From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Sat Dec 1 00:17:30 2007 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Sat Dec 1 00:17:32 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? In-Reply-To: <144005.91680.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <144005.91680.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200712010017.30618.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Friday 30 November 2007 19:23:07 CHERYL HOLMES wrote: > Hi. > I am a total newbie to Linux, running Ubuntu 7.1 (Gutsey Gibbons) on my PC > and on my Mom's. I have DSL so I have had no issues at all so for > connecting to the net. Mom, on the other hand has...because DSL isn't > available where she lives and only dial up service is. > > I know I need a serial, NON WINMODEM but I can't find any. > Do any of you > have any suggestions/recommendations for this type of modem, where I can > buy one and about how much they cost please? External serial modems are the way to go (never use an internal) but they start at like $80-100 and up now (supply and demand..). The best place to find one for under $20 ($10 probably) is Goodwill Computers on I410 e.bound service road next to the AT&T store around the Calahagn intersection. > Is there a serial linux dial up modem that will > work right out of the box? The US Robotics, Motrola, and Zoom serial modems are okay. Tweeks From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 01:26:22 2007 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Sat Dec 1 01:26:24 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] serial modem, Ernest In-Reply-To: <554040.99625.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20071201013341.F2ED943E7A3@satlug.org> <554040.99625.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0711302326uab18636l7bea6047a9fd940@mail.gmail.com> Even some of the "winmodems" have Linux support so it's worth checking the chipset to see if it is supported. I've had good luck with some of the Zoom PCI modems too .. they make quite a few hardware modems, but some of them are softmodems so you need to check the chipset. Might have on sitting around here somewhere .. -Henry On Nov 30, 2007 7:42 PM, CHERYL HOLMES wrote: > Hi Ernest..thanks for your help but I know after trying 4 PCI modems and doing a lot of research, they will not work. Even the ones that say Linux won't. I was told to get a serial modem. I see that PCI modems and dial up modems in general are causing people trying to use Ubuntu a lot of grief. Most articles I've read say dial up is not really supported technically, although experts may be able to get it to work. I have tried many chipsets w/o success..so now I am looking foir a serial modem. > > Mom's PC is a tower like mine, both of us running AMD Thunderbird processors. Ubuntu works beautifully and effortlessly on dsl with our MB's. Thank you for your help Ernest! I just wish she had another option to connect besides dial up. Sincerely, Cheryl : > > > Bumper sticker, "Sure you can trust the government ? just ask an Indian!" > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" - Alan Kay From hector.bojorquez at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 08:01:59 2007 From: hector.bojorquez at gmail.com (Hector Bojorquez) Date: Sat Dec 1 08:02:04 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 Message-ID: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> Just a question... Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer on the Internet? I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen the path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it enough any thoughts? From etillman93 at peoplepc.com Sat Dec 1 08:04:11 2007 From: etillman93 at peoplepc.com (Ed) Date: Sat Dec 1 08:04:17 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: [XCSSA] Open Source Fest 2008 In-Reply-To: <200711252308.37377.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <47486A52.1020205@cis.sac.accd.edu> <200711252257.11341.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <474A5277.1020002@shlrm.org> <200711252308.37377.