Fw: [SATLUG] need help...everything is popping up Linux!

[Shawn Bender]

Hmm seems The message is bouncing?

Thank you for your time,

Shawn Bender
Humana DSI
8119 Datapoint Dr
San Antonio, TX. 78229
(210)615-3103
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Shawn Bender/San Antonio/Humana
08/29/2007 01:27 PM

To
Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
cc
Vanessa Burnette <burnette_v at hotmail.com>, "The San Antonio Linux User's 
Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org>, satlug-bounces at satlug.org, Shawn 
Bender <sbender at humana.com>
Subject
Re: [SATLUG] need help...everything is popping up Linux!





There is a difference between a spammer and a recruiter. If she is posting 
on the lugs in order to hire one of us , that is not spam.
Not all of us here are member of all the lug lists. If you don't like it 
just delete it.
I am NOT saying we should allow spammers on the list.

But that doesn't mean we need to be rude to someone trying to hire a 
fellow lug'er. Again not all of us are on as many lists and might want to 
see her posting.
I get tired of hitting the delete button too.. but what may be spam to 
you, may just in fact be a job for one of us here. You need to think about 
more than just yourself in this.
Sorry if spam upsets you.. but that's what a delete key is for. 

Thank you for your time,

Shawn Bender




Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> 
08/29/2007 01:01 PM

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"The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org>
cc
"The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org>, 
Vanessa Burnette <burnette_v at hotmail.com>, satlug-bounces at satlug.org, 
Shawn Bender <sbender at humana.com>
Subject
Re: [SATLUG] need help...everything is popping up Linux!






On 8/29/07, Shawn Bender wrote:

>  There is no reason to be rude to someone.
>  If you don't like what she has done take if off list and reply to her
>  email directly.

If it was just a one-time thing on a single list, I would have done 
that.  On that basis, I did ignore her postings to the Austin LUG and 
CTLUG lists, at least so far.

But repeating the same kind of activity for all known local groups in 
a hundred-mile radius, that's a bit excessive.

>  If you want to alienate a recruiter do it on your own email.. some may 
be
>  interested in what she has to say/offer.

If you want to deal with a known spammer, please feel free to do so.


However, I think we should strongly discourage people from casually 
and wantonly spamming all the various different LUG lists in a 
hundred mile radius, regardless of subject.

At the very least, if recruiters are going to post their jobs to 
these lists (where the respective groups don't have separate -jobs 
sublists), they should introduce themselves first and keep the 
postings (and their .sigs) to a reasonable length.  More lengthy 
posts would only be appropriate if they were providing details of 
specific jobs, and that should only be done once they've asked if 
people are interested and/or have permission from the people who run 
the list.


Spamming a rah-rah advertisement for your oh-so-wonderful bodyshop 
firm to all known LUGs in a hundred mile radius of where you actually 
work, is not a particularly welcome thing.

-- 
Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>



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