From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Apr 2 08:16:53 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Apr 2 07:17:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service Message-ID: <200704021316.l32DGrLj011846@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Sorry, this is a day late... http://www.google.com/tisp/ From leon36 at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 08:46:50 2007 From: leon36 at gmail.com (Samuel Leon) Date: Mon Apr 2 08:47:14 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <200704021316.l32DGrLj011846@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200704021316.l32DGrLj011846@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <4611094A.6060205@gmail.com> Borries Demeler wrote: > Sorry, this is a day late... > http://www.google.com/tisp/ > Yea I was scratching my head on that one. Sam From viennetto at yahoo.com Mon Apr 2 11:35:08 2007 From: viennetto at yahoo.com (Christian Osso) Date: Mon Apr 2 11:35:30 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <4611094A.6060205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <938818.55271.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> With everyone signed up onto the gmail database and now allowing google into their homes via this service (oh look honey, it's free!), H. Ross Perot just might be around long enough to warn us of an entirely new "sucking sound": that of our minds and souls being sucked through the ether, all the way to Mountain View. At the very least, I smell painfully high switching costs on the horizon for millions around the world who never saw them coming. Ain't nothin' "free". Samuel Leon wrote: Borries Demeler wrote: > Sorry, this is a day late... > http://www.google.com/tisp/ > Yea I was scratching my head on that one. Sam -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From daniel at rugmonster.org Mon Apr 2 12:12:03 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Mon Apr 2 12:13:45 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <938818.55271.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <938818.55271.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46113963.5010405@rugmonster.org> Christian Osso wrote: > With everyone signed up onto the gmail database and now allowing google into their homes via this service (oh look honey, it's free!), H. Ross Perot just might be around long enough to warn us of an entirely new "sucking sound": that of our minds and souls being sucked through the ether, all the way to Mountain View. At the very least, I smell painfully high switching costs on the horizon for millions around the world who never saw them coming. Ain't nothin' "free". And being on any other ISP is any better? They can all access your stuff unless you encrypt it. Geez, you would think some people had never heard of April Fools'... From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Apr 2 12:23:19 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Apr 2 12:23:42 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <46113963.5010405@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <200704021723.l32HNJ1P011441@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > Geez, you would think some people had never heard of April Fools'... I was hoping we could play this a little longer, but now the cat is out... :-( From daniel at rugmonster.org Mon Apr 2 12:43:51 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Mon Apr 2 12:45:32 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <200704021723.l32HNJ1P011441@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200704021723.l32HNJ1P011441@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <461140D7.5000009@rugmonster.org> Borries Demeler wrote: >> Geez, you would think some people had never heard of April Fools'... > > I was hoping we could play this a little longer, but now the cat is out... :-( I thought you gave it away with saying it's a day late. Sorry :-P From gboswell at accd.edu Mon Apr 2 14:27:03 2007 From: gboswell at accd.edu (Glenn F. Boswell) Date: Mon Apr 2 14:27:06 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: new Google service Message-ID: <46115907.3070708@accd.edu> > From: Borries Demeler > Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service > > Sorry, this is a day late... > http://www.google.com/tisp/ > > Thanks for being a day late. Made this Monday a hoot! -- Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@accd.edu San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 "We make a living by what we Get. We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous From viennetto at yahoo.com Mon Apr 2 19:32:24 2007 From: viennetto at yahoo.com (Christian Osso) Date: Mon Apr 2 19:32:46 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service In-Reply-To: <46113963.5010405@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <51417.14087.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Heard of it on April 1... this April 2nd thing is new to me. Good one... btw, my ISP can do all that, but they are not google. "Daniel J. Givens" wrote: And being on any other ISP is any better? They can all access your stuff unless you encrypt it. Geez, you would think some people had never heard of April Fools'... -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Apr 2 21:07:21 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Apr 2 21:07:43 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200704030207.l3327LIC001109@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > > OOPS, didn't realize this was a knoppix-specific thing with a lot of > non-portable utilities like mkdiskimage. > > The thing should be to format it as vfat, copy the contents of the ISO to > the partition, and copy the first 512 bytes of the iso to the raw device of > the USB drive > > mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt > cp /mnt/* /media/usbdisk > umount /media/usbdisk > dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 count=1 Mark, I tried this approach with both puppylinux and with SLAX, to no avail. The boot hangs... It doesn't seem to make a difference if I mark the /dev/sda1 partition as active or not. here is some info: fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 506 MB, 506986496 bytes 16 heads, 61 sectors/track, 1014 cylinders Units = cylinders of 976 * 512 = 499712 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 1014 494801+ b W95 FAT32 Anything obviously wrong with this? Thanks, -Borries From rsuberg at satx.rr.com Mon Apr 2 22:43:05 2007 From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg) Date: Mon Apr 2 22:47:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] satlug-etc? Message-ID: <000001c775a2$32ab5730$0a01a8c0@rich> Is this list still up, and where do you subscribe to it....I can't find it anywhere on satlug.org site. Thx, Richard From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 23:11:54 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Mon Apr 2 23:12:16 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] satlug-etc? In-Reply-To: <000001c775a2$32ab5730$0a01a8c0@rich> References: <000001c775a2$32ab5730$0a01a8c0@rich> Message-ID: <4611D40A.8000205@gmail.com> Richard Suberg wrote: > Is this list still up, No. -- Bruce From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 23:28:06 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Mon Apr 2 23:28:28 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <200704030207.l3327LIC001109@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200704030207.l3327LIC001109@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <4611D7D6.9080708@gmail.com> Borries Demeler wrote: >> OOPS, didn't realize this was a knoppix-specific thing with a lot of >> non-portable utilities like mkdiskimage. >> >> The thing should be to format it as vfat, copy the contents of the ISO to >> the partition, and copy the first 512 bytes of the iso to the raw device of >> the USB drive >> >> mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt >> cp /mnt/* /media/usbdisk >> umount /media/usbdisk >> dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 count=1 > > Mark, > > I tried this approach with both puppylinux and with SLAX, to no avail. > The boot hangs... > It doesn't seem to make a difference if I mark the /dev/sda1 partition > as active or not. > > here is some info: > > fdisk /dev/sda > > Command (m for help): p > > Disk /dev/sda: 506 MB, 506986496 bytes > 16 heads, 61 sectors/track, 1014 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 976 * 512 = 499712 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 1 1014 494801+ b W95 FAT32 > > Anything obviously wrong with this? I may be coming in late here, but if I understand it correctly, you are trying to make a bootable usb flash ram drive. Try using fdisk to create a single partition, then use `mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda1` on that partition. You might want to run tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/sda1 to disable disk checks on startup. Then install grub directly. grub > root (hd1,0) > setup (hd1) Assuming grub recognizes it as hd1 which would be normal if there is only one normal disk in the system. Then create /boot/grub/menu.lst, copy the kernel and other necessary files from whatever source you want and you should be ready to go. Here's a link that does essentially the same thing: http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_bootable_USB_stick -- Bruce From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Tue Apr 3 05:49:40 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Tue Apr 3 05:50:02 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <4611D7D6.9080708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > I may be coming in late here, but if I understand it correctly, you are > trying to make a bootable usb flash ram drive. Not really, I want to do 2 things: 1. have a generic way of installing a bootable iso image (a live CD for example) on a USB stick so the USB essentially behaves the same as the CD 2. find some generic instructions (roll my own distro). Tom King already sent a link that seems to accomplish this - although I have not tried it (http://linuxgazette.net/113/kapil.html) I am still looking for a solution for (1). Installing a standard linux to a stick is probably the same process as to a harddrive. But I think it would be cool if I could make it on a compressed fs and using a ramdisk. To be honest, I may not have the time to investigate further if this is as extensive as in the link supplied by Tom King. Thanks, -Borries > > Try using fdisk to create a single partition, then use `mkfs -t ext2 > /dev/sda1` on that partition. You might want to run tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 > /dev/sda1 to disable disk checks on startup. > > Then install grub directly. > > grub > > root (hd1,0) > > setup (hd1) > > Assuming grub recognizes it as hd1 which would be normal if there is > only one normal disk in the system. > > Then create /boot/grub/menu.lst, copy the kernel and other necessary > files from whatever source you want and you should be ready to go. > > Here's a link that does essentially the same thing: > > http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_bootable_USB_stick > > -- Bruce > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From hharadon at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 07:57:24 2007 From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon) Date: Tue Apr 3 07:57:46 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Google's New TCIPee Service Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:16:53 -0500 (CDT) > From: Borries Demeler > Subject: [SATLUG] new Google service > To: satlug@satlug.org (Satlug Mailing List) > Message-ID: <200704021316.l32DGrLj011846@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sorry, this is a day late... > http://www.google.com/tisp/ Thanks for posting this. I haven't had such a good laugh for awhile. Howard -- Howard Haradon San Antonio, TX USA Open standards computing is the most patriotic. From wmail at wricomp.com Tue Apr 3 11:40:13 2007 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Tue Apr 3 11:40:35 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <4611D7D6.9080708@gmail.com> <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 05:49:40 -0500 (CDT), Borries Demeler wrote: >1. have a generic way of installing a bootable iso image (a live CD for example) >on a USB stick so the USB essentially behaves the same as the CD Syslinux[1] may help with that - at least the version used by [2]Debian. The second URL is a mini-HOWTO for a 256MB version that works for small .iso images, with longer instructions that may help with larger ones. --Don [1] http://syslinux.zytor.com/index.php [2] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb -- Be well - or at least have interesting symptoms! From scarolan at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 12:01:54 2007 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Tue Apr 3 12:02:17 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: References: <4611D7D6.9080708@gmail.com> <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <277020fc0704031001x63d0adfdu77111019c2635ad1@mail.gmail.com> > Syslinux[1] may help with that - at least the version used by [2]Debian. The > second URL is a mini-HOWTO for a 256MB version that works for small .iso > images, with longer instructions that may help with larger ones. --Don > > [1] http://syslinux.zytor.com/index.php > [2] > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb I have used the syslinux method for putting BackTrack 2.0 (Slax-based security distro) onto a USB drive. As I recall, the process went something like this: 1. Format USB disk as FAT16 2. Under Linux or Windows, use syslinux to make it bootable. 