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <475169DB.9060002@peoplepc.com> Tom Weeks wrote: > On Sunday 25 November 2007 22:58:31 David Kowis wrote: > >> Tom Weeks wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:15:46 xcssa-admin@xcssa.org wrote: >>> >>>> At http://cis.sac.accd.edu/~skolars/satlug/2008.html >>>> you will find the >>>> beginnings of the 2008 Open Source Fest. The sessions are from the last >>>> OSF. I need to change the sessions. A couple of people e-mailed me >>>> earlier about sessions they would like to do--please e-mail me again so >>>> I do not miss you. If anyone else would like to present, please let me >>>> know as soon as possible. >>>> >>>> Tweeks: should I take the Rackspace stuff off? Or, do you think they >>>> would like to come this year? >>>> >>> Eh.. I'll talk to them.. After last year's OSF at Kelly.. I might have to >>> do some convising.. ;) But we'll probably get someone... >>> >> What went wrong with last years OSF? I don't remember hearing about it >> >> :/ And i'm curious. >> > e > Ask others what they thought.. but Saturday is usually "the big day" of past > OSF weeks, often with like 200 or so showing up. Last year's OSF held at > Kelly USA, we only had a couple handfulls of folks show up on Saturday. > Talking with Steve and others.. we all thought that it was because of the > location. Many reported that they didn't know about the Kelly location and > some even inadvertently showed up at SAC instead.. I think that's what Steve > and the others changed it back to SAC. > > (comments from others very welcome) > > Tweeks > Where on Kelly did you host it. I teach at the ACCD Advanced Technology Center, and they have somewhat of a rep in the district. Y'might be able to negotiate with them for space, and the District for pointed advertising... Cheers; Ed From wmail at wricomp.com Sat Dec 1 10:54:20 2007 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Sat Dec 1 10:54:23 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: [XCSSA] Open Source Fest 2008 In-Reply-To: <475169DB.9060002@peoplepc.com> References: <47486A52.1020205@cis.sac.accd.edu> <200711252257.11341.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <474A5277.1020002@shlrm.org> <200711252308.37377.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <475169DB.9060002@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:04:11 -0600, Ed wrote: >Where on Kelly did you host it. I teach at the ACCD Advanced Technology >Center, and they have somewhat of a rep in the district. Y'might be >able to negotiate with them for space, and the District for pointed >advertising... That's where it was. The ATC team handled the advertising, emails were sent on internal and external ACCD lists, plus the regular XCSSA and SATLUG lists, and even you didn't know about it. Kinda says it all. --Don -- Be well - or at least have interesting symptoms! From dpower at hal-pc.org Sat Dec 1 11:32:01 2007 From: dpower at hal-pc.org (David Power) Date: Sat Dec 1 11:32:06 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? In-Reply-To: <200712010017.30618.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <144005.91680.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200712010017.30618.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <005201c83440$15a18f80$0201a8c0@chubby> I would highly recommend the usr courier modem. This was the pinnacle of modem technology back when we all had to use dialup. I had several hundred of these and they gave outstanding performance. You can find them used on eBay for 10-30 dollars, new they are still around $150 and I think they are worth every penny, if you have to use dialup. The 33.6 that were flashed to 56k are all right, Id avoid the older one's that had to have hardware upgrade to 56k, they don?t have as much memory or as fast a cpu. David > -----Original Message----- > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > Behalf Of Tom Weeks > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:18 AM > To: satlug@satlug.org > Cc: CHERYL HOLMES > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? > > On Friday 30 November 2007 19:23:07 CHERYL HOLMES wrote: > > Hi. > > I am a total newbie to Linux, running Ubuntu 7.1 (Gutsey Gibbons) on my > PC > > and on my Mom's. I have DSL so I have had no issues at all so for > > connecting to the net. Mom, on the other hand has...because DSL isn't > > available where she lives and only dial up service is. > > > > I know I need a serial, NON WINMODEM but I can't find any. > > > > Do any of you > > have any suggestions/recommendations for this type of modem, where I can > > buy one and about how much they cost please? > > > External serial modems are the way to go (never use an internal) but they > start at like $80-100 and up now (supply and demand..). > > The best place to find one for under $20 ($10 probably) is Goodwill > Computers > on I410 e.bound service road next to the AT&T store around the Calahagn > intersection. > > > Is there a serial linux dial up modem that will > > work right out of the box? > > The