to install gnome? I installed a few likely-looking ones; > here's the list: > rpm -qa | grep -i gnome > gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5 > libgnome-2.8.0-2 > gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3 > openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7 > libgnomecups-0.1.12-5 > libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2 > gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8 > libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1 > libgnomeui-2.8.0-1 > gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3 > gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3 > libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1 > gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 > gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1 > gnome-python2-2.6.0-3 > up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5 > > In /etc/X11/xinit/XClients, it looks as though GNOME is the preferred > and default desktop, and indeed it is specified as such in > /etc/sysconfig/desktop. But all I get is xterm, xclock, and mozilla - > looks like plain old X to me. I ran "gdmsetup" and it did change some > things in the logon screen, etc., but not my desktop. gdm seems to be > running: > 2469 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > 4053 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > 4062 ? S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth > /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 > > So what can you fellows tell me? What should I do to get the Gnome > desktop? > > Thanks - > > Frank Huddleston IIRC you want: yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment" or maybe just: yum groupinstall GNOME Thomas From fhuddles at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 17:10:59 2005 From: fhuddles at yahoo.com (Frank Huddleston) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:51:31 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> References: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> On Mar 1, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 12:42 -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: >> I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standar X Windows and >> XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE >> afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've >> seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the >> initial system installation or are going to install it from the >> network, using something like yum. But I have the set of four CDs >> which >> I installed from, so I figure I've got the rpms already. Which rpms do >> I install to install gnome? I installed a few likely-looking ones; >> here's the list: >> rpm -qa | grep -i gnome >> gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5 >> libgnome-2.8.0-2 >> gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3 >> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7 >> libgnomecups-0.1.12-5 >> libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2 >> gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8 >> libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1 >> libgnomeui-2.8.0-1 >> gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3 >> gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3 >> libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1 >> gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 >> gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1 >> gnome-python2-2.6.0-3 >> up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5 >> >> In /etc/X11/xinit/XClients, it looks as though GNOME is the preferred >> and default desktop, and indeed it is specified as such in >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop. But all I get is xterm, xclock, and mozilla - >> looks like plain old X to me. I ran "gdmsetup" and it did change some >> things in the logon screen, etc., but not my desktop. gdm seems to be >> running: >> 2469 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon >> 4053 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon >> 4062 ? S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth >> /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 >> >> So what can you fellows tell me? What should I do to get the Gnome >> desktop? >> >> Thanks - >> >> Frank Huddleston > > IIRC you want: > > yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment" > > or maybe just: > > yum groupinstall GNOME > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > Yes, but I would like to install gnome from the CDs I already have, if possible. Frank H. From chuck at tetlow.net Tue Mar 1 18:25:36 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:05:20 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> References: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109723137.1101.340.camel@laptop> WHY??? Installing it with YUM gets you the latest versions of each package. That way, you don't have to update your system afterward. And you know you have the correct version of each package because YUM checks that. Besides, to do it from the CDs -- you've got to make up a list of everything needed and then install the packages one at a time. I don't know of any way to get YUM to pull from a local source. Does anyone else know??? Chuck On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 17:10, Frank Huddleston wrote: On Mar 1, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 12:42 -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: >> I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standar X Windows and >> XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE >> afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've >> seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the >> initial system installation or are going to install it from the >> network, using something like yum. But I have the set of four CDs >> which >> I installed from, so I figure I've got the rpms already. Which rpms do >> I install to install gnome? I installed a few likely-looking ones; >> here's the list: >> rpm -qa | grep -i gnome >> gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5 >> libgnome-2.8.0-2 >> gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3 >> openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7 >> libgnomecups-0.1.12-5 >> libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2 >> gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8 >> libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1 >> libgnomeui-2.8.0-1 >> gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3 >> gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3 >> libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1 >> gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 >> gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1 >> gnome-python2-2.6.0-3 >> up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5 >> >> In /etc/X11/xinit/XClients, it looks as though GNOME is the preferred >> and default desktop, and indeed it is specified as such in >> /etc/sysconfig/desktop. But all I get is xterm, xclock, and mozilla - >> looks like plain old X to me. I ran "gdmsetup" and it did change some >> things in the logon screen, etc., but not my desktop. gdm seems to be >> running: >> 2469 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon >> 4053 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon >> 4062 ? S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth >> /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 >> >> So what can you fellows tell me? What should I do to get the Gnome >> desktop? >> >> Thanks - >> >> Frank Huddleston > > IIRC you want: > > yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment" > > or maybe just: > > yum groupinstall GNOME > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > Yes, but I would like to install gnome from the CDs I already have, if possible. Frank H. _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From scs at worldlinkisp.com Tue Mar 1 18:48:46 2005 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (Louis Warnholtz) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:40:43 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Installing Gnome after system installation Message-ID: <200503011848460420.000B7F43@mail.worldlinkisp.com> Caveat: I've never used Fedora, I do play with WB (White Box) and would think package management should be somewhat similar. In WB you merely go to system settings, then click on " Add / Remove Applications, then go to desktops and click on Gnome and it shoud tell you what CD #'s to put in your drive. Use of YUM as recommended is viable, contingent on a decent high bandwith connection. Lastly, you could have merely re-installed Fedora (being sure to select Gnome) and been good to go in less than a half hour depending on your processor speed. From yatinhat at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 17:06:29 2005 From: yatinhat at yahoo.com (Mary Yatti) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:46:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <200503020041.j220fAY01410@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> RFID is being used to spy on people. http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html From yatinhat at yahoo.com Tue Mar 1 17:07:46 2005 From: yatinhat at yahoo.com (Mary Yatti) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:47:30 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: spychips In-Reply-To: <200503020041.j220fAY01410@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.boycottgillette.com/spychips.html From jjsa at gvtc.com Tue Mar 1 19:52:05 2005 From: jjsa at gvtc.com (Jim Johannsen) Date: Tue Mar 1 19:22:11 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux + Digital Camera In-Reply-To: <4154519d0503011315396a4f95@mail.gmail.com> References: <4154519d0503011315396a4f95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42251C45.9050600@gvtc.com> Keep it easy, just get a cf card reader. Then their are no compatibility issues. Also get the latest version of gimp. Mike Wallace wrote: >I'm in the market for a new a computer and also in the market for a >digital camera. What do I need to look for on both sides to make sure >everything is compatible and works? I'm basically clueless about the >issues concerning digital camers since I haven't needed to know until >now. Are there any particular warnings or things I should know before >making hardware/camera purchases? > >-Mike >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > From dean.mccall at nvision2020.com Tue Mar 1 20:17:13 2005 From: dean.mccall at nvision2020.com (Dean McCall) Date: Tue Mar 1 19:56:48 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Job Opportunity...in San Antonio Message-ID: <200503020156.j221uiY01770@alamo.satlug.org> High Performance Computing Administrator An individual is needed to administrator the High Performance Computing (HPC) system of the Joint Bioinformatics/Computational Biology Program at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio and the University of Texas at San Antonio. This is a new facility and is a ground floor opportunity for the correct individual with experience in HPC design, configuration, and administration. This individual should have a strong working knowledge of several of the following: UNIX/Linux HPC clusters, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, hardware installation and configuration, PVM, MPI, grid engine software, backup systems, network switches, UNIX/Linux shell scripts or Perl, C or C++. The individual will be appointed to the UTHSCSA title of Software System Specialist III with salary based on education and experience. This title requires a minimum of 3 years experience with a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related field. Additional education may be substituted for experience. -- James M. Bower PhD Chairman of the Board and CEO Numedeon Inc. Founders of Whyville.net Please respond to jim@numedeon.com Dean McCall President/ CEO South Central Texas Chapter of the Internet Society www.Salsa.net 210.422.9255 From me at jchampion.com Tue Mar 1 21:33:12 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (John Champion) Date: Tue Mar 1 