3. Copy entire contents of bootable live CD onto USB disk 4. Rename the isolinux.cfg file to syslinux.cfg 5. Make sure whatever box you are booting on has "USB Boot" or some variation turned on in the bios. The advantage to doing it this way are that you can also use the disk for storage, and access your files from just about any OS, including OSX, Linux or Windows. Supposedly with Slax you can actually save all filesystem changes and have them come back at the next boot, but I was not able to get it to work despite tinkering with it for several hours. From glenn.toothman at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 12:33:50 2007 From: glenn.toothman at gmail.com (country) Date: Tue Apr 3 12:34:13 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <277020fc0704031001x63d0adfdu77111019c2635ad1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4611D7D6.9080708@gmail.com> <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> <277020fc0704031001x63d0adfdu77111019c2635ad1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <294cd3d10704031033x2c487a5by1b66f0d38decb8bc@mail.gmail.com> I"m wondering if you could do the same with Santa Fe, and make a bootable usb for that... hmmm may have to try it and see.... On 4/3/07, Sean Carolan wrote: > > > Syslinux[1] may help with that - at least the version used by [2]Debian. > The > > second URL is a mini-HOWTO for a 256MB version that works for small .iso > > images, with longer instructions that may help with larger ones. --Don > > > > [1] http://syslinux.zytor.com/index.php > > [2] > > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb > > I have used the syslinux method for putting BackTrack 2.0 (Slax-based > security distro) onto a USB drive. As I recall, the process went > something like this: > > 1. Format USB disk as FAT16 > 2. Under Linux or Windows, use syslinux to make it bootable. > 3. Copy entire contents of bootable live CD onto USB disk > 4. Rename the isolinux.cfg file to syslinux.cfg > 5. Make sure whatever box you are booting on has "USB Boot" or some > variation turned on in the bios. > > The advantage to doing it this way are that you can also use the disk > for storage, and access your files from just about any OS, including > OSX, Linux or Windows. > > Supposedly with Slax you can actually save all filesystem changes and > have them come back at the next boot, but I was not able to get it to > work despite tinkering with it for several hours. > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Ft. Devens 138th Avn Co (RR) HHC USASATR Ft Devens 507th USASAE SPD 138th Avn Co (RR) 293rd Avn Co (SA) From twistedpickles at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 17:09:51 2007 From: twistedpickles at gmail.com (twistedpickles) Date: Tue Apr 3 17:10:14 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] off topic :: IBM t42 Laptop parts for sale Message-ID: If anyone is interested...I believe the video card crapped out. Ram, cd/dvdrom, sound card, wireless, keyboard, mouse, and screen work. Name your price. -- ::twistedPickles:: : From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Tue Apr 3 20:11:15 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Tue Apr 3 20:11:39 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <277020fc0704031001x63d0adfdu77111019c2635ad1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704040111.l341BGTr008444@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Thanks to all of you trying to help and sending suggestions. I finally got it figured out. I successfully booted both DSL and SLAX from my 512 USB stick. However, the instructions were not quite complete to get it to work. Here is what I found works for DSL (assuming your USB device registers on /dev/sda): First, make a W95 FAT32 (LBA) on your USB stick, and make it active (bootable). That's type "c". fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 506 MB, 506986496 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 61 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 61 489951 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Next, format the partition for vfat: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 mount the drive: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt go into the image and extract the DSL zip file: cd /mnt unzip ~/dsl-embedded.zip unmount the drive: cd umount /mnt run syslinux: syslinux /dev/sda1 Reboot. This however does not work for SLAX. For that, you need to create a syslinux.cfg file and tell it where to find the boot image. The strangest thing was that syslinux was unable to deal with a kernel path like boot/linux, it tried to convert it to a 8.3 name like this: boot/lin.ux, or course this was not there. So I copied everything from /boot/* to /. and edited the syslinux.cfg file to look for everything in / To copy the iso image, I do: mkdir ~/iso mount slax-5.1.8.1.iso iso -o loop cd iso/ cp -a * /mnt/. umount /mnt The run: syslinux /dev/sda1 remount the usb stick and edit the syslinux.cfg file as indicated above. Note: this was using syslinux from a slack 10.2 install. Here is my final syslinx.conf file for slax: display splash.cfg default slax prompt 1 timeout 40 F1 splash.txt F2 splash2.txt F3 splash.cfg label slax kernel linux append vga=769 changes=slaxsave.dat max_loop=255 initrd=initrd.gz init=linuxrc load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_s ize=4444 root=/dev/ram0 rw label linux kernel linux append vga=769 changes=slaxsave.dat max_loop=255 initrd=initrd.gz init=linuxrc load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_s ize=4444 root=/dev/ram0 rw label memtest kernel memtest This setup worked fine. Here is the final mount table: df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on tmpfs 1435288 194676 1240612 14% / /dev/sda1 489688 201248 288440 42% /mnt/sda1_removable (I got 2 gb ram on my laptop, so the tmpfs is pretty generous). Thanks again to everyone for getting me close! -b. > > Syslinux[1] may help with that - at least the version used by [2]Debian. The > > second URL is a mini-HOWTO for a 256MB version that works for small .iso > > images, with longer instructions that may help with larger ones. --Don > > > > [1] http://syslinux.zytor.com/index.php > > [2] > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb > > I have used the syslinux method for putting BackTrack 2.0 (Slax-based > security distro) onto a USB drive. As I recall, the process went > something like this: > > 1. Format USB disk as FAT16 > 2. Under Linux or Windows, use syslinux to make it bootable. > 3. Copy entire contents of bootable live CD onto USB disk > 4. Rename the isolinux.cfg file to syslinux.cfg > 5. Make sure whatever box you are booting on has "USB Boot" or some > variation turned on in the bios. > > The advantage to doing it this way are that you can also use the disk > for storage, and access your files from just about any OS, including > OSX, Linux or Windows. > > Supposedly with Slax you can actually save all filesystem changes and > have them come back at the next boot, but I was not able to get it to > work despite tinkering with it for several hours. > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From rsuberg at satx.rr.com Tue Apr 3 23:38:26 2007 From: rsuberg at satx.rr.com (Richard Suberg) Date: Tue Apr 3 23:42:22 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] satlug-etc? In-Reply-To: <4611D40A.8000205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c77673$177b4660$0a01a8c0@rich> Thanks.. -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org]On Behalf Of Bruce Dubbs Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:12 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] satlug-etc? Richard Suberg wrote: > Is this list still up, No. -- Bruce -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From mkr777 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 10:53:56 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Wed Apr 4 10:54:22 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio Message-ID: Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be caused by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high speed. I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about any local DSL problems? mkr From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 10:56:04 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Wed Apr 4 10:56:29 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Configuring a browser for streaming video Message-ID: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> I have some .avi files out on a web site I manage that I want to play properly from my browser. When I do: mplayer http://myurl... Everything works as expected. When I set up my browser (seamonkey, formerly known as mozilla), it insists on downloading the entire file before launching mplayer. For these files, it takes a few minutes to do the download and I'd like to get it to start playing without that delay. Does anyone know how to set up a browser for streaming? -- Bruce From jeremymann at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:02:49 2007 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:03:15 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Configuring a browser for streaming video In-Reply-To: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> References: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> Bruce, there is a web plugin for MPlayer, you can get it here: http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ On 4/4/07, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I have some .avi files out on a web site I manage that I want to play > properly from my browser. When I do: > > mplayer http://myurl... > > Everything works as expected. > > When I set up my browser (seamonkey, formerly known as mozilla), it > insists on downloading the entire file before launching mplayer. For > these files, it takes a few minutes to do the download and I'd like to > get it to start playing without that delay. > > Does anyone know how to set up a browser for streaming? > > -- Bruce > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From scs at worldlinkisp.com Wed Apr 4 11:03:09 2007 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:04:24 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW Message-ID: <93bff9e8c7224644af2962afd0d9e1c0.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Anyone know a retail source in N.W. SA for Mini CDR CDRW media. Altex has them, but don't really care to drive that far. From mkr777 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:06:42 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:07:03 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW In-Reply-To: <93bff9e8c7224644af2962afd0d9e1c0.scs@worldlinkisp.com> References: <93bff9e8c7224644af2962afd0d9e1c0.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Message-ID: How about Compusa near Airport. mkr On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > Anyone know a retail source in N.W. SA for Mini CDR > CDRW media. > > Altex has them, but don't really care to drive that far. > > > > From jeremymann at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:12:04 2007 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:12:31 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW In-Reply-To: <93bff9e8c7224644af2962afd0d9e1c0.scs@worldlinkisp.com> References: <93bff9e8c7224644af2962afd0d9e1c0.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f0704040912p4a801611s6ec763773cf9e2f0@mail.gmail.com> Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max will carry these. On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > Anyone know a retail source in N.W. SA for Mini CDR > CDRW media. > > Altex has them, but don't really care to drive that far. > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From pixelnate at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:17:21 2007 From: pixelnate at gmail.com (pixelnate) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:17:56 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW Message-ID: <11175703441216231b1.521595368.pixelnate@gmail.com> I have seen them at Circuit City as well. ~Nate ----- Original message ----- From: M K Ramadoss To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 11:06:42 AM CDT Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW How about Compusa near Airport. mkr On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > Anyone know a retail source in N.W. SA for Mini CDR > CDRW media. > > Altex has them, but don't really care to drive that far. > > > > -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From pixelnate at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:23:09 2007 From: pixelnate at gmail.com (pixelnate) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:23:39 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio Message-ID: <111757037891190cde71.1726956429.pixelnate@gmail.com> My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still down. They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. ~Nate ----- Original message ----- From: M K Ramadoss To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be caused by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high speed. I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about any local DSL problems? mkr -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:37:59 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:38:23 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Configuring a browser for streaming video In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> References: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4613D467.20001@gmail.com> Jeremy Mann wrote: > Bruce, there is a web plugin for MPlayer, you can get it here: > > http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ Downloaded. Built. Installed. Works. Thanks. :) -- Bruce From masterr at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:41:15 2007 From: masterr at gmail.com (Jonathan Hull) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:41:38 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Configuring a browser for streaming video In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> References: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14842c410704040941n764d93cdy25c125cb39ee4fe0@mail.gmail.com> Another option if you would rather play it in mplayer natively is the "launchy" extension. It adds an extra menu to the right click menu that allows opening of links in various with various extrenal programs (in effect passing the URL to the program rather than downloading the file). With multimedia programs this in effect will stream the file. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/81 It's for Firefox, but it may work in Seamonkey/Mozilla as well. Also, it doesn't have any default programs on Linux so you have to give it a custom launchy.xml file with the programs you want to use. Here is mine: 3 /usr/bin/mplayer 3 /usr/bin/gmplayer 3 /usr/bin/mplayer 3 /usr/bin/xmms 3 /usr/bin/beep-media-player 3 /usr/bin/mplayer 3 /usr/bin/totem 3 /usr/bin/vlc 3 /usr/bin/gxine Just save it as launchy.xml in your chrome directory and restart the browser. Then rightclick on the link to the file you want to open, select Launchy, then select the program you want to open it with. Maybe not quite what you wanted, but it's another option. --Jonathan Hull On 4/4/07, Jeremy Mann wrote: > > Bruce, there is a web plugin for MPlayer, you can get it here: > > http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ > > On 4/4/07, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I have some .avi files out on a web site I manage that I want to play > > properly from my browser. When I do: > > > > mplayer http://myurl... > > > > Everything works as expected. > > > > When I set up my browser (seamonkey, formerly known as mozilla), it > > insists on downloading the entire file before launching mplayer. For > > these files, it takes a few minutes to do the download and I'd like to > > get it to start playing without that delay. > > > > Does anyone know how to set up a browser for streaming? > > > > -- Bruce > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > -- > Jeremy Mann > jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu > > University of Texas Health Science Center > Bioinformatics Core Facility > http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu > Phone: (210) 567-2672 > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Wed Apr 4 11:44:07 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:44:32 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200704041644.l34Gi7vk028242@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > > Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the > connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be caused > by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high speed. > I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about > any local DSL problems? Run a traceroute to the same site that gives you problems and compare the hop speeds to a traceroute that was done when everything works. THis will usually show where the problem crops up. -b. > > mkr > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From masterr at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:46:44 2007 From: masterr at gmail.com (Jonathan Hull) Date: Wed Apr 4 11:47:15 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Configuring a browser for streaming video In-Reply-To: <14842c410704040941n764d93cdy25c125cb39ee4fe0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4613CA94.3020902@gmail.com> <79ec289f0704040902u35b6cd93sc55c5a3903825e50@mail.gmail.com> <14842c410704040941n764d93cdy25c125cb39ee4fe0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14842c410704040946y36ef2c71n7343e49f0996e272@mail.gmail.com> Wow, I just noticed I have Mplayer on that list 3 times, hehe. Guess thats what happens when you don't double check things. On 4/4/07, Jonathan Hull wrote: > > Another option if you would rather play it in mplayer natively is the > "launchy" extension. It adds an extra menu to the right click menu that > allows opening of links in various with various extrenal programs (in effect > passing the URL to the program rather than downloading the file). With > multimedia programs this in effect will stream the file. > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/81 > > It's for Firefox, but it may work in Seamonkey/Mozilla as well. Also, it > doesn't have any default programs on Linux so you have to give it a custom > launchy.xml file with the programs you want to use. Here is mine: > > > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/mplayer > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/gmplayer > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/mplayer > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/xmms > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/beep-media-player > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/mplayer > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/totem > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/vlc > > > > 3 > /usr/bin/gxine > > > > Just save it as launchy.xml in your chrome directory and restart the > browser. Then rightclick on the link to the file you want to open, select > Launchy, then select the program you want to open it with. > > Maybe not quite what you wanted, but it's another option. > > --Jonathan Hull > > On 4/4/07, Jeremy Mann wrote: > > > > Bruce, there is a web plugin for MPlayer, you can get it here: > > > > http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ > > > > On 4/4/07, Bruce Dubbs < bruce.dubbs@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have some .avi files out on a web site I manage that I want to play > > > properly from my browser. When I do: > > > > > > mplayer http://myurl. .. > > > > > > Everything works as expected. > > > > > > When I set up my browser (seamonkey, formerly known as mozilla), it > > > insists on downloading the entire file before launching mplayer. For > > > these files, it takes a few minutes to do the download and I'd like to > > > > > get it to start playing without that delay. > > > > > > Does anyone know how to set up a browser for streaming? > > > > > > -- Bruce > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeremy Mann > > jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu > > > > University of Texas Health Science Center > > Bioinformatics Core Facility > > http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu > > Phone: (210) 567-2672 > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace ( www.rackspace.com) > > > > From scs at worldlinkisp.com Wed Apr 4 12:07:27 2007 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Wed Apr 4 12:08:40 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW Message-ID: <827e04a710574fdd80113bd7892cd11a.scs@worldlinkisp.com> >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max will carry these.<< -------------------------------------------------- Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 From j at jvpappas.net Wed Apr 4 14:00:42 2007 From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas) Date: Wed Apr 4 14:01:05 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW In-Reply-To: <827e04a710574fdd80113bd7892cd11a.scs@worldlinkisp.com> References: <827e04a710574fdd80113bd7892cd11a.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Message-ID: <4c0ec4450704041200hf28b128r6cf7933ffde48bc5@mail.gmail.com> A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, etc) On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > > >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max > will carry these.<< > -------------------------------------------------- > Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 > > Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 > > > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From jeremymann at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 14:04:59 2007 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Wed Apr 4 14:05:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW In-Reply-To: <4c0ec4450704041200hf28b128r6cf7933ffde48bc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <827e04a710574fdd80113bd7892cd11a.scs@worldlinkisp.com> <4c0ec4450704041200hf28b128r6cf7933ffde48bc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f0704041204p4a6c3d37we9aa24e57e4f1ab9@mail.gmail.com> Yup, the Altex on 1604 just opened a few months ago to my delight. I can now walk from my house for computer parts if I need something ;) On 4/4/07, John Pappas wrote: > A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & > 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, > etc) > > On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > > > > > >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max > > will carry these.<< > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 > > > > Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From scs at worldlinkisp.com Wed Apr 4 14:35:50 2007 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Wed Apr 4 14:37:03 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW Message-ID: <92ef79e40b864d4899b98e26d37fb15c.scs@worldlinkisp.com> >>Yup, the Altex on 1604 just opened a few months ago to my delight. I can now walk from my house for computer parts if I need something ;) --- >>A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & >> 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, ---------------------------------- Like Bandera & 1604, thanks guys, and with Egg-on-Face I recall posting here some months ago (maybe a year) about seeing the Altex construction on 1604. Must be old age, will cruise in from Bandera this weekend, their $3.69 price for pack of five beats everyone's, and five will be more than adequate. Thanks again From wrkwatchr at hotmail.com Wed Apr 4 18:36:40 2007 From: wrkwatchr at hotmail.com (WrkWatchr) Date: Wed Apr 4 18:39:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio In-Reply-To: <111757037891190cde71.1726956429.pixelnate@gmail.com> References: <111757037891190cde71.1726956429.pixelnate@gmail.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of pixelnate Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still down. They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. ~Nate ----- Original message ----- From: M K Ramadoss To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be caused by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high speed. I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about any local DSL problems? mkr -- _______________________________________________ I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem (and run around from ATT) Roy From dubose at texas.net Wed Apr 4 20:28:46 2007 From: dubose at texas.net (Walt DuBose) Date: Wed Apr 4 19:29:08 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Linux on CD In-Reply-To: <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200704031049.l33AneGa022799@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <461450CE.1060802@texas.net> Borries Demeler wrote: >>I may be coming in late here, but if I understand it correctly, you are >>trying to make a bootable usb flash ram drive. > > > Not really, I want to do 2 things: > > 1. have a generic way of installing a bootable iso image (a live CD for example) > on a USB stick so the USB essentially behaves the same as the CD > > 2. find some generic instructions (roll my own distro). Tom King > already sent a link that seems to accomplish this - although I have > not tried it (http://linuxgazette.net/113/kapil.html) > > I am still looking for a solution for (1). Installing a standard linux > to a stick is probably the same process as to a harddrive. But I think > it would be cool if I could make it on a compressed fs and using a ramdisk. > To be honest, I may not have the time to investigate further if this is > as extensive as in the link supplied by Tom King. > > Thanks, -Borries > > >>Try using fdisk to create a single partition, then use `mkfs -t ext2 >>/dev/sda1` on that partition. You might want to run tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 >>/dev/sda1 to disable disk checks on startup. >> >>Then install grub directly. >> >>grub >> >>>root (hd1,0) >>>setup (hd1) >> >>Assuming grub recognizes it as hd1 which would be normal if there is >>only one normal disk in the system. >> >>Then create /boot/grub/menu.lst, copy the kernel and other necessary >>files from whatever source you want and you should be ready to go. >> >>Here's a link that does essentially the same thing: >> >>http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_bootable_USB_stick >> >> -- Bruce >>-- Here's some information from the Linux Ham radio group. -- Walt A good source of information and installation on loading Linux on a USB Flash drive is the pendrivelinux.com site. They have some lightweight linux versions as well as Ubuntu Edgy. Some are installed through MS OS and some through GNU/Linux OS. If you do it, let us know how it turned out for you. 73, Rick, KV9U From mkr777 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 20:20:51 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Wed Apr 4 20:21:12 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio In-Reply-To: References: <111757037891190cde71.1726956429.pixelnate@gmail.com> Message-ID: AT&T tech support tells me that they could not find any problem in the line. Are sending a tech to the customer location to determine what the problem is. Will keep you posted. mkr On 