US Robotics, Motrola, and Zoom serial modems are okay. > > > Tweeks > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: > 11/29/2007 8:32 PM > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM From hharadon at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 13:39:33 2007 From: hharadon at gmail.com (Howard Haradon) Date: Sat Dec 1 13:39:38 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? Message-ID: > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:32:01 -0600 > From: "David Power" > Subject: RE: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? > To: "'The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List'" > > Message-ID: <005201c83440$15a18f80$0201a8c0@chubby> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > I would highly recommend the usr courier modem. > This was the pinnacle of modem technology back when we all had to use > dialup. I had several hundred of these and they gave outstanding > performance. You can find them used on eBay for 10-30 dollars, new they are > still around $150 and I think they are worth every penny, if you have to use > dialup. The 33.6 that were flashed to 56k are all right, Id avoid the older > one's that had to have hardware upgrade to 56k, they don't have as much > memory or as fast a cpu. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On > > Behalf Of Tom Weeks > > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:18 AM > > To: satlug@satlug.org > > Cc: CHERYL HOLMES > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? > > > > On Friday 30 November 2007 19:23:07 CHERYL HOLMES wrote: > > > Hi. > > > I am a total newbie to Linux, running Ubuntu 7.1 (Gutsey Gibbons) on my > > PC > > > and on my Mom's. I have DSL so I have had no issues at all so for > > > connecting to the net. Mom, on the other hand has...because DSL isn't > > > available where she lives and only dial up service is. > > > > > > I know I need a serial, NON WINMODEM but I can't find any. > > > > > > > Do any of you > > > have any suggestions/recommendations for this type of modem, where I can > > > buy one and about how much they cost please? > > > > > > External serial modems are the way to go (never use an internal) but they > > start at like $80-100 and up now (supply and demand..). > > > > The best place to find one for under $20 ($10 probably) is Goodwill > > Computers > > on I410 e.bound service road next to the AT&T store around the Calahagn > > intersection. > > > > > Is there a serial linux dial up modem that will > > > work right out of the box? > > > > The US Robotics, Motrola, and Zoom serial modems are okay. > > > > > > Tweeks I would recommend a different solution. With cost of DSL at $20 per month and the cost of dial-up at $10 per month, the hassle and dissatisfaction of the dial-up experience are clearly not warranted. If your mother has a land-line phone, adding DSL to the line would be the best solution. If this is not possible, I have an old serial Motorola 56kb modem (Voicesurfr) with a digital signal processor in it, but this kind of connection is limited to just about email only. If this is your only resort, contact me off-list about this. Good luck, Howard -- Howard Haradon San Antonio, TX USA From scarolan at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 14:21:29 2007 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Sat Dec 1 14:21:30 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? In-Reply-To: <005201c83440$15a18f80$0201a8c0@chubby> References: <144005.91680.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200712010017.30618.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <005201c83440$15a18f80$0201a8c0@chubby> Message-ID: <277020fc0712011221p47795a6esfccf2073f8655ca9@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 11:32 AM, David Power wrote: > I would highly recommend the usr courier modem. > This was the pinnacle of modem technology back when we all had to use > dialup. I had several hundred of these and they gave outstanding > performance. You can find them used on eBay for 10-30 dollars, new they are > still around $150 and I think they are worth every penny, if you have to use > dialup. The 33.6 that were flashed to 56k are all right, Id avoid the older > one's that had to have hardware upgrade to 56k, they don't have as much > memory or as fast a cpu. I'm also partial to the USR modems. They generally offer rock-solid performance and are easy to set up. I would pick a used US Robotics modem over a new off-brand modem. From gtmo321 at earthlink.net Sat Dec 1 14:57:12 2007 From: gtmo321 at earthlink.net (MK Davis) Date: Sat Dec 1 14:57:17 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] serial modem, Ernest In-Reply-To: <554040.99625.