21:12:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c51ed8$8fc9bf60$0200a8c0@blackhole1> yes they are but more menacing are all the products you don't know about... here's a list of the sponsors for MIT's auto-id center (which is now closed). http://www.spychips.com/rfid_sponsors.html these chips are in everything. exxon speedpasses, central market shopper cards, cvs pharmacy cards, and even diapers. and then there is house bill 418 which will mandate that all states include them in their driver's licenses. visa is pushing for these chips to be included embedded on their cards and the list goes on and on. oh yea...the casino's in vegas are looking at implanting these chips into their chips to prevent counterfeiting. the e.u. has these embedded in their currency, the u.s. is considering it and the state department wants all passports to have these chips in them. wal-mart has mandated that all their suppliers have these included by may of this year and target is also looking at this. there are subdermal chips which some misguided people have had injected into their arms. in spain and ireland, club-goers use these implanted chips to pay for their beverage orders without opening their wallet. to some it may sound like revelations 13 verses 15 & 16, although i will reserve judgement on that for now. i just finished a very lengthy paper on the topic. if you have any questions about this stuff...fire away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Yatti" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) > RFID is being used to spy on people. > > http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.3 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 > > From dean.mccall at nvision2020.com Tue Mar 1 22:53:20 2005 From: dean.mccall at nvision2020.com (Dean McCall) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:32:49 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] RE: Job Opportunity...in San Antonio Message-ID: <200503020432.j224WkY02295@alamo.satlug.org> I was just advised to direct inquiries to HR department at UTHSCSA _____ From: Dean McCall [mailto:dean.mccall@nvision2020.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:17 PM To: 'The San Antonio Linux User's GroupMailing List'; 'xcssa@xcssa.org' Subject: Job Opportunity...in San Antonio High Performance Computing Administrator An individual is needed to administrator the High Performance Computing (HPC) system of the Joint Bioinformatics/Computational Biology Program at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio and the University of Texas at San Antonio. This is a new facility and is a ground floor opportunity for the correct individual with experience in HPC design, configuration, and administration. This individual should have a strong working knowledge of several of the following: UNIX/Linux HPC clusters, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, hardware installation and configuration, PVM, MPI, grid engine software, backup systems, network switches, UNIX/Linux shell scripts or Perl, C or C++. The individual will be appointed to the UTHSCSA title of Software System Specialist III with salary based on education and experience. This title requires a minimum of 3 years experience with a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or related field. Additional education may be substituted for experience. -- James M. Bower PhD Chairman of the Board and CEO Numedeon Inc. Founders of Whyville.net Please respond to jim@numedeon.com Dean McCall President/ CEO South Central Texas Chapter of the Internet Society www.Salsa.net 210.422.9255 From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Tue Mar 1 23:17:15 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:53:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> References: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109740635.14212.29.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 17:10 -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: > Yes, but I would like to install gnome from the CDs I already have, if > possible. > > Frank H. Eeeew, yuck. But if you insist maybe modify your /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo file to point to a local filesystem (hint - man yum.conf and look for baseurl)? Copy the RedHat directory off of all four install CDs to your local hard drive and point at that. Thomas From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Tue Mar 1 23:49:54 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Mar 1 23:29:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with Boot Loaders In-Reply-To: <42248628.6030207@bluebottle.com> References: <42231F6E.8060707@bluebottle.com> <200503010017.35174.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <42248628.6030207@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <200503012349.54764.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:11 am, Oracle Nine wrote: > Sorry. That is correct about the symlink. menu.lst is the symlink; > grub.conf has the actual data. > > kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 Try pointing to the REAL kernel name instead of the symlink (vmlinuz). Tweeks From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Wed Mar 2 00:12:29 2005 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Tue Mar 1 23:52:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200503020012.29958.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:42 pm, Frank Huddleston wrote: > I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standard X Windows and > XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE > afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've > seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the > initial system installation or are going to install it from the > network, That's the preferred way Frank. Manually weeking through RPMs (aka "RPM Hell") was the old way... In fact.. I just did a total Fedora install over the internet. Simply by using the boot CD (#1) and pointing it to one of the faster FTP mirrors and my new 6Mbps RR connection (weeee!): http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html I installed it.. and updated it all without anything but a single boot CD. Then simply import all the approved the GPG Keys: # for i in $(locate GPG | grep rhn) ; do > rpm --import $i > done And update your system from on line: # up2date -u and for the kernel stuff: #up2date -if kernel kernel-utils kernel-doc Then.. if you want Gnome installed... Simply install a couple upper level gnome packages that will require all the gnome deps underpinnings: # up2date --i gnome-pilot gnome-games gnome-themes gnome-desktop And that will pull down the several dozed deps packages. To see what's available... look at ALL RPMs available with: # up2date --showall > RPM-showall-list.txt and just grep that file for whatever package you want and any given time. And yum is even cooler to use than up2date. :) Hope that helps.. Tweeks From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Wed Mar 2 02:15:21 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Wed Mar 2 01:52:01 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: <200503020012.29958.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <200503020012.29958.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <1109751321.14212.41.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 00:12 -0600, Tom Weeks wrote: > my new 6Mbps RR connection (weeee!): Oh, how I hate you Tom. I really, really hate you. :-) Up here in Austin, I called my RR Business Class rep and asked about this higher speed stuff. Looks like I can get it as a business class user for oh, about $150/month. TC From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Wed Mar 2 02:16:31 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Wed Mar 2 01:53:08 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: <1109740635.14212.29.camel@mail.camerontech.com> References: <1109718194.14212.7.camel@mail.camerontech.com> <05e29ee2acac96cc2135ddb12d98c7d9@yahoo.com> <1109740635.14212.29.camel@mail.camerontech.com> Message-ID: <1109751391.14212.43.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:17 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > Copy the RedHat directory I'm sorry, that was supposed to be the Fedora directory. I've been dealing with RHEL a BUNCH lately and had it on the brain. Thomas From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 09:02:43 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 08:42:36 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> Quoting Mary Yatti : > RFID is being used to spy on people. > > http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > How can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or at home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am sure that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out there. Walt From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 09:07:29 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 08:47:13 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: spychips In-Reply-To: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109776049.4225d6b1710ee@webmail.texas.net> Quoting Mary Yatti : > http://www.boycottgillette.com/spychips.html So wear a ski mask, mask or nylon hose over your face. Or make a silly face or rude jester when you remove the package. The RFID is generally removed and put in the dumper when you get home. Of course you could take off the RFID tag as you leave the store then go back in and put it in a store dumper near the checkout stand...wouldn't that be a hoot. Walt From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 09:09:39 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 08:49:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: spychips In-Reply-To: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109776179.4225d733ba783@webmail.texas.net> Quoting Mary Yatti : > http://www.boycottgillette.com/spychips.html Another thought...wear a ski mask and take all the razors out of the bin then remove your ski mask and take them to various checkout lines and after they are scanned, tell the checkout clerk that you have decided that you don't want the item. Walt From pac at fortuitous.com Wed Mar 2 09:24:17 2005 From: pac at fortuitous.com (Phil Carinhas) Date: Wed Mar 2 09:03:56 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] For sale: Nikon CoolScan film scanner and 2 12-12 UPS batteries In-Reply-To: <52a4a471df4f1938a6f2b40afccc2bf2@yahoo.com> References: <20050225040310.GA13917@mail.fortuitous.com> <52a4a471df4f1938a6f2b40afccc2bf2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050302152417.GC12349@mail.fortuitous.com> On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:45:39AM -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: > I'm interested, but can you tell me what model Coolscan it is? It's gone already. -P .--------------------------------------------------------. | Philip A. Carinhas | http://fortuitous.com | | Fortuitous Technologies | Linux Consulting & Training | `--------------------------------------------------------' From scarolan at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 09:36:16 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Wed Mar 2 09:16:00 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Sendmail -f flag? Message-ID: <277020fc050302073628f6841f@mail.gmail.com> I'm getting authentication warnings from sendmail that look like this: Authentication warnings: aalaniz set sender to ariel@medicalresourceusa.com using -f: 10 Time(s) bdavis set sender to bdavis@medicalresourceusa.com using -f: 2 Time(s) Can this cause problems? We use the -f flag because the email address is different than the username and machine's hostname. From me at jchampion.com Wed Mar 2 10:07:26 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (me@jchampion.com) Date: Wed Mar 2 09:58:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: <1109779646.4225e4be42883@webmail.jchampion.com> Quoting dubose@texas.net: > Quoting Mary Yatti : > > > RFID is being used to spy on people. > > > > http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > How can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or at > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am sure > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out there. > > Walt > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > hi walt, sure...you can easily remove the chips you know about but some of these critters are .3 of a millimeter wide. they can be and are embedded in uniroyal tires. you're certainly not going to rip your tires apart looking for it. some researchers at MIT are looking at creating a blocker chip technology which would basically create a radio cloud of noise around you which could effectly make your tags indiscernable. but the thing you must watch out for are the marketing types who will abuse the technology. there is already records of people doing that currently. it's simple to do and all you need is a scanner/reader, software, and a database to store your data in. and some of these little tags can be read as far away as 90 ft from where you're standing. the no chips group is an off-shoot of a group cofounded by katherine albrecht. they believe that these chips are the mark of the beast foretold in the book of revelations. some folks discount them as crackpots but they do raise some valid questions for consumers regarding their rights. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From cilorentson at devtex.net Wed Mar 2 10:19:56 2005 From: cilorentson at devtex.net (Chuck Lorentson) Date: Wed Mar 2 09:59:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] "screening downloads"???? if this has been asked b4,please excuse, cl. Message-ID: <4225E7AC.1070509@devtex.net> Ok, first, it takes a 'bit of courage' to ask this question on THIS site/org. Cause U guys almost "knowitall", so when you get these "kindergarden questions" please b considerate. You guys talk over my head 99% of the time, but it IS real nice to have a 'place to go to ask, and get real answers'. So, thanks inadvance. I just received a long download/attachment from a friend, and while it was downloading (dialup IS slow) I was wondering is there someway of _previewing/knowing/checking out a download before it is completed?????_ I have setup 99% of my 'incoming email' to go thur filters, but it would be nice/advantageous if someone could_ look at the '''source''' of a download_, and if you don't recognize/know the source,,,, than kill/delete. Kinda like 'screening phone calls with a answering machine.??????? 73 cl. From me at jchampion.com Wed Mar 2 10:11:04 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (me@jchampion.com) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:01:48 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: spychips In-Reply-To: <1109776049.4225d6b1710ee@webmail.texas.net> References: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> <1109776049.4225d6b1710ee@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: <1109779864.4225e5981e040@webmail.jchampion.com> Quoting dubose@texas.net: > Quoting Mary Yatti : > > > http://www.boycottgillette.com/spychips.html > > So wear a ski mask, mask or nylon hose over your face. Or make a silly face > or rude jester when you remove the package. > > The RFID is generally removed and put in the dumper when you get home. > > Of course you could take off the RFID tag as you leave the store then go back > in and put it in a store dumper near the checkout stand...wouldn't that be a > hoot. > > Walt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > hi again, it doesn't work this way. it's not the chips that you can see that are problematic, it's the ones you don't see. yes you can easily find the ones on packaging and just disgard the packaging. it's the ones that the government is going to start mandating that you carry on your for identification that's the problem. it's also the ones that visa is going to start forcing their users to carry with them that could be a problem. i'm sure most people don't care or don't want to know about this stuff but the bottom line is that these things are out there and they use is going to escalate. and fwiw...i'm still reserving judgement on these things because i can see the good. it's the abuse of the technology that has me concerned. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From rwegner at satx.rr.com Wed Mar 2 10:31:36 2005 From: rwegner at satx.rr.com (Richard Wegner) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:11:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Wine Message-ID: <4225DC58.1070503@satx.rr.com> Hi there, I am currently having some problems with my wine application. I installed one of the latest version of wine (released sometime at the end of the last year) on my Mandrake system and it will NOT run ANY Windows applications. I used to be able to run Quicktime and some games but now all I get is the busy icon and nothing. BTW, my version is 10.1 Community for Mandrake. From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 11:08:14 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:47:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109779646.4225e4be42883@webmail.jchampion.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109779646.4225e4be42883@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: <1109783294.4225f2fe3c75d@webmail.texas.net> Tires are a good example but as much as tires are changed, of what good is it other than to say the same tire goes over the same road every day. Also, I'd bet that road heat and electro static input from the road will kill a chip in a few weeks/days. I have seen measurements of between 50-90 KV beteen the inside and outside of a tire moving along a hot highway at 60 MPH. RE: 666. It implies that that type of identification will be used and for what purpose, not that it isn't in use now. But why not a simple mark? no reader is needed...just make everyone get stamped like you do when you go into some fleamarkets? Are you a Bible Scholar? If so you and I and Don Wright ought to have coffee sometime. Also, do you know about the Texas Baptist Men's Disaster Relief Program? And you don't have to be a card carrying Baptist to be part of it. We need Linux computer programmers/system administrators, etc. Quoting me@jchampion.com: > Quoting dubose@texas.net: > > > Quoting Mary Yatti : > > > > > RFID is being used to spy on people. > > > > > > http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > > How can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or > at > > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am > sure > > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out > there. > > > > Walt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > hi walt, > > sure...you can easily remove the chips you know about but some of these > critters > are .3 of a millimeter wide. they can be and are embedded in uniroyal > tires. > you're certainly not going to rip your tires apart looking for it. > > some researchers at MIT are looking at creating a blocker chip technology > which > would basically create a radio cloud of noise around you which could > effectly > make your tags indiscernable. > > but the thing you must watch out for are the marketing types who will abuse > the > technology. > > there is already records of people doing that currently. it's simple to do > and > all you need is a scanner/reader, software, and a database to store your > data > in. > > and some of these little tags can be read as far away as 90 ft from where > you're > standing. > > the no chips group is an off-shoot of a group cofounded by katherine > albrecht. > they believe that these chips are the mark of the beast foretold in the > book of > revelations. > > some folks discount them as crackpots but they do raise some valid > questions for > consumers regarding their rights. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 11:12:19 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:52:02 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: spychips In-Reply-To: <1109779864.4225e5981e040@webmail.jchampion.com> References: <20050302010747.31691.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> <1109776049.4225d6b1710ee@webmail.texas.net> <1109779864.4225e5981e040@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: <1109783539.4225f3f379dc1@webmail.texas.net> Quoting me@jchampion.com: > Quoting dubose@texas.net: > it doesn't work this way. it's not the chips that you can see that are > problematic, it's the ones you don't see. > > yes you can easily find the ones on packaging and just disgard the > packaging. > > it's the ones that the government is going to start mandating that you > carry on > your for identification that's the problem. it's also the ones that visa > is > going to start forcing their users to carry with them that could be a > problem. > > i'm sure most people don't care or don't want to know about this stuff but > the > bottom line is that these things are out there and they use is going to > escalate. > > and fwiw...i'm still reserving judgement on these things because i can see > the > good. it's the abuse of the technology that has me concerned. > > I have one in my wallet now but its wrapped in copper foil. You can't read it with a scanner unless you take it out of the foil. Othniel and I had them when we worked at Kelly in Bldg 200...it allowed us to open doors, etc. I have one of those now and I keep it wrapped in foil so when I pass by a certain door it doesn't open when I don't want it to. But no doubt, some folks will abuse good/helpful technology...they always do. Walt From chuck at tetlow.net Wed Mar 2 11:46:41 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Wed Mar 2 11:26:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or at home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am sure that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out there. Walt _______________________________________________ The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today use either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- their systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. Especially if you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into your privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising Viagra and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing that all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many wifes want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying MegaPacks of extra large tampons??? Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those RFID chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like walking into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your shoes identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). Or taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair shop that won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from birth to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how you bought it. Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture -- so they're not going to get it! Chuck From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 11:57:14 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 11:36:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> Well not you just opened up another can of worms. I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz ECM transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA X-Ray machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator degauser. If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and go live in West Texas. Walt Quoting Chuck : > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or > at > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am > sure > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out > there. > > Walt > > _______________________________________________ > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today use > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- their > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. Especially if > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into your > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising Viagra > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing that > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many wifes > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying MegaPacks > of extra large tampons??? > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those RFID > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like walking > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your shoes > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). Or > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair shop that > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from birth > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how you > bought it. > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > From chuck at tetlow.net Wed Mar 2 12:09:15 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Wed Mar 2 11:48:55 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people you don't like -- I might join you! Chuck On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: Well not you just opened up another can of worms. I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz ECM transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA X-Ray machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator degauser. If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and go live in West Texas. Walt Quoting Chuck : > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car or > at > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I am > sure > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken out > there. > > Walt > > _______________________________________________ > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today use > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- their > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. Especially if > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into your > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising Viagra > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing that > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many wifes > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying MegaPacks > of extra large tampons??? > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those RFID > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like walking > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your shoes > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). Or > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair shop that > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from birth > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how you > bought it. > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From scarolan at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 12:17:28 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Wed Mar 2 11:57:11 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] mySQL monitor? Message-ID: <277020fc05030210174fc93aa5@mail.gmail.com> Every so often mysqld eats up all our CPU cycles. Sometimes this can cause other programs to run slowly. It usually resolves itself within a few minutes, but I would like to track down the exact query to the database that is causing this. Any ideas? From chuck at tetlow.net Wed Mar 2 12:23:32 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:03:12 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Question about DSL service Message-ID: <1109787813.14053.436.camel@laptop> Hey guys, I want to take a quick poll among people who know what they're talking about. Especially you guys who have been bitchin' about the problems running an e-mail server at your house. As most of you know, I'm helping out a small business here in SA that is an ISP and full service computer service store. One of the ISP services they provide is DSL using SBC phone lines. SBC drops the line at the business/home, pipes the ATM Permanent Virtual Circuit to us, and we provide the Internet connectivity. One of the biggest bitches I have these days is the DNS schemes the big ISPs are going to lately. If you do a reverse lookup on the IP I get from RoadRunner -- you see "res" in the name, short for residential. That promptly means that a good number of servers on the Internet aren't going to accept e-mail connections from my server as they try to protect themselves from SPAM. Or there is something indicating a dynamic IP in the reverse name -- again you don't get thru. I was wondering how valuable it would be to have an ISP that would work with their customers. How about DSL service with a single static real-world IP and whatever reverse name you want to put on it. Do you guys think that is something that would be in demand? I'm just thinking about the problems that have come up on this list that I might be able to fix. This company is very open to new ideas and in fact, is the one that has provided us with the brand new demo computer for Computer Blasts. If there is an on-going problem that other providers are not willing to fix, I might be able to do something about it thru this provider. What'a ya think guys? Are there any irritating complaints about your DSL provider that you want to mention? If its something I can fix (like a simple DNS name), it might be worth our time to look into providing that fix. Chuck From me at jchampion.com Wed Mar 2 12:21:17 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (me@jchampion.com) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:12:04 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into putting those chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. Quoting Chuck : > As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people you don't like -- I > might join you! > > Chuck > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: > > Well not you just opened up another can of worms. > > I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz ECM > transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA X-Ray > machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator degauser. > > If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and go > live > in West Texas. > > Walt > > Quoting Chuck : > > > > > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car > or > > at > > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I > am > > sure > > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken > out > > there. > > > > Walt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today use > > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- their > > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. Especially if > > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into your > > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising Viagra > > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing that > > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many wifes > > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying MegaPacks > > of extra large tampons??? > > > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those RFID > > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like walking > > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your shoes > > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). Or > > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair shop > that > > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet > > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from birth > > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how you > > bought it. > > > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I > > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those > > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or > > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture > > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From dubose at texas.net Wed Mar 2 12:37:00 2005 From: dubose at texas.net (dubose@texas.net) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:16:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: <1109788620.422607ccea763@webmail.texas.net> Putting a $0.25 RFID in a $1 bill doesn't make much sense. A $20 maybe and $50s and $100s sure. Also, as much as bills go through, I'm betting that the life is less than 2 weeks. That is unless its a "chipless" RFID and then it won't give you much more information than the bill's s/n and domination. Quoting me@jchampion.com: > you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into putting > those > chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. > > so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. > > > > Quoting Chuck : > > > As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people you don't like -- I > > might join you! > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: > > > > Well not you just opened up another can of worms. > > > > I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz > ECM > > transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA > X-Ray > > machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator > degauser. > > > > If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and > go > > live > > in West Texas. > > > > Walt > > > > Quoting Chuck : > > > > > > > > > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my > car > > or > > > at > > > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > > > > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the > trash. I > > am > > > sure > > > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was > taken > > out > > > there. > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today > use > > > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- > their > > > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. > Especially if > > > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into > your > > > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising > Viagra > > > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing > that > > > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many > wifes > > > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying > MegaPacks > > > of extra large tampons??? > > > > > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those > RFID > > > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like > walking > > > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your > shoes > > > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). > Or > > > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair > shop > > that > > > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet > > > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from > birth > > > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how > you > > > bought it. > > > > > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that > I > > > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for > those > > > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > > > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. > Or > > > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > > > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my > picture > > > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > From me at jchampion.com Wed Mar 2 12:58:44 2005 From: me at jchampion.com (me@jchampion.com) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:49:29 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109788620.422607ccea763@webmail.texas.net> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> <1109788620.422607ccea763@webmail.texas.net> Message-ID: <1109789924.42260ce47f613@webmail.jchampion.com> you're right but 1) we're talking about the federal government. last i checked they did the things that don't make sense 2) the chips that would be used only cost about 3? each Quoting dubose@texas.net: > Putting a $0.25 RFID in a $1 bill doesn't make much sense. A $20 maybe and > $50s and $100s sure. > > Also, as much as bills go through, I'm betting that the life is less than 2 > weeks. > > That is unless its a "chipless" RFID and then it won't give you much more > information than the bill's s/n and domination. > > > Quoting me@jchampion.com: > > > you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into putting > > those > > chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. > > > > so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. > > > > > > > > Quoting Chuck : > > > > > As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people you don't like -- I > > > might join you! > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: > > > > > > Well not you just opened up another can of worms. > > > > > > I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz > > ECM > > > transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA > > X-Ray > > > machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator > > degauser. > > > > > > If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and > > go > > > live > > > in West Texas. > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > Quoting Chuck : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my > > car > > > or > > > > at > > > > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. > > > > > > > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the > > trash. I > > > am > > > > sure > > > > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was > > taken > > > out > > > > there. > > > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today > > use > > > > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- > > their > > > > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. > > Especially if > > > > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into > > your > > > > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising > > Viagra > > > > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing > > that > > > > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many > > wifes > > > > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying > > MegaPacks > > > > of extra large tampons??? > > > > > > > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those > > RFID > > > > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like > > walking > > > > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your > > shoes > > > > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). > > Or > > > > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair > > shop > > > that > > > > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet > > > > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from > > birth > > > > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how > > you > > > > bought it. > > > > > > > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that > > I > > > > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for > > those > > > > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > > > > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. > > Or > > > > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > > > > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my > > picture > > > > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From lug at eth0.us Wed Mar 2 14:49:48 2005 From: lug at eth0.us (John) Date: Wed Mar 2 13:29:46 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] mySQL monitor? In-Reply-To: <277020fc05030210174fc93aa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200503021929.j22JThY07702@alamo.satlug.org> Take a look at mtop. http://freshmeat.net/redir/mtop/20462/url_homepage/mtop.sourceforge.net -John -----Original Message----- From: Sean Carolan [mailto:scarolan@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:17 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: [SATLUG] mySQL monitor? Every so often mysqld eats up all our CPU cycles. Sometimes this can cause other programs to run slowly. It usually resolves itself within a few minutes, but I would like to track down the exact query to the database that is causing this. Any ideas? _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug From cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com Wed Mar 2 14:01:55 2005 From: cd_satl at futuretechsolutions.com (Charles D Hogan) Date: Wed Mar 2 13:41:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) me@jchampion.com wrote: >you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into putting those >chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. > >so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. > > > >Quoting Chuck : > > > >>As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people you don't like -- I >>might join you! >> >>Chuck >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: >> >> Well not you just opened up another can of worms. >> >> I guess I'll have to start nuking those items with my 50 KW, 10 GHz ECM >> transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap them with my 150 KVA X-Ray >> machine and finally zapping them with my old auto generator degauser. >> >> If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, make my own shoes and go >>live >> in West Texas. >> >> Walt >> >> Quoting Chuck : >> >> > >> > >> > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out of the store, in my car >>or >> > at >> > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my car or at my house. >> > >> > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed and put in the trash. I >>am >> > sure >> > that the city dump would go wild if an RFID tage reader was taken >>out >> > there. >> > >> > Walt >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > >> > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How many people today use >> > either a credit card or check for payment? As soon as you do -- their >> > systems can tie the sale to a physical name and address. Especially if >> > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards that intrude into your >> > privacy so much. How would you like getting letters advertising Viagra >> > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of condoms? Or just knowing that >> > all these companies now know you were buying condoms? How many wifes >> > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing they are buying MegaPacks >> > of extra large tampons??? >> > >> > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about putting some of those RFID >> > chips into the actual products themselves. How would you like walking >> > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored since the RFID in your shoes >> > identified them as being sold through a discounter (or K-Mart). Or >> > taking your brand new electric shaver into a authorized repair shop >>that >> > won't fix it since it was sold through an unauthorized Internet >> > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can track every item from birth >> > to death -- they know its complete history AND who you are AND how you >> > bought it. >> > >> > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I >> > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those >> > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray >> > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or >> > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will >> > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture >> > -- so they're not going to get it! >> > >> > >> > Chuck >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SATLUG mailing list >> > SATLUG@satlug.org >> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SATLUG mailing list >> SATLUG@satlug.org >> >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > From yatinhat at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 12:07:30 2005 From: yatinhat at yahoo.com (Mary Yatti) Date: Wed Mar 2 13:47:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) (Chuck) In-Reply-To: <200503021800.j22I07Y07213@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050302200731.66904.qmail@web50102.mail.yahoo.com> Geez, I didn't mean to cause such paranoia about RFID in this group. But, I could sell you some land in West Texas. Nah, on second thought, I'm gonna keep the land, not shave my legs, not get my hair cut, not buy female products, and just breed cats for a living. Mary > 1. Re: OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) > (Chuck) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: 02 Mar 2005 12:09:15 -0600 > From: Chuck > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency > identification) > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing > List" > > Message-ID: <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain > > As long as you don't start mailing bombs to people > you don't like -- I > might join you! > > Chuck > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:57, dubose@texas.net wrote: > > Well not you just opened up another can of > worms. > > I guess I'll have to start nuking those items > with my 50 KW, 10 GHz ECM > transmitter that I bought surplus. Then zap > them with my 150 KVA X-Ray > machine and finally zapping them with my old > auto generator degauser. > > If that doesn't do it, I'll just grow a beard, > make my own shoes and go live > in West Texas. > > Walt > > Quoting Chuck : > > > > > > > ow can an RFID tag spy on me once I am out > of the store, in my car or > > at > > home? I don't have an RFID scanner in my > car or at my house. > > > > When I get home, any RFID tags are removed > and put in the trash. I am > > sure > > that the city dump would go wild if an > RFID tage reader was taken out > > there. > > > > Walt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > The danger Walt is at the checkout stand. How > many people today use > > either a credit card or check for payment? As > soon as you do -- their > > systems can tie the sale to a physical name > and address. Especially if > > you use one of those "preferred shopper" cards > that intrude into your > > privacy so much. How would you like getting > letters advertising Viagra > > and sex toys after purchasing a pack of > condoms? Or just knowing that > > all these companies now know you were buying > condoms? How many wifes > > want Walmart and all their suppliers knowing > they are buying MegaPacks > > of extra large tampons??? > > > > Plus, as mentioned -- they're talking about > putting some of those RFID > > chips into the actual products themselves. > How would you like walking > > into a high-end shoe store and be ignored > since the RFID in your shoes > > identified them as being sold through a > discounter (or K-Mart). Or > > taking your brand new electric shaver into a > authorized repair shop that > > won't fix it since it was sold through an > unauthorized Internet > > wholesaler? Think about it -- if they can > track every item from birth > > to death -- they know its complete history AND > who you are AND how you > > bought it. > > > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll > never buy anything that I > > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already > got a plan for those > > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small > cans of touch-up spray > > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm > going to paint the lens. Or > > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or > anything else that will > > obscure the lens. I didn't give them > authorization to take my picture > > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > > > > Chuck From chmims at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 14:28:36 2005 From: chmims at gmail.com (Charles Mims) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:08:15 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Installing Gnome after system installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e4edf580503021228645043e9@mail.gmail.com> >From the Applications menu select Add/Remove Applications from there you can select to install Gnome a/o KDE desktop environment from your FC3 CD's. On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:42:57 -0600, Frank Huddleston wrote: > I installed Fedora Core 3, but selected only the standar X Windows and > XFce at installation time. Now I'd like to get Gnome (and maybe KDE > afterwards) working. How do I do this? Most of the instructions I've > seen either assume that you've chosen to install Gnome along with the > initial system installation or are going to install it from the > network, using something like yum. But I have the set of four CDs which > I installed from, so I figure I've got the rpms already. Which rpms do > I install to install gnome? I installed a few likely-looking ones; > here's the list: > rpm -qa | grep -i gnome > gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5 > libgnome-2.8.0-2 > gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3 > openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7 > libgnomecups-0.1.12-5 > libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2 > gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8 > libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1 > libgnomeui-2.8.0-1 > gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3 > gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3 > libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1 > gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3 > gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1 > gnome-python2-2.6.0-3 > up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5 > > In /etc/X11/xinit/XClients, it looks as though GNOME is the preferred > and default desktop, and indeed it is specified as such in > /etc/sysconfig/desktop. But all I get is xterm, xclock, and mozilla - > looks like plain old X to me. I ran "gdmsetup" and it did change some > things in the logon screen, etc., but not my desktop. gdm seems to be > running: > 2469 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > 4053 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > 4062 ? S 0:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth > /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 > > So what can you fellows tell me? What should I do to get the Gnome > desktop? > > Thanks - > > Frank Huddleston > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 14:41:37 2005 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:21:47 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Cron emails working with rsync Message-ID: <128bff2f05030212413cdd2911@mail.gmail.com> I know a lot of you use rsync and cron to backup your filesystems. I have a question when CRON Emails me I get something like 100 files... 