4/4/07, WrkWatchr wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf > Of pixelnate > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM > To: satlug@satlug.org > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still > down. > They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in > Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. > > ~Nate > > ----- Original message ----- > From: M K Ramadoss > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT > Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the > connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be > caused > by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high > speed. > I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about > any local DSL problems? > > mkr > -- > _______________________________________________ > > I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem > (and > run around from ATT) > > Roy > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Wed Apr 4 20:23:20 2007 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Wed Apr 4 20:23:42 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200704050123.l351NKA0021563@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Have you guys run a traceroute? Where does it get stuck? that should tell you right away which router is having problems. I did exactly that when I had that problem with Time Warner and was able to help them figure out which router was defective (turned out the router was overloaded and dropping packets. they replaced it with one that had twice the capacity and that solved the problem). -b. > > AT&T tech support tells me that they could not find any problem in the line. > Are sending a tech to the customer location to determine what the problem > is. Will keep you posted. > > mkr > > On 4/4/07, WrkWatchr wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > > Behalf > > Of pixelnate > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM > > To: satlug@satlug.org > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > > > My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still > > down. > > They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in > > Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. > > > > ~Nate > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > From: M K Ramadoss > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > > Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT > > Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the > > connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be > > caused > > by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high > > speed. > > I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about > > any local DSL problems? > > > > mkr > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem > > (and > > run around from ATT) > > > > Roy > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From president at satlug.org Wed Apr 4 21:14:34 2007 From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells) Date: Wed Apr 4 21:15:03 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] April 11 Presentation Message-ID: <46145B8A.4080800@satlug.org> Hello all. Since our next meeting is one week from tonight, I would like to inform the membership about the presentation. Othniel Graichen, one of our past presidents, has volunteered to give a presentation on VMWare Server for the meeting on April 11. Jim Wells, President San Antonio Linux Users Group From jfw5cpa at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:19:44 2007 From: jfw5cpa at gmail.com (Jim Wells) Date: Thu Apr 5 09:20:08 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line Message-ID: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install because X is running. Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't seem to work for me. Jim From edcoates at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:34:48 2007 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Thu Apr 5 09:35:12 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> On 4/5/07, Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > > Jim Could try either booting into X, opening up an Xterm and typing init 3. That should take you to the command line. One other possibility is to boot into init 3 when grub comes up. Ed From dryicezero at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:39:08 2007 From: dryicezero at gmail.com (Ernest de Leon) Date: Thu Apr 5 09:39:29 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> you could use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to another term and do what CLI you need there, then use CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to your X session and use CTRL+ALT+BKSP to kill X (which will automatically restart) Ernest On 4/5/07, Ed Coates wrote: > > On 4/5/07, Jim Wells wrote: > > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > > because X is running. > > > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > > seem to work for me. > > > > Jim > Could try either booting into X, opening up an Xterm and typing init > 3. That should take you to the command line. > > One other possibility is to boot into init 3 when grub comes up. > > Ed > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- # Ernest De Leon "If Microsoft is 'flexible' it explains how their head got where it is." From geoff at w5omr.shacknet.nu Thu Apr 5 09:49:41 2007 From: geoff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff) Date: Thu Apr 5 09:52:22 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46150C85.9010902@w5omr.shacknet.nu> Ernest de Leon wrote: > you could use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to another term and do what CLI you need > there, then use CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to your X session and use > CTRL+ALT+BKSP to kill X > (which will automatically restart) Is it just me, or are there a lot of people that just don't realize that Linux is a true Multi-tasking, multi-user Operating System? It's not like Windows, where you -only- have a GUI to play with... most distributions are configured with -at least- 4 different command line interface screens (tty1~4) which are accessible via alt-F1, alt-F2, etc. If you're coming out of the GUI to get to one, then it's Ctrl-Alt-F1, F2, etc.. Some distros have tty10 set to show a continuing stream of /var/log/message entries. There's -so much more- than just the GUI eye-candy. The real nuts-n-bolts in Linux, is found on the command line. Pointing and clicking is (in my opinion) best suited for the Smith and Wesson, Winchester, Colt, etc.. owners. For the original poster, boot yer machine up, and when it's ready for input on the gui, press "Ctrl-Alt-F1", and go to tty1, type, at the prompt, ~> init 3 and that'll shut down your X session, and you can configure the video card. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 10:25:21 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:25:43 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <461514E1.8040905@gmail.com> Ernest de Leon wrote: > you could use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to another term and do what CLI you need > there, then > use CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to your X session and use CTRL+ALT+BKSP to > kill X > (which will automatically restart) This won't work. X is still running. To install the nvidia drivers, X must be shut down. This is just one reason I never use run level 5. I don't know anything about ubuntu though, so I don't know their initialization files. -- Bruce From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 10:30:19 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:30:42 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150C85.9010902@w5omr.shacknet.nu> References: <46150C85.9010902@w5omr.shacknet.nu> Message-ID: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:49:41 -0500, Geoff wrote: > For the original poster, boot yer machine up, and when it's ready for > input on the gui, press "Ctrl-Alt-F1", and go to tty1, type, at the > prompt, > ~> init 3 > > and that'll shut down your X session, and you can configure the video > card. Minor correction. init 3 on Ubuntu based systems still starts X display manager. You can remove the runlevel 3 startup of GDM/KDM/XDM to get appropriate runlevel 3 action (that's what I do). If you don't need network access, you could go to runlevel 1 or boot the recovery kernel listed in GRUB. The final option is to switch to TTY1 as others have said before, stop GDM/KDM/XDM and install your NVIDIA drivers. Here's that process. ++7 $ sudo /etc/init.d/(gdm|kdm|xdm) stop (Install NVIDIA drivers) $ sudo /etc/init.d/(gdm|kdm|xdm) start The Debian/Ubuntu way would be to install the drivers via apt. I personally use Alberto Milone's packages[1]. He has the latest NVIDIA and ATI drivers for Dapper and Edgy, as well as "Legacy" and "New Legacy", but I'm not sure what that means. I've never had a problem with his packages. Hope this helps. [1] http://albertomilone.com/driver.html Cheers, Daniel From dryicezero at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 10:34:07 2007 From: dryicezero at gmail.com (Ernest de Leon) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:34:29 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <461514E1.8040905@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> <461514E1.8040905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <319067990704050834m518e749byf6645eca023cf540@mail.gmail.com> what about sudo pkill gdm? On 4/5/07, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Ernest de Leon wrote: > > you could use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to another term and do what CLI you need > > there, then > > use CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to your X session and use CTRL+ALT+BKSP to > > kill X > > (which will automatically restart) > > This won't work. X is still running. To install the nvidia drivers, X > must be shut down. This is just one reason I never use run level 5. > > I don't know anything about ubuntu though, so I don't know their > initialization files. > > -- Bruce > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- # Ernest De Leon "If Microsoft is 'flexible' it explains how their head got where it is." From jtiner at satx.rr.com Thu Apr 5 10:36:01 2007 From: jtiner at satx.rr.com (James Tiner) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:34:44 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150C85.9010902@w5omr.shacknet.nu> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <8ee65edd0704050734h4ab74914md31a513f5e6b900f@mail.gmail.com> <319067990704050739o417e2dafw8d3139eb8fb8ed3f@mail.gmail.com> <46150C85.9010902@w5omr.shacknet.nu> Message-ID: <1175787361.5262.3.camel@james-desktop> of course, you could tty1 (ctrl+alt+F1) and then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' and that'll shut down X and allow you to install the graphics driver after which you can type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' to get you back into the gui. a little faster than running the init scripts all over again... On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 09:49 -0500, Geoff wrote: > Ernest de Leon wrote: > > you could use CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to another term and do what CLI you need > > there, then use CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to your X session and use > > CTRL+ALT+BKSP to kill X > > (which will automatically restart) > > Is it just me, or are there a lot of people that just don't realize that > Linux is a true Multi-tasking, multi-user Operating System? > > It's not like Windows, where you -only- have a GUI to play with... most > distributions are configured with -at least- 4 different command line > interface screens (tty1~4) which are accessible via alt-F1, alt-F2, > etc. If you're coming out of the GUI to get to one, then it's > Ctrl-Alt-F1, F2, etc.. > > Some distros have tty10 set to show a continuing stream of > /var/log/message entries. > > There's -so much more- than just the GUI eye-candy. The real > nuts-n-bolts in Linux, is found on the command line. > > Pointing and clicking is (in my opinion) best suited for the Smith and > Wesson, Winchester, Colt, etc.. owners. > > For the original poster, boot yer machine up, and when it's ready for > input on the gui, press "Ctrl-Alt-F1", and go to tty1, type, at the prompt, > ~> init 3 > > and that'll shut down your X session, and you can configure the video card. > > -- > A: Yes. > > Q: Are you sure? > >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? > From eli at then7.com Thu Apr 5 10:42:08 2007 From: eli at then7.com (Eli) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:42:34 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <461518D0.4050402@then7.com> in regular ubuntu, you can disable/shut-down gdm, and that takes the gui down. i imagine with kubuntu, that it's kdm install rcconf, a console program, and use it to disable the kdm/gdm startup, and next time you reboot, you should be at a console. to kill the gui without rebooting, just stop the gdm/kdm service. /etc/init.d/gdm stop or /etc/init.d/kdm stop as an alternative to all this you could simply boot to run level 1. i think i've installed nvidia drivers before in run level 1. to do this, when you power on the machine, at grub, use the arrow key to defeat grub countdown timer, then use 'e' key to edit the grub entries (it's just a temporary edit, it's not lasting), and remove quiet/splash options, and add the number '1'. you'll boot to a gui-less single user mode, and you can install nvidia drivers i think. so that's 3 different ways. :-) e Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > > Jim From tbruning at accd.edu Thu Apr 5 10:52:19 2007 From: tbruning at accd.edu (Tod Bruning) Date: Thu Apr 5 10:52:49 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Ubuntu Workshop? In-Reply-To: <20070405142140.B543443E8D0@satlug.org> References: <20070405142140.B543443E8D0@satlug.org> Message-ID: <000601c7779a$6458ab30$62091f0a@pac01.ad.root> Hi All, I was wondering if SATLUG would be interested in running a series of workshops on the most popular Linux distros (starting with Ubuntu 6.10 - since that's what I just installed ;-). I am interested in developing an OSS academy aimed at small businesses in San Antonio, and though I don't see Linux quite yet there in terms of usability, I want to get good at it so I know what I'm talking about. If you already do this, can you tell me when they are? Cheers! Tod Bruning Information Technology Program Manager Corporate and Community Education Palo Alto College 1400 W. Villaret San Antonio, TX 78224 (O) 210.921.5526 (F) 210.921.5328 -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of satlug-request@satlug.org Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:22 AM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: SATLUG Digest, Vol 39, Issue 6 Send SATLUG mailing list submissions to satlug@satlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to satlug-request@satlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at satlug-owner@satlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SATLUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW (scs@worldlinkisp.com) 2. Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW (John Pappas) 3. Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW (Jeremy Mann) 4. RE: Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW (scs@worldlinkisp.com) 5. RE: DSL Problems in San Antonio (WrkWatchr) 6. Re: Linux on CD (Walt DuBose) 7. Re: DSL Problems in San Antonio (M K Ramadoss) 8. Re: DSL Problems in San Antonio (Borries Demeler) 9. April 11 Presentation (Jim Wells) 10. Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line (Jim Wells) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:07:27 -0400 From: "scs@worldlinkisp.com" Subject: RE: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW To: satlug@satlug.org Message-ID: <827e04a710574fdd80113bd7892cd11a.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max will carry these.<< -------------------------------------------------- Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:00:42 -0500 From: "John Pappas" Subject: Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <4c0ec4450704041200hf28b128r6cf7933ffde48bc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, etc) On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > > >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max > will carry these.<< > -------------------------------------------------- > Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 > > Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 > > > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:04:59 -0500 From: "Jeremy Mann" Subject: Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <79ec289f0704041204p4a6c3d37we9aa24e57e4f1ab9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yup, the Altex on 1604 just opened a few months ago to my delight. I can now walk from my house for computer parts if I need something ;) On 4/4/07, John Pappas wrote: > A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & > 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, > etc) > > On 4/4/07, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > > > > > > >>Any office store like Office Depot or Office Max > > will carry these.<< > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks MKR & Jeremy Compusa: 50 @ 17.99 > > > > Office Deport: 5 @$8.99 50 @ $24.99 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:35:50 -0400 From: "scs@worldlinkisp.com" Subject: RE: Re: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Mini Media CDR CDRW To: satlug@satlug.org Message-ID: <92ef79e40b864d4899b98e26d37fb15c.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>Yup, the Altex on 1604 just opened a few months ago to my delight. I can now walk from my house for computer parts if I need something ;) --- >>A little off topic, but define NW SATX. There is an altex off Kyle Seale & >> 1604, so that is pretty NW. There is also Best Buy (Rim, 281/1604, 281/410, ---------------------------------- Like Bandera & 1604, thanks guys, and with Egg-on-Face I recall posting here some months ago (maybe a year) about seeing the Altex construction on 1604. Must be old age, will cruise in from Bandera this weekend, their $3.69 price for pack of five beats everyone's, and five will be more than adequate. Thanks again ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:36:40 -0500 From: "WrkWatchr" Subject: RE: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio To: "'The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of pixelnate Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM To: satlug@satlug.org Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still down. They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. ~Nate ----- Original message ----- From: M K Ramadoss To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be caused by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high speed. I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about any local DSL problems? mkr -- _______________________________________________ I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem (and run around from ATT) Roy ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:28:46 -0500 From: Walt DuBose Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Linux on CD To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: <461450CE.1060802@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Borries Demeler wrote: >>I may be coming in late here, but if I understand it correctly, you are >>trying to make a bootable usb flash ram drive. > > > Not really, I want to do 2 things: > > 1. have a generic way of installing a bootable iso image (a live CD for example) > on a USB stick so the USB essentially behaves the same as the CD > > 2. find some generic instructions (roll my own distro). Tom King > already sent a link that seems to accomplish this - although I have > not tried it (http://linuxgazette.net/113/kapil.html) > > I am still looking for a solution for (1). Installing a standard linux > to a stick is probably the same process as to a harddrive. But I think > it would be cool if I could make it on a compressed fs and using a ramdisk. > To be honest, I may not have the time to investigate further if this is > as extensive as in the link supplied by Tom King. > > Thanks, -Borries > > >>Try using fdisk to create a single partition, then use `mkfs -t ext2 >>/dev/sda1` on that partition. You might want to run tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 >>/dev/sda1 to disable disk checks on startup. >> >>Then install grub directly. >> >>grub >> >>>root (hd1,0) >>>setup (hd1) >> >>Assuming grub recognizes it as hd1 which would be normal if there is >>only one normal disk in the system. >> >>Then create /boot/grub/menu.lst, copy the kernel and other necessary >>files from whatever source you want and you should be ready to go. >> >>Here's a link that does essentially the same thing: >> >>http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/wiki/index.php/Creating_a_bootable_USB_stick >> >> -- Bruce >>-- Here's some information from the Linux Ham radio group. -- Walt A good source of information and installation on loading Linux on a USB Flash drive is the pendrivelinux.com site. They have some lightweight linux versions as well as Ubuntu Edgy. Some are installed through MS OS and some through GNU/Linux OS. If you do it, let us know how it turned out for you. 73, Rick, KV9U ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:20:51 -0500 From: "M K Ramadoss" Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed AT&T tech support tells me that they could not find any problem in the line. Are sending a tech to the customer location to determine what the problem is. Will keep you posted. mkr On 4/4/07, WrkWatchr wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf > Of pixelnate > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM > To: satlug@satlug.org > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still > down. > They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in > Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. > > ~Nate > > ----- Original message ----- > From: M K Ramadoss > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT > Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the > connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be > caused > by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high > speed. > I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about > any local DSL problems? > > mkr > -- > _______________________________________________ > > I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem > (and > run around from ATT) > > Roy > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:23:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Borries Demeler Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio To: satlug@satlug.org Message-ID: <200704050123.l351NKA0021563@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you guys run a traceroute? Where does it get stuck? that should tell you right away which router is having problems. I did exactly that when I had that problem with Time Warner and was able to help them figure out which router was defective (turned out the router was overloaded and dropping packets. they replaced it with one that had twice the capacity and that solved the problem). -b. > > AT&T tech support tells me that they could not find any problem in the line. > Are sending a tech to the customer location to determine what the problem > is. Will keep you posted. > > mkr > > On 4/4/07, WrkWatchr wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > > Behalf > > Of pixelnate > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:23 AM > > To: satlug@satlug.org > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > > > My Dad's connection went down last Friday, and as of Monday was still > > down. > > They told him it was a problem with the router in his area. He lives in > > Encino Park. Don't know if it ever got up and running again. > > > > ~Nate > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > From: M K Ramadoss > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > > Sent: Wed Apr 4 2007 10:53:56 AM CDT > > Subject: [SATLUG] DSL Problems in San Antonio > > Since yesterday I noticed very slow DSL and according to AT&T, the > > connection between their office and my building is ok and seems to be > > caused > > by my computer; but in the eveining it started running at normal high > > speed. > > I suspect the problem may be with the AT&T servers. Has anyone heard about > > any local DSL problems? > > > > mkr > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > I have a friend up at 281 and Henderson Pass with exactly same problem > > (and > > run around from ATT) > > > > Roy > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:14:34 -0500 From: Jim Wells Subject: [SATLUG] April 11 Presentation To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Message-ID: <46145B8A.4080800@satlug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello all. Since our next meeting is one week from tonight, I would like to inform the membership about the presentation. Othniel Graichen, one of our past presidents, has volunteered to give a presentation on VMWare Server for the meeting on April 11. Jim Wells, President San Antonio Linux Users Group ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:19:44 -0500 From: Jim Wells Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Message-ID: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install because X is running. Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't seem to work for me. Jim ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug Powered by Rackspace (http://rackspace.com) End of SATLUG Digest, Vol 39, Issue 6 ************************************* From david.salisbury at momentumweb.com Thu Apr 5 12:29:31 2007 From: david.salisbury at momentumweb.com (David Salisbury) Date: Thu Apr 5 12:30:05 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs Message-ID: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Hey fellow SATLUGgers! I'm trying to get something working on a Linux box that I have, and so far no luck. Basically I have a box with two NICs and two different providers, one for each NIC (Cable and DSL, say). Both have static IPs and can be pinged successfully from elsewhere in the world. However, if I try to access a web server I have running on the box (which IS bound to each interface in the web server conf), it works over the DSL interface (eth0) but not the RR one (eth1). It seems to me, based on the routing table below, that that's because packets coming in over eth1 try to get back out over eth0 since that's the default route. I've tried adding another default route with the other RR gateway IP for the eth1 interface, but that just confuses the box and makes both routes not work. Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface * U 0 0 0 eth1 * U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Basically I'm doing this for reduncancy's sake, so if one connection goes down you could still access the box through the other one. I think I basically just need to make Linux route the packets based on the interface they come in on (so they go out on the one they came in on), but so far no luck on finding how to do this. Has anyone had any luck trying to do something like this? David PS I have checked out the following link: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html But don't know how to translate that info into my routing table, or if I can? PPS Sorry for the font, just want to make sure the routing table shows up easy to read! From leon36 at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 12:44:18 2007 From: leon36 at gmail.com (Samuel Leon) Date: Thu Apr 5 12:44:47 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> References: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Message-ID: <46153572.3060506@gmail.com> David Salisbury wrote: > Hey fellow SATLUGgers! > > I'm trying to get something working on a Linux box that I have, and so far no luck. Basically I have a box with two NICs and two different providers, one for each NIC (Cable and DSL, say). Both have static IPs and can be pinged successfully from elsewhere in the world. However, if I try to access a web server I have running on the box (which IS bound to each interface in the web server conf), it works over the DSL interface (eth0) but not the RR one (eth1). > > It seems to me, based on the routing table below, that that's because packets coming in over eth1 try to get back out over eth0 since that's the default route. I've tried adding another default route with the other RR gateway IP for the eth1 interface, but that just confuses the box and makes both routes not work. > > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > * U 0 0 0 eth1 > * U 0 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > default 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > > Basically I'm doing this for reduncancy's sake, so if one connection goes down you could still access the box through the other one. I think I basically just need to make Linux route the packets based on the interface they come in on (so they go out on the one they came in on), but so far no luck on finding how to do this. Has anyone had any luck trying to do something like this? > > David > > PS I have checked out the following link: > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html > But don't know how to translate that info into my routing table, or if I can? > > PPS Sorry for the font, just want to make sure the routing table shows up easy to read! > I will be doing something similar (someday). I haven't tried it yet and the only resources I have are: http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4820 _http://www.netlife.co.za/content/view/47/34/ Sam _ From leon36 at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 12:48:26 2007 From: leon36 at gmail.com (Samuel Leon) Date: Thu Apr 5 12:48:51 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4615366A.5090201@gmail.com> Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > > Jim > You can try deleting kdm from /etc/rc2.d. That's kind of the improper way but it works for me :D Sam From edcoates at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 13:33:22 2007 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Thu Apr 5 13:33:45 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> References: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Message-ID: <8ee65edd0704051133y15d4e930j5ae357312173ee6d@mail.gmail.com> On 4/5/07, David Salisbury wrote: > Hey fellow SATLUGgers! > > I'm trying to get something working on a Linux box that I have, and so far no luck. Basically I have a box with two NICs and two different providers, one for each NIC (Cable and DSL, say). Both have static IPs and can be pinged successfully from elsewhere in the world. However, if I try to access a web server I have running on the box (which IS bound to each interface in the web server conf), it works over the DSL interface (eth0) but not the RR one (eth1). Is it possible that RR is blocking port 80? Have you tried making it listen on a different port say 8080, or 81 on that interface and IP? Ed From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 14:05:36 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Thu Apr 5 14:05:59 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <4615366A.5090201@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <4615366A.5090201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> Samuel Leon wrote: > > > Jim Wells wrote: >> I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having >> no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it >> doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install >> because X is running. >> >> Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't >> seem to work for me. >> >> Jim >> > > You can try deleting kdm from /etc/rc2.d. That's kind of the improper > way but it works for me :D Why is that improper? That's the way any sysV compatible system controls what processes start in each run level. -- Bruce From brad at shub-internet.org Thu Apr 5 15:25:00 2007 From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Thu Apr 5 15:47:51 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <8ee65edd0704051133y15d4e930j5ae357312173ee6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> <8ee65edd0704051133y15d4e930j5ae357312173ee6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 1:33 PM -0500 4/5/07, Ed Coates wrote: > Is it possible that RR is blocking port 80? Have you tried making it > listen on a different port say 8080, or 81 on that interface and IP? Yeah, RR is well-known for blocking all kinds of service ports on their residential lines, but their enforcement of these rules tends to be very spotty. If you pay lots more money and get a business account through them, they shouldn't be blocking you at all. -- Brad Knowles , Consultant & Author LinkedIn Profile: Slides from Invited Talks: From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 15:56:58 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 15:57:20 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> References: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:05:36 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Samuel Leon wrote: >> >> >> Jim Wells wrote: >> You can try deleting kdm from /etc/rc2.d. That's kind of the improper >> way but it works for me :D > > Why is that improper? That's the way any sysV compatible system > controls what processes start in each run level. When you use update-rc.d, the "proper" tool, it simply creates or deletes the symlinks for you. So if you wanted runlevel 3 to not have KDM/GDM/XDM start up, you could delete it and it would be just as right as using update-rc.d. It is just a symbolic link so how you get rid of it doesn't really matter. From david.salisbury at momentumweb.com Thu Apr 5 15:57:28 2007 From: david.salisbury at momentumweb.com (David Salisbury) Date: Thu Apr 5 15:57:56 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs References: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst><8ee65edd0704051133y15d4e930j5ae357312173ee6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06cc01c777c5$051abed0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> ----- Original Message ----- >> Is it possible that RR is blocking port 80? Have you tried making it >> listen on a different port say 8080, or 81 on that interface and IP? > > Yeah, RR is well-known for blocking all kinds of service ports on their > residential lines, but their enforcement of these rules tends to be very > spotty. If you pay lots more money and get a business account through > them, they shouldn't be blocking you at all. Well, it IS a business account actually, and it's not just port 80 that has the problem. It does it with FTP and several other services as well! Pretty much anything that I try. Also, I've tried pinging various things from the box with the command "ping -I eth1 " to force the pings to go out the eth1 interface, and I get a "Destination unreachable" message when I do that (which seems like that's what SHOULD happen since there's no route for the packets). If I could just figure out how to add the correct route, or perhaps set up an additional routing table..... hmm. David From leon36 at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 16:07:37 2007 From: leon36 at gmail.com (Samuel Leon) Date: Thu Apr 5 16:07:57 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: References: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46156519.5090708@gmail.com> Daniel J. Givens wrote: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:05:36 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Samuel Leon wrote: >> >>> Jim Wells wrote: >>> You can try deleting kdm from /etc/rc2.d. That's kind of the improper >>> way but it works for me :D >>> >> Why is that improper? That's the way any sysV compatible system >> controls what processes start in each run level. >> > > When you use update-rc.d, the "proper" tool, it simply creates or deletes the symlinks for you. So if you wanted runlevel 3 to not have KDM/GDM/XDM start up, you could delete it and it would be just as right as using update-rc.d. It is just a symbolic link so how you get rid of it doesn't really matter. > Yes that is the proper way. I can never remember the command. Sam From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 16:07:39 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 16:08:02 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs Message-ID: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:29:31 -0500, "David Salisbury" wrote: > I'm trying to get something working on a Linux box that I have, and so far > no luck. Basically I have a box with two NICs and two different providers, > one for each NIC (Cable and DSL, say). Both have static IPs and can be > pinged successfully from elsewhere in the world. However, if I try to > access a web server I have running on the box (which IS bound to each > interface in the web server conf), it works over the DSL interface (eth0) > but not the RR one (eth1). Chances are, RR is blocking port 80 inbound. You'll probably find that 25 is also blocked outbound to anything other than their SMTP servers. If you want to email me directly with your IP, I'll do a port scan on you and send you the results. If all you want is a fail-over connection, then you would setup two default gateways, with one having a lower metric than the other. The lower metric would mean that connection would be "preferred". In theory, if you setup both default gateways with the same metric, you would get round-robin load balanced routing. You could try that or try GNU/Zebra[1]. I tried something similar a while back, but that was just for using two outbound connections. One thing you might try, assuming port 80 inbound is allowed on RR, is to setup round robin DNS. That would be the only real way you could get load balancing unless you had some sort of routing protocol action going on with your ISPs. Basically, the rest of the Internet would need to know how to get to your network through all of your ISPs. The best you can hope for is load balanced inbound connection using round robin DNS and load balanced outbound connections through round robin routing. From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 16:09:24 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 16:09:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <06cc01c777c5$051abed0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> References: <06cc01c777c5$051abed0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:57:28 -0500, "David Salisbury" wrote: > Well, it IS a business account actually, and it's not just port 80 that > has > the problem. It does it with FTP and several other services as well! > Pretty much anything that I try. Also, I've tried pinging various things > from the box with the command "ping -I eth1 " to force the > pings to go out the eth1 interface, and I get a "Destination unreachable" > message when I do that (which seems like that's what SHOULD happen since > there's no route for the packets). If I could just figure out how to add > the correct route, or perhaps set up an additional routing table..... hmm. > That's because your eth1 doesn't have a valid default route. The one you have now is only for your eth0. See my previous post. From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 16:11:43 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 16:12:05 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:07:39 -0500, Daniel J. Givens wrote: > If all you want is a fail-over connection, then you would setup two > default gateways, with one having a lower metric than the other. The lower > metric would mean that connection would be "preferred". In theory, if you > setup both default gateways with the same metric, you would get > round-robin load balanced routing. You could try that or try GNU/Zebra[1]. > I tried something similar a while back, but that was just for using two > outbound connections. Forgot the link. [1] http://www.zebra.org Also, pardon my emails for being not wrapped. I'm using a webmail client that doesn't do my 80 character wrap automagically. From dkowis at shlrm.org Thu Apr 5 16:30:32 2007 From: dkowis at shlrm.org (David Kowis) Date: Thu Apr 5 16:30:25 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> References: <042701c777a7$f8ca9be0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Message-ID: <46156A78.5010207@shlrm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 David Salisbury wrote: > Hey fellow SATLUGgers! > > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > * U 0 0 0 eth1 > * U 0 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > default 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > > > David > > PS I have checked out the following link: > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html > But don't know how to translate that info into my routing table, or if I can? > > PPS Sorry for the font, just want to make sure the routing table shows up easy to read! I