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <554040.99625.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4751CAA8.7050501@earthlink.net> I have a USR model no. 5605 - 56k# Voice Faxmodem Pro that you can have for a bottle of Dos XXX amber. Mike W6GAR CHERYL HOLMES wrote: > Hi Ernest..thanks for your help but I know after trying 4 PCI modems and doing a lot of research, they will not work. Even the ones that say Linux won't. I was told to get a serial modem. I see that PCI modems and dial up modems in general are causing people trying to use Ubuntu a lot of grief. Most articles I've read say dial up is not really supported technically, although experts may be able to get it to work. I have tried many chipsets w/o success..so now I am looking foir a serial modem. > > Mom's PC is a tower like mine, both of us running AMD Thunderbird processors. Ubuntu works beautifully and effortlessly on dsl with our MB's. Thank you for your help Ernest! I just wish she had another option to connect besides dial up. Sincerely, Cheryl : > > > Bumper sticker, ?Sure you can trust the government ? just ask an Indian!? > > > > From gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu Sat Dec 1 15:17:33 2007 From: gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu (gboswell) Date: Sat Dec 1 15:17:45 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS Message-ID: <4751CF6D.2060106@cis.sac.accd.edu> I may be having mostly timers but I can't remember any partition tool that will resize ext3, vfat32 and NTFS in the same product. I've used partition Magic 8.0, Butt Saver tools and none really do them all, in fact I can't get one to resize an ext3 partition in the middle of partition set with NTFS and vfat32 at both ends. I'm trying to ghost (term not product) a 120GB sata to a 250GB sata. EZ drive allows the ghost and proportionally sizes up the XP and fat32 but will not change the ext3 partitions. I can resize NTFS and vfat with PM8.2 and move the unallocated access around but nothing will resize the ext3 partitions without corrupting them and one that did resize (and corrupt ) ,also killed the NTFS partition which was not changed. I need to add since this is a notebook I'm using the usb port to do the original proportional creation, then place in notebook for partition resizing to avoid conflicts. If this has been covered else where just say where. Thanks for the feedback/laughter, but be careful Santa is watching........ Boz -- Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@cis.sac.accd.edu Note the address above as gboswell@accd.edu dies 12/1/07 Personal email should be directed to gboswellsac@yahoo.com San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 "Freedom is not FREE", let us never forget. "We make a living by what we Get. We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous From scs at worldlinkisp.com Sat Dec 1 15:23:22 2007 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Sat Dec 1 15:23:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Qualified Portable DVD Repair Shop Message-ID: Am looking for a qualified DVD repair shop, not just someone that happens to work on them. Received a Mustek MP100 portable DVD player, that has no OSD video (not even menu or setup display). The LCD is illuminated but not receiving video. Checked it with both AC adapter and Car DC adapter, and verified they supplied 12VDC. Don't want to open it myself and void any possible warranty, however, would like to get an idea of repair cost should negotiations with the Ebay seller be productive. Yes, although I was assured all functions worked, got bit, and it didn't go bad in transit. Lou From president at satlug.org Sat Dec 1 15:38:29 2007 From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President) Date: Sat Dec 1 15:38:32 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Serial dial up modem recommendations? PLEASE??? In-Reply-To: References: <144005.91680.qm@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200712010133.lB11XlUm024749@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0712011338j488afe5fw2ccb5441a25c7f78@mail.gmail.com> Cheryl, I have a US Robotics External SERIAL modem with the power cord. If you can make it to the meeting on December 12, you can have it as I am not using it. It belonged to a friend who has since moved out of state & he told me to dispose of it as I see fit. Jim Wells, President San Antonio Linux Users Group