200 files... 300 files... 400 files... 500 files... 600 files... 700 files... 800 files... 900 files... 1000 files... 1100 files... 1200 files... 1300 files... 1400 files... 1500 files... 1600 files... 1700 files... 1800 files... 1900 files... 2000 files... 2100 files... 2200 files... 2300 files... 2400 files... 2500 files... 2600 files... all the way to 25900 files then the stats. All I want is the stats to show the number of files that have been backed up. I guess I could just turn off the verbose but then again I would get the status only if there was an error. Thanks Zeb From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 15:16:53 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:56:34 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Free stuff (unless you feel generous) Message-ID: <869de8470503021316dc3aab3@mail.gmail.com> Ok.. here's the deal. I need money to move out of San Antonio. I have a handful of Linux-ready computers, each averaging about a Pentium 100, 32 MB RAM and a 1G HD. They all have at least 1 NIC in them that is supported by Linux and is ready to be installed. I've tried selling them but no one wants to buy them so I'l going to give them away and hope that someone feels like donating to the cause. Amongst my 'treasures' I also have: a USB/Parallel backpack CD burner boxes of Cat-5 and Cat-3 phone cable (Most not full, but good for those quick runs) an assortment of SCSI cd roms (some requires caddies) an assortment of SCSI hard drives (probably about ~2G? I don't know) a LOT of floppy drives two or three BabyATX cases with power supplies. (if they dont' have one, I have extra power supplies.. :P ) at least three monitors that are in good working condition three Compaq computers a Mac (old one) at least 20 Pentium 75s, 100s, and 133 processors in boxes a Dual-Pentium Pro server (used to work, haven't diagnosed it yet) a Compaq Plasma monitor luggable computer (actually POSTs too) and other odds and ends. They either go to someone that will use them or they go to the nearest Goodwill or trash bin. I want them to go to someone on either SATLUG or the XCSSA lists. Satlug: Should I post this in satlug-etc? If you are interested, you can come by my house. You can call me at the following number: 210-392-4770 and I will give your my address. I should be there around 7ish. Thank you! FIRESTORM_v1 From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Wed Mar 2 15:32:06 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:08:42 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> Message-ID: <1109799126.14212.79.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:46 -0600, Chuck wrote: > > Anyway, do what you want. Personally, I'll never buy anything that I > know has RFID chips in them. And I've already got a plan for those > Gillette displays. I've got a couple small cans of touch-up spray > paint. If I see one of those cameras, I'm going to paint the lens. Or > use a permanent marker. Or vaseline. Or anything else that will > obscure the lens. I didn't give them authorization to take my picture > -- so they're not going to get it! > > > Chuck You do that and you are likely to be prosecuted for criminal mischief. You're on private property, they have every right to take your picture. You don't like, it you can go somewhere else. But you can't vandalize their property. Thomas From mikeaw at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 15:33:58 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:13:37 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] "screening downloads"???? if this has been asked b4,please excuse, cl. In-Reply-To: <4225E7AC.1070509@devtex.net> References: <4225E7AC.1070509@devtex.net> Message-ID: <4154519d05030213338c5e20@mail.gmail.com> Try to find an option in your email program such as "Fetch Headers Only" or something else along those lines. Such a setting will cause only the header of a message to be downloaded. You can then decide if you really want to download the rest of the message and its large attachments if there are any. -Mike P.S. This group is open to gurus and newbies alike. There are no "kindergarten questions," just "more advanced" and "less advanced." :-) On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:19:56 -0600, Chuck Lorentson wrote: > Ok, first, it takes a 'bit of courage' to ask this question on THIS > site/org. Cause U guys almost "knowitall", so when you get these > "kindergarden questions" please b considerate. You guys talk over my > head 99% of the time, but it IS real nice to have a 'place to go to ask, > and get real answers'. So, thanks inadvance. > I just received a long download/attachment from a friend, and while it > was downloading (dialup IS slow) I was wondering is there someway of > _previewing/knowing/checking out a download before it is > completed?????_ I have setup 99% of my 'incoming email' to go thur > filters, but it would be nice/advantageous if someone could_ look at the > '''source''' of a download_, and if you don't recognize/know the > source,,,, than kill/delete. Kinda like 'screening phone calls with a > answering machine.??????? 73 cl. > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From cwaye at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 2 15:17:00 2005 From: cwaye at sbcglobal.net (Chester Waye) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:56:39 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] usb mouse In-Reply-To: <200503021942.j22JgAY07827@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <20050302231700.60358.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com> I am using Mepis 3.3 and I can not get my usb mouse to work. I had Xandros installed earlier and my mouse did work with that distro. Can someone help me? -Chester From oracle9 at bluebottle.com Wed Mar 2 12:41:40 2005 From: oracle9 at bluebottle.com (Oracle Nine) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:18:21 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Problems with Boot Loaders In-Reply-To: <200503012349.54764.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <42231F6E.8060707@bluebottle.com> <200503010017.35174.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <42248628.6030207@bluebottle.com> <200503012349.54764.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <422608E4.1020309@bluebottle.com> tried that. Tom Weeks wrote: >On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:11 am, Oracle Nine wrote: > > >>Sorry. That is correct about the symlink. menu.lst is the symlink; >>grub.conf has the actual data. >> >>kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda2 >> >> > >Try pointing to the REAL kernel name instead of the symlink (vmlinuz). > >Tweeks > >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From mester at satx.rr.com Wed Mar 2 19:00:31 2005 From: mester at satx.rr.com (Mike Ester) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:40:14 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> Message-ID: <422661AF.6050805@satx.rr.com> Charles D Hogan wrote: > time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) > > me@jchampion.com wrote: > >> you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into putting >> those >> chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. >> >> so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. >> >> >> Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) -- Mike Ester 830-822-2241 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html A free alternative to Microsoft Office: http://www.openoffice.org From country at the-cia.net Wed Mar 2 19:04:32 2005 From: country at the-cia.net (cb) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:46:57 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <422661AF.6050805@satx.rr.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> <422661AF.6050805@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <422662A0.7040408@the-cia.net> Tinfoil hats and collandar helments, with antenna's hahahahahah Mike Ester wrote: > Charles D Hogan wrote: > >> time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) >> >> me@jchampion.com wrote: >> >>> you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into >>> putting those >>> chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. >>> >>> so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. >>> >>> >>> > Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) > From jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 19:08:03 2005 From: jesse.gonzalez.jr at gmail.com (Jesse Gonzalez) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:48:22 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Cron emails working with rsync In-Reply-To: <128bff2f05030212413cdd2911@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f05030212413cdd2911@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: try --stats On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 14:41:37 -0600, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > I know a lot of you use rsync and cron to backup your filesystems. I > have a question when CRON Emails me I get something like > > 100 files... 200 files... 300 files... 400 files... 500 files... 600 > files... 700 files... 800 files... 900 files... 1000 files... 1100 > files... 1200 files... 1300 files... 1400 files... 1500 files... 1600 > files... 1700 files... 1800 files... 1900 files... 2000 files... 2100 > files... 2200 files... 2300 files... 2400 files... 2500 files... 