use shorewall. http://www.shorewall.net/MultiISP.html They've got a document for it. Shorewall is a great frontend to IPTables and makes things lots easier. Perhaps that will help. It's all config file based, so you don't need any GUI tools to run it. You can run less on your firewall, which is a good thing ;) David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iQGVAwUBRhVqeMnf+vRw63ObAQodMQv+JeUzLlPuyghvmfT31tnTsPK1Ga6UHkhi WqL0ML++kcLC1q+KsQ16G1oTT/+R8EBgAfTNgusyY3HsoKEwIXpZ+sGn5m6H5Wpc v6PrFE5kcSx0+ZMJAuI4o2GPz0TrhzgHia7oo4iZZMMYmTU28yGc3qE5UaRM6X3Z /AOsz0k7LyCWd9tboWaju5/zlDjxa4k7j7lNQTu/ppTBrt0KBhkcui579Dq7WQTH ngmutgirdwtxZGYhQAq7UeDWs7bmqVuVaEV/64RhNQX7+ud/Uszt4f0lBmZiYKRV d3MgYDmfghDQN1wXrpKoF96cz84WoDTxrXAZsxdDIHi8tx78Qg8E73irpPyVTlOG tzGN5Pk4j401aW4DC6xmzTyOML/HolA0xr8Mpinfmv6UxRqzeJFwNnycqMsdNzhv ev8mrwcxbEjrxq1pbnC7T+COSfM8GzK9UAioNGtRSozjWtjXV0Y+oOYrlH17iSCd 1JnEODC+1FfwJ2kDWAC3P7ngADivQcTv =67EM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 17:07:57 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Thu Apr 5 17:08:20 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: References: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4615733D.60704@gmail.com> Daniel J. Givens wrote: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:05:36 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Samuel Leon wrote: >>> >>> Jim Wells wrote: >>> You can try deleting kdm from /etc/rc2.d. That's kind of the improper >>> way but it works for me :D >> Why is that improper? That's the way any sysV compatible system >> controls what processes start in each run level. > > When you use update-rc.d, the "proper" tool, it simply creates or deletes the symlinks for you. So if you wanted runlevel 3 to not have KDM/GDM/XDM start up, you could delete it and it would be just as right as using update-rc.d. With all due respect, baloney. There is no "proper" tool. Ever heard of ksysv from KDE? How about tksysv? There are lots of front ends to manage the startup scripts. They are all basically front ends for rm and ln -s. *None* are the "proper" tool. It's all personal preference. > It is just a symbolic link so how you get rid of it doesn't really > matter. That I agree with. -- Bruce From herbc at txcyber.com Thu Apr 5 17:13:58 2007 From: herbc at txcyber.com (Herb) Date: Thu Apr 5 17:14:34 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <461574A6.5060003@txcyber.com> Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > > Jim > April 5, 2007 (5:10pm))Wow, I just read all the response to this topic. Many thanks to all of you who participated in this exchange so far. I sure hope a few other newbees like meself got as much out of that as I did, it flipped a couple lights on for me. Really points to just how powerful this system is ... I just learned how to talk to myself digit-wise, lol. It also made a lot more clear how the role of root is tied to the kernel and how neat it is to be able to open those terminals right from same keyboard, don?t even need a KVMsw. Big Thanks, Herb From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 17:48:32 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 17:50:10 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <4615733D.60704@gmail.com> References: <46154880.6040300@gmail.com> <4615733D.60704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46157CC0.9080605@rugmonster.org> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > With all due respect, baloney. There is no "proper" tool. That's why I put it in quotations. Ubuntu and Debian use the update-rc.d utility to manage the runlevel symlinks. So if you wanted to use the Ubuntu/Debian way, you would use that tool. There are times that update-rc.d is helpful, but not when you're creating/deleting single symlinks. From daniel at rugmonster.org Thu Apr 5 17:50:09 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Thu Apr 5 17:51:47 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <461574A6.5060003@txcyber.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <461574A6.5060003@txcyber.com> Message-ID: <46157D21.8020109@rugmonster.org> Herb wrote: > It also made a lot more clear how the role of root is tied to the kernel > and how neat it is to be able to open those terminals right from same > keyboard, don?t even need a KVMsw. Now go look into screen[1]. Have multiple virtual terminals on a single virtual terminal! Make sense? :-P [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ From chmims at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 19:22:47 2007 From: chmims at gmail.com (Charles Mims) Date: Thu Apr 5 19:23:11 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9e4edf580704051722o40afc356s849363655553e7b1@mail.gmail.com> If you are using grub and want to install nvidia drivers I did it this way. When grub comes up edit the kernel line putting 'linux 3' at the end. This worked for me. To edit grub push 'e' when it starts and follow directions. Changes are not permanent. On 4/5/07, Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > > Jim > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From eli at then7.com Thu Apr 5 20:00:05 2007 From: eli at then7.com (Eli Cantu) Date: Thu Apr 5 20:00:41 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <9e4edf580704051722o40afc356s849363655553e7b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> <9e4edf580704051722o40afc356s849363655553e7b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38617.76.184.78.194.1175821205.squirrel@76.184.78.194> Charles, your suggestion is a good one. It's almost exactly what I suggested about 7 messages earlier in the thread. ;-) Only thing though, I believe you need run level 1. 2 is default in ubuntu, and 3 is the same as 2, as is 4 and 5. So run level 3 will result in X starting, just like 2. Also I don't use the "linux 1" option, I just add the "1" to the end, but I like taking off the "splash" and "quiet" options. So if the grub line looks like this normally: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash I'd change it to: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda3 ro 1 reason for removing quiet and splash, is that we're booting to console anyway, might as well see the regular linux bootup stuff, instead of hiding it and running the ubuntu splash screen. e On Thu, April 5, 2007 7:22 pm, Charles Mims said: > If you are using grub and want to install nvidia drivers I did it this > way. When grub comes up edit the kernel line putting 'linux 3' at > the end. This worked for me. To edit grub push 'e' when it starts > and follow directions. Changes are not permanent. From satlugacct at jchampion.com Thu Apr 5 20:13:47 2007 From: satlugacct at jchampion.com (satlugacct@jchampion.com) Date: Thu Apr 5 20:10:28 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Mandriva on a 4GB flash drive Message-ID: <20070405201347.vx46q454qsgwo4ok@webmail.jchampion.com> I've gotten the following email from Mandriva regarding their latest; Mandriva linux on a 4GB flash. Sounds...promising... Mandriva has launched the 4GB version of Mandriva Flash, its live flash drive! Mandriva Flash 2GB, which was released in December 2006, was a true success. It was sold out in less than two weeks! Mandriva has listen to user feedback and decided to develop a new version of its best seller flash drive. Mandriva Flash 4GB still provides a full-featured system - Mandriva Linux 2007 KDE 32-bit - that requires no installation, on a bootable USB 2.0 key. All you have to do is plug in the USB key, turn the PC on and the Mandriva Linux operating system is ready to use in no time, with all you need for office work, Internet and multimedia tasks. System configuration, preferences and data are all saved to the key. The main advantage of Mandriva Flash 4GB is that there is only one 4GB FAT partition and you decide how to divide it between the system and the share partitions. At first boot, you are asked to allocate space for your system. For instance, you can allocate up to 3GB for your system and keep the rest of the free space for your personal documents. Freedom is a choice! Mandriva Flash 4GB has also been updated with all recent updates for Mandriva Linux 2007 and you will be able to upgrade your key to Mandriva Linux 2007 Spring, the upcoming new release of your favorite distribution! Get more information at: http://www.mandriva.com/linux/2007/flash Mandriva offers free shipping all over the world! Take advantage of the free shipping, don't miss this special offer and order now: http://store.mandriva.com/product_info.php?products_id=277 15% discounts will be granted to Club members on Mandriva Flash 4GB! If you want to benefit from all the advantages of the Club and get this 15% discount on the Mandriva Flash 4GB, join the Club now! http://www.mandriva.com/en/community/resources/club The Mandriva Team From jbharrell at fusemeister.com Thu Apr 5 20:53:23 2007 From: jbharrell at fusemeister.com (Brinkley Harrell) Date: Thu Apr 5 20:53:55 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Booting Kubuntu 6.10 into Command Line In-Reply-To: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> References: <46150580.8020804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4615A813.1080608@fusemeister.com> Jim Wells wrote: > I am trying to get Kubuntu to boot into Command Line mode but am having > no luck whatsover. I looked first for /etc/inittab but in Kubuntu it > doesn't exist. I need to install the NVIDIA driver but it won't install > because X is running. > > Any ideas? I've used Google & found several suggestions but they don't > seem to work for me. > All of the solutions just point out that there's many ways to accomplish the same thing in Linux. However, you really want a minimal configuration without X so you can install the driver. Just use the CTRL + ALT + F1 sequence everyone has suggested before. Login into the system and type: sudo /sbin/init 1 to place the system in single user maintenance mode. When done, either press CTRL + ALT + DEL to reboot or type: /sbin/init 6 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brinkley Harrell http://www.fusemeister.com From mkr777 at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 22:15:14 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Thu Apr 5 22:15:36 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL - San Antonio - Problem Update Message-ID: The problem of very slow down and up load & surfing on the DSL that my friend faced was quite unusual and AT&T is expected to fix tomorrow. They worked all day long. From AT&T side, everything looks normal. At customer end, the modem and the line were checked, but brower was running at crawling speed - 22kbs as against 2.5Mps.. The problem appears to be the controller at the telco office and they are expected to replace the controller tomorrow. There appears to be 4 lines connected to the controller and others seem ok except my friend's line. Will keep you posted. From e2eiod at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 23:41:47 2007 From: e2eiod at gmail.com (Robert Pearson) Date: Thu Apr 5 23:42:10 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Mandriva on a 4GB flash drive In-Reply-To: <20070405201347.vx46q454qsgwo4ok@webmail.jchampion.com> References: <20070405201347.vx46q454qsgwo4ok@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: On 4/5/07, satlugacct@jchampion.com wrote: > I've gotten the following email from Mandriva regarding their latest; > Mandriva linux on a 4GB flash. Sounds...promising... > > > Mandriva has launched the 4GB version of Mandriva Flash, its live > flash drive! > > Mandriva Flash 2GB, which was released in December 2006, was a true > success. It was sold out in less than two weeks! Mandriva has listen > to user feedback and decided to develop a new version of its best > seller flash drive. > > Mandriva Flash 4GB still provides a full-featured system - Mandriva > Linux 2007 KDE 32-bit - that requires no installation, on a bootable > USB 2.0 key. All you have to do is plug in the USB key, turn the PC on > and the Mandriva Linux operating system is ready to use in no time, > with all you need for office work, Internet and multimedia > tasks. System configuration, preferences and data are all saved to the > key. > > The main advantage of Mandriva Flash 4GB is that there is only one 4GB > FAT partition and you decide how to divide it between the system and > the share partitions. At first boot, you are asked to allocate space > for your system. For instance, you can allocate up to 3GB for your > system and keep the rest of the free space for your personal > documents. Freedom is a choice! > > Mandriva Flash 4GB has also been updated with all recent updates for > Mandriva Linux 2007 and you will be able to upgrade your key to > Mandriva Linux 2007 Spring, the upcoming new release of your favorite > distribution! > > Get more information at: http://www.mandriva.com/linux/2007/flash FYI... This link is on the SATLUG Wiki at: http://www.satlug.org/wiki/index.php/SSD_-_Solid_State_Disk along with much more SSD, Flash and Microdrive info... > > Mandriva offers free shipping all over the world! Take advantage of > the free shipping, don't miss this special offer and order now: > > http://store.mandriva.com/product_info.php?products_id=277 > > 15% discounts will be granted to Club members on Mandriva Flash 4GB! > If you want to benefit from all the advantages of the Club and get > this 15% discount on the Mandriva Flash 4GB, join the Club now! > > http://www.mandriva.com/en/community/resources/club > > The Mandriva Team From daniel at rugmonster.org Fri Apr 6 00:23:19 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Fri Apr 6 00:24:56 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> I wrote: >> In theory, if you >> setup both default gateways with the same metric, you