[SATLUG] Laser printers can pollute more than tobacco smoke

Thu Aug 2 09:57:47 CDT 2007

Interesting stuff Herb.  I have never heard of that before.

Ernest

On 8/2/07, herb cee <hc at lookcee.com> wrote:
>
> Ernest de Leon wrote:
> > Well that all depends on how you quantify easy.  If you are speaking
> > strictly of the odor and possible nasal reaction, then I could see where
> it
> > would be easier to handle laser printer emissions.  If you are speaking
> of
> > long term health effects, however, in a situation where the laser
> printer
> > emissions *may* pollute more than second hand tobacco smoke, then the
> choice
> > is not so obvious.  Cyanide and natural gas, after all, are odorless,
> but I
> > wouldn't say that I would choose exposure to either over exposure to
> second
> > hand tobacco smoke.  I am not defending tobacco smoke at all.  I have
> very
> > sensitive allergies and I absolutely cannot stand tobacco smoke or the
> > after-smell that the American Lung Cancer Association drags into the
> > building consistently.  I was more than elated when they banned smoking
> in
> > just about all public locations.  I will be even happier when employers
> ban
> > the use of tobacco during work hours period.
> >
> > Ernest
> >
> > On 8/1/07, Charles Mims <chmims at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If given a choice whether to stay in a room with a smoker or
> >> a laser printer I think the choice would be easy.
> >>
> >> On 8/1/07, M K Ramadoss <mkr777 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In a recent study, it was found that some of the laser printers are
> >>> polluting worse than tobacco smoke. Here are the results: For the full
> >>> article, just Google.
> >>> ==================================
> >>>
> >>> Printer tests showed levels of ultra-fine particle pollution:
> >>>
> >>> High-level emitters
> >>>
> >>> HP Color LaserJet 4650dn
> >>>
> >>> HP Color LaserJet 5550dtn
> >>>
> >>> HP Color LaserJet 8550N
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 1320N
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 1320n
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 2420dn
> >>>
> >>> *HP LaserJet 4200dtn
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4250n (old cartridge)
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4250n (new cartridge)
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5(a) (further study needed)
> >>>
> >>> *HP LaserJet 8000DN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 8150N
> >>>
> >>> Toshiba Studio 450
> >>>
> >>> Mid-level emitters
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 1020
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4200dtn
> >>>
> >>> Low-level emitters
> >>>
> >>> Canon IRC6800
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5M
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 9000dn
> >>>
> >>> Ricoh CL3000DN
> >>>
> >>> Non-emitters
> >>>
> >>> HP Color LaserJet 4550DN
> >>>
> >>> HP Color LaserJet 8500DN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 2200DN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 2300dtn
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4 plus
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4000N
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4000TN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4050N
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4050TN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 4si
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5(b) (further study needed)
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5000n
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5100tn
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5N
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5si
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 5si/NX
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 8000DN
> >>>
> >>> HP LaserJet 8150DN
> >>>
> >>> Ricoh Aficio 2022
> >>>
> >>> Ricoh Aficio 3045
> >>>
> >>> Ricoh Aficio 3245C
> >>>
> >>> Ricoh Aficio CC3000DN
> >>>
> >>> Toshiba Studio 350
> >>>
> >>> *possible high emitter
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>>
> >>> mkr
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> I know I should just keep quiet but since this thread has continued and
> since I am the village contrary and curmudgeon ... I read the article
> and it came from an "accidental discovery" in Australia and of dozens of
> polluting sources could have been chosen, only tobacco smoke was chosen
> to compare. It also pops up at the very time when the Tobacco industry
> is spending billions trying to convince the entire world that 'smoking
> has benefit and is not so bad' here is a good example:
> http://journeytoforever.org/fyi_previous3.html#240801
>
> I should also shut up with that but.... just look up and observe that
> when was the last time you saw those wonderful days when the sky was so
> deep azure blue near aquamarine, I can tell you it was pre 1996 when
> strange jet-trails suddenly appeared that were called longer-lasting
> con-trails. Look up the definition and cause of contrails and you find
> that they can only exist for a few seconds and these trails last all day
> spreading out and have accumulated to the point that we no longer have a
> deep blue sky just the pale silvery tones, I have painted thousands of
> sunsets and those marvelous colors and contours are also gone.
>
> Should you not be concerned about the white powder that over 400
> military tanker jets are spraying 24/7 into the air at less than 5miles
> up. Why will no one talk about it or answer any questions about this?
> The effect in the sky is very visible, do you not think that if this was
> good for you and I and your children the Pols would certainly be telling
> you how wonderful it is? Why are over 500 tanker jets in operation there
> is no air war anywhere. Guess I will stop here although there are many
> more Why's.
>
> Sorry to soap box here but I just could not resist I think we are
> undergoing intentional pollution on a grand scale. If you trouble
> yourself to investigate this you will find it matches a plan proposed to
> combat global warming from the sun by Edward Teller (known as 'Father of
> the Hydrogen bomb, died few years back) you can start here.
> http://www.weatherwars.info/chemtrails.htm
> herb
>
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