2600 > files... > > all the way to 25900 files then the stats. All I want is the stats to > show the number of files that have been backed up. I guess I could > just turn off the verbose but then again I would get the status only > if there was an error. > > Thanks > > Zeb > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From gdabernathy at earthlink.net Wed Mar 2 20:13:50 2005 From: gdabernathy at earthlink.net (Gary Abernathy) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:53:32 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] mySQL monitor? In-Reply-To: <277020fc05030210174fc93aa5@mail.gmail.com> References: <277020fc05030210174fc93aa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <422664CE.2090702@earthlink.net> Sean Carolan wrote: >Every so often mysqld eats up all our CPU cycles. Sometimes this can >cause other programs to run slowly. It usually resolves itself within >a few minutes, but I would like to track down the exact query to the >database that is causing this. > >Any ideas? >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > Configure your my.cnf to track slow queries: log_slow_queries=//mysql/data/slow-queries.log long_query_time=30 You can adjust the long_query_time so that you are not capturing every single query. When you are in connection manager or you run STATUS; from mysql you will be able to see if there are any Slow queries and then you can check the log files or simply check the log file on a regular basis. Hope this helps. From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 19:18:52 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:59:10 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <422662A0.7040408@the-cia.net> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> <422661AF.6050805@satx.rr.com> <422662A0.7040408@the-cia.net> Message-ID: <869de847050302171858826f4d@mail.gmail.com> I was thinking more along the lines of lead suits, like the ones in the radiology department. Not so much for me per se but maybe a wallet made out of lead would suffice.. :P it's either that or microwave your money when you get it... On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:04:32 -0600, cb wrote: > Tinfoil hats and collandar helments, with antenna's hahahahahah > > > Mike Ester wrote: > > > Charles D Hogan wrote: > > > >> time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) > >> > >> me@jchampion.com wrote: > >> > >>> you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into > >>> putting those > >>> chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. > >>> > >>> so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From country at the-cia.net Wed Mar 2 19:27:39 2005 From: country at the-cia.net (cb) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:09:37 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <869de847050302171858826f4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050302010629.29162.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> <1109775763.4225d593c883d@webmail.texas.net> <1109785602.1101.396.camel@laptop> <1109786234.4225fe7a3983c@webmail.texas.net> <1109786956.1097.417.camel@laptop> <1109787677.4226041d659c3@webmail.jchampion.com> <42261BB3.7050902@futuretechsolutions.com> <422661AF.6050805@satx.rr.com> <422662A0.7040408@the-cia.net> <869de847050302171858826f4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4226680B.9060200@the-cia.net> Can see it now, dollars popping in the microwave, and holes appearing in it, then try to buy your latest copy of Redhat (gotta keep it in context with the list) hahahahahah... will they take the money if the trackers are not in there???? hmmmm hahahah FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >I was thinking more along the lines of lead suits, like the ones in >the radiology department. Not so much for me per se but maybe a >wallet made out of lead would suffice.. :P > >it's either that or microwave your money when you get it... > >On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:04:32 -0600, cb wrote: > > >>Tinfoil hats and collandar helments, with antenna's hahahahahah >> >> >>Mike Ester wrote: >> >> >> >>>Charles D Hogan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) >>>> >>>>me@jchampion.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into >>>>>putting those >>>>>chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. >>>>> >>>>>so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > From hapihakr at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 19:00:09 2005 From: hapihakr at yahoo.com (Antonio) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:39:53 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) Message-ID: <20050303030009.70683.qmail@web80606.mail.yahoo.com> I was just wondering... how many of y'all wear tinfoil hats to keep the aliens from reading your mind? RFID is not exactly a Linux related topic and the list is getting cluttered with all this static. Maybe it's the RFID in the mail server. It was an interesting topic, I read the linked webpages (thank you, Mary), and I don't agree with the use of RFID for unethical purposes, but enough already. Antonio __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From jftitan at satx.rr.com Wed Mar 2 21:12:05 2005 From: jftitan at satx.rr.com (Joseph Forbes) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:52:01 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <4226680B.9060200@the-cia.net> Message-ID: <200503030312.j233CDYo017376@ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I know awhile back some nerds of some sort on Slashdot, kept running into a similar problem I have been having with a wallet full of new $20 bills. The new ones that have the oh so nifty change in color hue, and the oversized Jefferson. I ran across the article and decided to pull the same test as they did, and took a wad of the newly mint $20's and stuck them in the Microwave. Two of the $20's burnt holes in themselves. Awkward... I also decided to do another trick. I my last game purchase of Sim's: Makin Magic, I took the RFID tag out of the box right after I paid for the game, on the spot opened the box, and ripped out the RFID tag of the jewel cd case, then placing it inside my wallet. (Mind you I prevented the teller from wiping the game box over the 'deactivator'. She looked puzzled) For a couple of days, I never set off the anti-theft alarms at any of the stores I walked out of. But after about a month, I soon realized that every time I walked out of Petsmart, Circuit City, or a Best Buy, I would set off the anti-theft alarm when walking in or out. I had to confirm this, by taking my wallet out of my back pocket, and actually waving my wallet in front of me to set off the alarm over and over again. Making it obvious that something inside my wallet was setting off the alarm and not anything I recently purchased. (or in their terms 'forgot to pay for') I would tear my wallet apart to prove my point. It was until last week when I was reorganizing my wallet, that I found the RFID tag I had placed into my wallet when I bought the Sim's Add-on. (as a nutt, I decided to keep the sucker in my wallet to keep proving that it is still ....aaalllliiiiivvvveeeeee! Has anyone ever noticed that if you have a wad of new $20s you tend to set off the security alarm when walking in, but after you've spent your small fortune, you don't set off the alarm? I so want to lean towards this, but I can't prove anything other than the article I vaguely remember reading. AND the microwave event. Because for so long I have had the RFID tag in my wallet, I don't remember any other occasions of having just the $20s set off the alarms. Sincerely, Joseph Forbes "Don't Forget to Salt the Fries!" Network Security Administrator SwapNEtwork eXtreme, LLC - -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of cb Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:28 PM To: FIRESTORM_v1; The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) Can see it now, dollars popping in the microwave, and holes appearing in it, then try to buy your latest copy of Redhat (gotta keep it in context with the list) hahahahahah... will they take the money if the trackers are not in there???? hmmmm hahahah FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >I was thinking more along the lines of lead suits, like the ones in >the radiology department. Not so much for me per se but maybe a >wallet made out of lead would suffice.. :P > >it's either that or microwave your money when you get it... > >On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:04:32 -0600, cb wrote: > > >>Tinfoil hats and collandar helments, with antenna's hahahahahah >> >> >>Mike Ester wrote: >> >> >> >>>Charles D Hogan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) >>>> >>>>me@jchampion.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into >>>>>putting those >>>>>chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. >>>>> >>>>>so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >SATLUG mailing list >SATLUG@satlug.org >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQiaAhKHUegOVuBQuEQIlOACfRSseOp89nmOEu9GddB/PH6M0XL0AoP2N qWuUSeLRgKYR0/zkL6giwecF =tPhQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 22:09:32 2005 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:49:35 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <200503030312.j233CDYo017376@ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com> References: <4226680B.9060200@the-cia.net> <200503030312.j233CDYo017376@ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com> Message-ID: <869de8470503022009145a06db@mail.gmail.com> Well, you realize that the new shiny 20s have metal flakes in the paint, right? (next time, put them in water and nuke the water/cash) Insert jokes about money laundering here.. FIRESTORM_v1 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:12:05 -0600, Joseph Forbes wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I know awhile back some nerds of some sort on Slashdot, kept running > into a similar problem I have been having with a wallet full of new > $20 bills. The new ones that have the oh so nifty change in color > hue, and the oversized Jefferson. > > I ran across the article and decided to pull the same test as they > did, and took a wad of the newly mint $20's and stuck them in the > Microwave. Two of the $20's burnt holes in themselves. Awkward... > > I also decided to do another trick. I my last game purchase of Sim's: > Makin Magic, I took the RFID tag out of the box right after I paid > for the game, on the spot opened the box, and ripped out the RFID tag > of the jewel cd case, then placing it inside my wallet. (Mind you I > prevented the teller from wiping the game box over the 'deactivator'. > She looked puzzled) For a couple of days, I never set off the > anti-theft alarms at any of the stores I walked out of. But after > about a month, I soon realized that every time I walked out of > Petsmart, Circuit City, or a Best Buy, I would set off the anti-theft > alarm when walking in or out. > > I had to confirm this, by taking my wallet out of my back pocket, > and actually waving my wallet in front of me to set off the alarm > over and over again. Making it obvious that something inside my > wallet was setting off the alarm and not anything I recently > purchased. (or in their terms 'forgot to pay for') I would tear my > wallet apart to prove my point. It was until last week when I was > reorganizing my wallet, that I found the RFID tag I had placed into > my wallet when I bought the Sim's Add-on. (as a nutt, I decided to > keep the sucker in my wallet to keep proving that it is still > ....aaalllliiiiivvvveeeeee! > > Has anyone ever noticed that if you have a wad of new $20s you tend > to set off the security alarm when walking in, but after you've spent > your small fortune, you don't set off the alarm? I so want to lean > towards this, but I can't prove anything other than the article I > vaguely remember reading. AND the microwave event. Because for so > long I have had the RFID tag in my wallet, I don't remember any other > occasions of having just the $20s set off the alarms. > > Sincerely, > > Joseph Forbes "Don't Forget to Salt the Fries!" > Network Security Administrator > SwapNEtwork eXtreme, LLC > > - -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf Of cb > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:28 PM > To: FIRESTORM_v1; The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) > > Can see it now, dollars popping in the microwave, and holes appearing > in it, then try to buy your latest copy of Redhat (gotta keep it in > context > with the list) hahahahahah... will they take the money if the > trackers > are not in there???? hmmmm hahahah > > FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > > >I was thinking more along the lines of lead suits, like the ones in > >the radiology department. Not so much for me per se but maybe a > >wallet made out of lead would suffice.. :P > > > >it's either that or microwave your money when you get it... > > > >On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:04:32 -0600, cb wrote: > > > > > >>Tinfoil hats and collandar helments, with antenna's hahahahahah > >> > >> > >>Mike Ester wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Charles D Hogan wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>time to design and make faraday cage wallets :) > >>>> > >>>>me@jchampion.