would get >> round-robin load balanced routing. I've been playing with doing equalized multipath routing tonight using the ip route commands and found some interesting things out. The Advanced Routing page is the right path. I've had an issue with multipath route caching though and only one of my routes is being used. Apparently, there is a kernel option that is messing me up, so I'm recompiling now. If CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED is enabled, for some reason, it won't load balance. It will fail-over, but it won't load balance. I will let you know how it goes tomorrow night when I get the new kernel installed and routing tested. From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 01:39:07 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Apr 6 01:39:30 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <4615EB0B.90006@gmail.com> Daniel J. Givens wrote: > I wrote: >>> In theory, if you >>> setup both default gateways with the same metric, you would get >>> round-robin load balanced routing. > > I've been playing with doing equalized multipath routing tonight using > the ip route commands and found some interesting things out. The > Advanced Routing page is the right path. I've had an issue with > multipath route caching though and only one of my routes is being used. > Apparently, there is a kernel option that is messing me up, so I'm > recompiling now. If CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED is enabled, for > some reason, it won't load balance. It will fail-over, but it won't load > balance. I will let you know how it goes tomorrow night when I get the > new kernel installed and routing tested. This is interesting. Where do you find CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED? I looked in the kernel configuration and couldn't find it. I looked in 2.6.20.3 and 2.6.12.5. Grepping through the source, I can find it for the arm and mips architectures, and even something called the SuperH RISC processor for embedded systems but not for Intel. -- Bruce From daniel at rugmonster.org Fri Apr 6 06:37:44 2007 From: daniel at rugmonster.org (Daniel J. Givens) Date: Fri Apr 6 06:39:20 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <4615EB0B.90006@gmail.com> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> <4615EB0B.90006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46163108.4030804@rugmonster.org> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > This is interesting. Where do you find > CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED? I looked in the kernel configuration > and couldn't find it. I looked in 2.6.20.3 and 2.6.12.5. Got it in the 2.6.17 kernel from Ubuntu Edgy. It is also in Debian Etch. Do you have Experimental options turned on? From geoff at w5omr.shacknet.nu Fri Apr 6 07:12:31 2007 From: geoff at w5omr.shacknet.nu (Geoff) Date: Fri Apr 6 07:15:11 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Mandriva on a 4GB flash drive In-Reply-To: References: <20070405201347.vx46q454qsgwo4ok@webmail.jchampion.com> Message-ID: <4616392F.7050207@w5omr.shacknet.nu> Robert Pearson wrote: > On 4/5/07, satlugacct@jchampion.com wrote: >> I've gotten the following email from Mandriva regarding their latest; >> Mandriva linux on a 4GB flash. Sounds...promising... >> >> >> Mandriva has launched the 4GB version of Mandriva Flash, its live >> flash drive! >> >> Mandriva Flash 4GB!- A 3D Desktop in your pocket >> Free shipping! >> >> USD-99.00 From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 08:57:44 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Apr 6 08:58:07 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <46163108.4030804@rugmonster.org> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org> <285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> <4615EB0B.90006@gmail.com> <46163108.4030804@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <461651D8.8090206@gmail.com> Daniel J. Givens wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> This is interesting. Where do you find >> CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED? I looked in the kernel configuration >> and couldn't find it. I looked in 2.6.20.3 and 2.6.12.5. > > Got it in the 2.6.17 kernel from Ubuntu Edgy. It is also in Debian Etch. > Do you have Experimental options turned on? Curious. I always get my kernel source directly from www.kernel.org. I do have the option "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" turned on and a lot of options have "(EXPERIMENTAL)" listed. I'm looking specifically at --> Networking --> Networking options, but I don't see anything about CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED. Looking at the .config file, I see several options like CONFIG_IP..., but the closest I see is '# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set', but that does not seem to be related. -- Bruce From nathan at gvtc.com Fri Apr 6 09:27:45 2007 From: nathan at gvtc.com (nathan@gvtc.com) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:28:11 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Parking at SAC for SATLUG meeting Message-ID: <20070406092745.q00mnmpggk448g0k@webmail.gvtc.com> Has the parking ticket problem at SAC been solved? Nathan From luis at luisgarza.com Fri Apr 6 09:41:38 2007 From: luis at luisgarza.com (Luis Garza) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:43:24 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL - San Antonio - Problem Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4451.192.168.2.1.1175870498.squirrel@luisgarza.com> Yeah I head that exact same thing before. But the reality is that they either pull and reset the card or replace it with one that was pulled before. I have had problems off and on with DSL for the past 2 years. They kept promising that the card will be replace. So I went down the road and found the SBC truck working on the problem. I stopped and asked them if they were replacing the controller with a new card. They said that they have too many calls so they were just going to reset the card. M K Ramadoss wrote: > The problem of very slow down and up load & surfing on the DSL that my > friend faced was quite unusual and AT&T is expected to fix tomorrow. They > worked all day long. From AT&T side, everything looks normal. At customer > end, the modem and the line were checked, but brower was running at > crawling > speed - 22kbs as against 2.5Mps.. The problem appears to be the controller > at the telco office and they are expected to replace the controller > tomorrow. There appears to be 4 lines connected to the controller and > others > seem ok except my friend's line. Will keep you posted. > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > Luis Garza www.luisgarza.com luis@luisgarza.com lrgarza2000@yahoo.com From david.salisbury at momentumweb.com Fri Apr 6 10:30:31 2007 From: david.salisbury at momentumweb.com (David Salisbury) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:31:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] **SOLVED** Routing from one box to two different ISPs References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org><285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> Message-ID: <015001c77860$82e6dd30$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Well, now I've got it working!! Using the guide at the link that I had mentioned before: http://tldp.org:80/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html I now have a new routing table: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 * U 0 0 0 eth1 * U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 And that routing table, coupled with the ruleset of 2 rules mentioned in the link above, has now created the correct traffic flow to the box! All of its functions seems to work from both interfaces now (web, etc). Cool!! Thanks for everyone's help and input! Now I will look into the multipathing that you brought up, Daniel, because I am also interested in fallback connections and the like. David From masterr at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 11:36:58 2007 From: masterr at gmail.com (Jonathan Hull) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:37:21 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] wiki hacking and a proposed countermeasure In-Reply-To: <46034CBE.5000302@shlrm.org> References: <45FEE15E.2060107@gmail.com> <45FF0723.6040302@shlrm.org> <45FF1308.5070101@gmail.com> <45FF13ED.3010102@gmail.com> <45FF17EA.70903@gmail.com> <3783.72.183.114.212.1174433110.squirrel@tomslinux.homelinux.org> <33853de0703201945hb992809o3445121b1213ec27@mail.gmail.com> <277020fc0703211040n660eddaep71077c9b67e5e18a@mail.gmail.com> <46034CBE.5000302@shlrm.org> Message-ID: <14842c410704060936o13a75476l6e5739a52edf8c8c@mail.gmail.com> What about a CAPTCHA. Possibly require it to make a user or when posting anonymously. On 3/22/07, David Kowis wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Sean Carolan wrote: > > On 3/20/07, Richard Ward wrote: > >> Black listing of IP's would thwart only the most novice hacker if it > >> is his > >> goal to hack your site. > >> 1. He could use Tor, the onion router, to get an IP address inside > the > >> state of Texas for instance. > >> 2. He could rent space on a shared server lets say in San > Antonio. Then > >> using ssh from IP on his shared server he could easily launch an > attack. > >> > >> Blacklisting is not really a solution at all. > >> > > > > We are not talking about hardcore blackhats assaulting the SATLUG web > > server. The vast majority of wiki and forum spam is done by automated > > bots. Why would someone use Tor or pay for a shared server in San > > Antonio, simply to deface a local LUG's wiki? What financial or other > > incentive would there be for going to that length? > > > > I think blacklisting is a great solution - it effectively blocks out > > most of the ip addresses where the spam/defacing bots are located. > > > Aren't most of the bots located in the US and china? > > Yay! we'll block a small percentage of the bots! Yay! > > Having more secure software is a much better solution than security > through obscurity. Now, before you argue, "we're not hiding anything!" > We are, from certain IPs. We're not fixing the problem, we're not even > attempting to fix the problem, we're putting a piece of tape over the > "check engine" light. We're avoiding the problem entirely. > > Blacklisting is not a good solution. > > David > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iQGVAwUBRgNMvcnf+vRw63ObAQpaQQwArCN7Pzl5GsExWOesf5WYq4+CdiluwE0Y > uC8xTDIGk/3JTNZMtmyYxU6YQfPDPFknR6dPSy1BLVQroo7k+W3sNjyZgwXc0ryV > juU/c6oxEuDfPvv6yiudJRV+NBAo5qI7mklT/Vl0DZ0FlBxFDDznPImq0R7NYd8p > glwL8iHesWPzN1WWMipq5zbx8Gw8m9BDgc9/hbM31kQp0KVJ+EErQj9/JmM8zyff > uK/QWBEx34Sn2b6G9CR8R0WLTbrC4kcGJyZin4aHALRzSyWCSE4yRxjujWQen1Mq > FWTPZUYypzyJqkrxctuSerjKn1lR/GuIh7nHI5pPCrEtgmWkWN3yRIugw7D/VP8g > 3+hNvJ6hwBL8Dc2fiVsCsLcpP6YSaSadsedq3S6I1QTkI44HqrGy2dtEs43tYjR6 > deuWbLmbW4Y5mBNwnE2F8hgpFUeAcHnWqJ7l7apGHTnOrbdi1xQQvzadU5Bcmta1 > OHwV/uVCj8pQKBGQ1rgmyak043sK9zeE > =fTmN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 12:38:45 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:39:08 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] **SOLVED** Routing from one box to two different ISPs In-Reply-To: <015001c77860$82e6dd30$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> References: <3833a331be8c9a81d78736c6755c0a6d@rugmonster.org><285f85dbb08305f1d3ab72c4c2511d2d@rugmonster.org> <4615D947.1000201@rugmonster.org> <015001c77860$82e6dd30$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Message-ID: <461685A5.7070705@gmail.com> David Salisbury wrote: > Well, now I've got it working!! Using the guide at the link that I had mentioned before: > > http://tldp.org:80/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html > > I now have a new routing table: > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 > * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth1 > * U 0 0 0 eth1 > * U 0 0 0 eth0 > 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > default 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > > And that routing table, coupled with the ruleset of 2 rules mentioned in the link above, has now created the correct traffic flow to the box! All of its functions seems to work from both interfaces now (web, etc). Cool!! Thanks for everyone's help and input! Now I will look into the multipathing that you brought up, Daniel, because I am also interested in fallback connections and the like. Are the first two entries necessary? Since the mask is /32, the only thing they are being routed to is whatever entry you have for explicitly. For example, my DSL segment gives: 64.123.68.0 * 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 If I used a netmask of /32 instead of /22, it would only match 64.123.68.0 and that is not a host so it would never be used. Also, I don't think you are using RR for any outgoing packets except those addresses that match /. I don't think that's what you intended. Unless I'm mistaken, you really need two gateways to do what you want. Also, I think your definitions of Netmask and Broadcast in column one are not the standard for netmask and broadcast. For example, the netmask for my DSL above is 255.255.252.0 and the broadcast is 64.123.71.255. Neither makes any sense for a Destination. -- Bruce From mkr777 at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 12:55:34 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:55:56 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] DSL - San Antonio - Problem Update In-Reply-To: <4451.192.168.2.1.1175870498.squirrel@luisgarza.com> References: <4451.192.168.2.1.1175870498.squirrel@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: Hi They reset