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>you guys do know that the treasury department is looking into > >>>>>putting those > >>>>>chips into dollar bills right? the e.u. is doing this this year. > >>>>> > >>>>>so i hope y'all plan on living off the land and being cashless. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>Don't forget the tinfoil hats. :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SATLUG mailing list > >>SATLUG@satlug.org > >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >SATLUG mailing list > >SATLUG@satlug.org > >http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 8.1 > > iQA/AwUBQiaAhKHUegOVuBQuEQIlOACfRSseOp89nmOEu9GddB/PH6M0XL0AoP2N > qWuUSeLRgKYR0/zkL6giwecF > =tPhQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > From mikeaw at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 00:27:35 2005 From: mikeaw at gmail.com (Mike Wallace) Date: Thu Mar 3 00:08:02 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Limiting ports Message-ID: <4154519d050302222747114302@mail.gmail.com> Is there any easy way to limit ports such that they can either only be used by certain users or only by certain processes? Also, is there an easy way to limit a given port to accept connections only from the localhost without the need of setting up iptables? Or is iptables the only way? -Mike From thomas.cameron at camerontech.com Thu Mar 3 01:07:11 2005 From: thomas.cameron at camerontech.com (Thomas Cameron) Date: Thu Mar 3 00:43:47 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Limiting ports In-Reply-To: <4154519d050302222747114302@mail.gmail.com> References: <4154519d050302222747114302@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1109833631.14212.121.camel@mail.camerontech.com> On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 00:27 -0600, Mike Wallace wrote: > Is there any easy way to limit ports such that they can either only be > used by certain users or only by certain processes? Also, is there an > easy way to limit a given port to accept connections only from the > localhost without the need of setting up iptables? Or is iptables the > only way? > > -Mike Might look at the man page for hosts_access. You might be able to sorta do what you want. Thomas From masterr at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 02:02:05 2005 From: masterr at gmail.com (Jonathan Hull) Date: Thu Mar 3 01:41:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Free stuff (unless you feel generous) In-Reply-To: <869de8470503021316dc3aab3@mail.gmail.com> References: <869de8470503021316dc3aab3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14842c4105030300024ac07026@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:16:53 -0600, FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: > Ok.. here's the deal. > > I need money to move out of San Antonio. I have a handful of > Linux-ready computers, each averaging about a Pentium 100, 32 MB RAM > and a 1G HD. They all have at least 1 NIC in them that is supported > by Linux and is ready to be installed. I've tried selling them but > no one wants to buy them so I'l going to give them away and hope that > someone feels like donating to the cause. > > Amongst my 'treasures' I also have: > > a USB/Parallel backpack CD burner > boxes of Cat-5 and Cat-3 phone cable (Most not full, but good for > those quick runs) > an assortment of SCSI cd roms (some requires caddies) > an assortment of SCSI hard drives (probably about ~2G? I don't know) > a LOT of floppy drives > two or three BabyATX cases with power supplies. (if they dont' have > one, I have extra power supplies.. :P ) > at least three monitors that are in good working condition > three Compaq computers > a Mac (old one) > at least 20 Pentium 75s, 100s, and 133 processors in boxes > a Dual-Pentium Pro server (used to work, haven't diagnosed it yet) > a Compaq Plasma monitor luggable computer (actually POSTs too) > and other odds and ends. > > They either go to someone that will use them or they go to the nearest > Goodwill or trash bin. I want them to go to someone on either SATLUG > or the XCSSA lists. Satlug: Should I post this in satlug-etc? > > If you are interested, you can come by my house. > > You can call me at the following number: 210-392-4770 and I will give > your my address. I should be there around 7ish. > > Thank you! > > FIRESTORM_v1 > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug > I'll take all of it if no one else wants any of it. Only problem is I don't have a truck to haul all of it and I don't have any time to come and get it untill next week at night (after class/work) or next weekend, whenever is best for you. How long are you going to be in town? If there is still stuff next week I'll come by and get what I can cram in my little Kia. -- Jon/MasteR masterr@gmail.com i am a n00b From rwegner at satx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 03:33:25 2005 From: rwegner at satx.rr.com (Richard Wegner) Date: Thu Mar 3 03:12:58 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: RFID (radio frequency identification) In-Reply-To: <869de8470503022009145a06db@mail.gmail.com> References: <4226680B.9060200@the-cia.net> <200503030312.j233CDYo017376@ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com> <869de8470503022009145a06db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4226CBD5.40805@satx.rr.com> FIRESTORM_v1 wrote: >Well, you realize that the new shiny 20s have metal flakes in the paint, right? > >(next time, put them in water and nuke the water/cash) > >Insert jokes about money laundering here.. > > >FIRESTORM_v1 > > >On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:12:05 -0600, Joseph Forbes wrote: > > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >> Next time you have extra wad of extra $20's hanging around, you could always pass me some, as I'm saving up for my trip to NYC with my wife in June. *heheheh* From rwegner at satx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 04:07:11 2005 From: rwegner at satx.rr.com (Richard Wegner) Date: Thu Mar 3 03:46:44 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] copying files Message-ID: <4226D3BF.3050002@satx.rr.com> Hi there, I have this question: I'm trying to copy a script file into my .xchat2 directory and I'm not having much luck...here's what happens: @localhost .xchat2]$ cp /home//XChatPerlEval.pm /home//xchat2/XChatPerlEval.pm cp: cannot stat `/home//XChatPerlEval.pm': No such file or directory I really appreciate it very much, this does it to folders that are hidden and those that aren't. I want to do it in terminal mode. I don't want to use the GUI for it. Thanks From geoffw5omr at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 05:56:11 2005 From: geoffw5omr at gmail.com (Geoff) Date: Thu Mar 3 05:36:05 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] knoppix Message-ID: >From the recent discussion about Whoppix, I downloaded (at ~600kb/s! Thanks, RR) the whoppix iso, burned it to a cd, and booted my XP machine (AMD Athlon Duron 2200+ @ 1.8GHz, w/512MB RAM) with it, and all was great. Set up the ip address for the nic, the gui was good, gaim worked flawlessly, etc... all good. IIRC, it was merely a press of the return button, for the 'default' settings to boot linux. I grabbed the CD and slipped it into another machine (PII 350 w/256MG RAM) and while the machine booted the CD, and loaded the kernel, Knoppix then reported "Can't Find the Knoppix filesystem" Are there some optional parameters I'm missing? -- Regards, -Geoff Oscar loves trash, but hates spam. Get the Lead out to reply. From scarolan at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 06:42:17 2005 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Thu Mar 3 06:22:01 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] mySQL monitor? In-Reply-To: <200503021929.j22JThY07702@alamo.satlug.org> References: <277020fc05030210174fc93aa5@mail.gmail.com> <200503021929.j22JThY07702@alamo.satlug.org> Message-ID: <277020fc05030304425c7b333@mail.gmail.com> mtop worked great! Now I can show it to my PHP programmer whenever a weird query eats up all the CPU cycles. From chuck at tetlow.net Thu Mar 3 09:28:05 2005 From: chuck at tetlow.net (Chuck) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:08:05 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] copying files In-Reply-To: <4226D3BF.3050002@satx.rr.com> References: <4226D3BF.3050002@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1109863686.1097.633.camel@laptop> On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 03:07, Richard Wegner wrote: Hi there, I have this question: I'm trying to copy a script file into my .xchat2 directory and I'm not having much luck...here's what happens: @localhost .xchat2]$ cp /home//XChatPerlEval.pm /home//xchat2/XChatPerlEval.pm cp: cannot stat `/home//XChatPerlEval.pm': No such file or directory Hi Richard, It looks like you lost a dot in your command line. The copy to location doesn't have a dot in front of the xchat2 directory name. But that dot is a part of the name, you can't just leave it off. I see from the prompt that you are in that directory and it has a dot in front of the name -- so you need to continue that format. (PS -- if you didn't know, that leading dot just means that its a hidden directory or file). Anyway, you can do it one of two ways. One way is to go into the directory you want the file in "cd /home//.xchat2" and copy it with cp /home//XChatPerlEval.pm ." That space and dot following the copy (cp) command means put it HERE. The second way was the method you were trying -- using full paths. In that case, it would be: "cp /home//XChatPerlEval.pm /home//.xchat2/". That will copy the file to that directory with the same name it already has. Good luck Richard. Chuck From satlug at cjs226.com Thu Mar 3 09:36:14 2005 From: satlug at cjs226.com (Clif Smith) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:15:02 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Anyone interacting with M$ Dynamic DNS? Message-ID: <42272EEE.5020901@cjs226.com> I've found plenty of clients for updating online Dynamic DNS providers, but haven't stumbled across one specifically for updating Microsoft's Dynamic DNS. Has anyone had to deal with this? Thanks, Clif From wmail at wricomp.com Thu Mar 3 12:00:43 2005 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:40:28 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] knoppix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:56:11 -0600, Geoff wrote: >I grabbed the CD and slipped it into another machine (PII 350 w/256MG >RAM) and while the machine booted the CD, and loaded the kernel, >Knoppix then reported "Can't Find the Knoppix filesystem" >From what I've seen, such errors are generally due to not finding the controller for the CD in the kernel/modules that are being loaded. Is there an option to try a 2.6.x kernel, such as booting with 'linux26' instead? (Many Debian-related distros show the startup options by pressing F1 at the boot: prompt.) Does that system work with any other live-cd distros, like Ubuntu or Slax? From maquaro at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 12:10:42 2005 From: maquaro at yahoo.com (Dale Offret Jr.) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:50:17 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Help starting to use RRD tool Message-ID: <20050303121042.0e4b112e@dargonesti> I recently implemented a Nagios monitoring system a my place of work. I want to use RRD tool for some nice trending graphs, but I'm having a hard time getting started. I would appreciate any help. You can contact me off-line. Thanks, Dale Offret Jr. maquaro at yahoo dot com From swinston at global-gaming.com Thu Mar 3 15:17:05 2005 From: swinston at global-gaming.com (Steven Winston) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:41:33 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Bittorrent Message-ID: Anyone here know of a java applet bittorrent client? From jeremymann at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 14:21:41 2005 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:01:24 2005 Subject: [SATLUG] Bittorrent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79ec289f05030312214a795f95@mail.gmail.com> Azureus. http://azureus.sourceforge.net On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:17:05 -0600 (CST), Steven Winston wrote: > Anyone here know of a java