From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 18:47:09 2007 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Sat Dec 1 18:47:11 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS In-Reply-To: <4751CF6D.2060106@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <4751CF6D.2060106@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0712011647i23a58c45ifb2246f7835ddc7f@mail.gmail.com> Try using a GParted LiveCD. It can handle NTFS5 and even works on server versions of Windows (PM does not). I've never tried it with that partition arrangement, but it is worth a shot. -Henry On Dec 1, 2007 3:17 PM, gboswell wrote: > I may be having mostly timers but I can't remember any partition tool > that will resize ext3, vfat32 and NTFS in the same product. I've used > partition Magic 8.0, Butt Saver tools and none really do them all, in > fact I can't get one to resize an ext3 partition in the middle of > partition set with NTFS and vfat32 at both ends. From mkinsel at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:52:22 2007 From: mkinsel at gmail.com (Matt Kinsel) Date: Sat Dec 1 21:52:25 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Getting an already-registered domain name In-Reply-To: <474DF614.4040603@shlrm.org> References: <403abb680711280858j7f2f9638ta42f546ec94d682@mail.gmail.com> <403abb680711280916s558dede4rbd458f5b595f5f50@mail.gmail.com> <474DA53F.8050301@lookcee.com> <200711280557.04085.eldergeek@don-guitar.com> <474DF614.4040603@shlrm.org> Message-ID: <403abb680712011952q4810fc31qcc22031c235c72c8@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for all the feedback, y'all. I registered kinsel-kreations.com, and at some point down the road I'll secure kinselkreations.com, too. I've learned my lesson, and I won't make the same mistake twice (hopefully). :) On Nov 28, 2007 5:13 PM, David Kowis wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Don wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 11:28, herb cee wrote: > >> Matt Kinsel wrote: > >>> I was using Register.com in my search. And my searches couldn't have > been > >>> long before August, so the evidence does seem to point towards some > kind > >>> of scam.... > >> Matt, how important is the ending 's'? This one is > available...(Firefox > >> can't find the server at www.kinselkreation.com). ..... then you also > >> have the satisfaction of knowing they have wasted the gamble of getting > >> $150 from you. I just used the browser not the search site, so they not > >> tipped off. > >> > >> Or you could add an 's'. Firefox can't find the server at > >> www.kinselskreations.com. > >> > >> Anyway I be damned if I would pay a dime to them, make sure they eat > it. > >> herb > > > > This is the way to go. Register kinselkreation.com and, if it's a big > deal, > > go back in a year and register it with the "s" because once you've moved > on > > they'll let it lapse. > > > > I'm a paranoid; I'll type a potential domain into my browser to see if > it > > exists but the only time I'll search it is when I'm in the process of > > registering it. I've half suspected something like this could happen if > I > > didn't. > > I use www.enom.com or www.sitelutions.net for my domainname stuffs. enom > is a top level provider, but they're expensive. sitelutions is cheaper > and has done a great job. > > > - -- > David Kowis > ================================================================== > | www.ronpaul2008.com | www.sourcemage.org | > | Ron Paul for President! | SourceMage GNU/Linux | > ================================================================== > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQGVAwUBR032FMnf+vRw63ObAQrHVwv+MjdCVIiOjGh+pOlYMQXSIOxvJBrC+6AD > WXrPseAjr/pK7OidD3X6fviMdEOFGyb2bjEXg0Nx0t/2yV7WNkW79xFNrdnle6TG > 916jBN3IZ9mSHKbYe4lsw42tDiz6lGBXGUXsCq08ddCnZmOaU+ot5tdF6PIbY6HJ > TIom4PXKCc+WT4hcXMrDfZmiAMPSUaX+kK02euBlqFnf8idknKUinyERM/h4Fki+ > wRs3dld/FIHGHa6ASfBfLHMlTbXv2qw0NIddRn6HMpsCXK7QFhyQf6T4MmTG8KiK > dtfBWJgjLMbvwGC2hKRUmwlFLmIg4dWUk0saWa3x2lfJ3HNsAc6po4JiU4xIYdgk > ca4hztWUvzNV44y+NHjyHzfkNxOnqCAkOgiaoK1HZuP56SQwrSbrrolVPvzw6Qbt > P08Vv9/I6RMdlZe/HEavX7dTInaiVprb49Ch0lx9SuIxd5MB99H3Q9IZwgXPDvah > 1qOy9J1WS74YP+7GXSe1PFz98SWVdC6t > =8+HM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From masterr at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 22:04:00 2007 From: masterr at gmail.com (Jonathan Hull) Date: Sat Dec 1 22:04:04 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Getting an already-registered domain name In-Reply-To: <403abb680712011952q4810fc31qcc22031c235c72c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <403abb680711280858j7f2f9638ta42f546ec94d682@mail.gmail.com> <403abb680711280916s558dede4rbd458f5b595f5f50@mail.gmail.com> <474DA53F.8050301@lookcee.com> <200711280557.04085.eldergeek@don-guitar.com> <474DF614.4040603@shlrm.org> <403abb680712011952q4810fc31qcc22031c235c72c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14842c410712012004i7ffcf05fq54cb2f648980ebea@mail.gmail.com> I've searched for available domains names through godaddy without a problem before. Plus the are pretty cheap to register with as well. On 12/1/07, Matt Kinsel wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback, y'all. I registered kinsel-kreations.com, and > at some point down the road I'll secure kinselkreations.com, too. > > I've learned my lesson, and I won't make the same mistake twice (hopefully). > :) > > On Nov 28, 2007 5:13 PM, David Kowis wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > Don wrote: > > > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 11:28, herb cee wrote: > > >> Matt Kinsel wrote: > > >>> I was using Register.com in my search. And my searches couldn't have > > been > > >>> long before August, so the evidence does seem to point towards some > > kind > > >>> of scam.... > > >> Matt, how important is the ending 's'? This one is > > available...(Firefox > > >> can't find the server at www.kinselkreation.com). ..... then you also > > >> have the satisfaction of knowing they have wasted the gamble of getting > > >> $150 from you. I just used the browser not the search site, so they not > > >> tipped off. > > >> > > >> Or you could add an 's'. Firefox can't find the server at > > >> www.kinselskreations.com. > > >> > > >> Anyway I be damned if I would pay a dime to them, make sure they eat > > it. > > >> herb > > > > > > This is the way to go. Register kinselkreation.com and, if it's a big > > deal, > > > go back in a year and register it with the "s" because once you've moved > > on > > > they'll let it lapse. > > > > > > I'm a paranoid; I'll type a potential domain into my browser to see if > > it > > > exists but the only time I'll search it is when I'm in the process of > > > registering it. I've half suspected something like this could happen if > > I > > > didn't. > > > > I use www.enom.com or www.sitelutions.net for my domainname stuffs. enom > > is a top level provider, but they're expensive. sitelutions is cheaper > > and has done a great job. > > > > > > - -- > > David Kowis > > ================================================================== > > | www.ronpaul2008.com | www.sourcemage.org | > > | Ron Paul for President! | SourceMage GNU/Linux | > > ================================================================== > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iQGVAwUBR032FMnf+vRw63ObAQrHVwv+MjdCVIiOjGh+pOlYMQXSIOxvJBrC+6AD > > WXrPseAjr/pK7OidD3X6fviMdEOFGyb2bjEXg0Nx0t/2yV7WNkW79xFNrdnle6TG > > 916jBN3IZ9mSHKbYe4lsw42tDiz6lGBXGUXsCq08ddCnZmOaU+ot5tdF6PIbY6HJ > > TIom4PXKCc+WT4hcXMrDfZmiAMPSUaX+kK02euBlqFnf8idknKUinyERM/h4Fki+ > > wRs3dld/FIHGHa6ASfBfLHMlTbXv2qw0NIddRn6HMpsCXK7QFhyQf6T4MmTG8KiK > > dtfBWJgjLMbvwGC2hKRUmwlFLmIg4dWUk0saWa3x2lfJ3HNsAc6po4JiU4xIYdgk > > ca4hztWUvzNV44y+NHjyHzfkNxOnqCAkOgiaoK1HZuP56SQwrSbrrolVPvzw6Qbt > > P08Vv9/I6RMdlZe/HEavX7dTInaiVprb49Ch0lx9SuIxd5MB99H3Q9IZwgXPDvah > > 1qOy9J1WS74YP+7GXSe1PFz98SWVdC6t > > =8+HM > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From argiod at bresnan.net Sun Dec 2 00:37:55 2007 From: argiod at bresnan.net (John Chalinder) Date: Sun Dec 2 00:37:57 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Qualified Portable DVD Repair Shop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is the Mustek web page for the MP100 with technical data: http://www.mustek.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=17&category_id=&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=%3Cbr%3E The original unit cost from $213.84 to $269.99. If your eBay price, plus repair costs exceeds this, you'd do better to purchase a new unit with the factory three month limited warranty and get an extended service contract. This machine is still widely available on the internet at this price. The best price I've seen is from Amazon.com, at $213.84; and they have an excellent return/refund policy if you aren't satisfied for any reason. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E849TQ?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=cnet-ce-20&linkCode=asn You should ask at Mustek Customer Service about your repair options and costs: Contact Support Tech Support/Customer Service Number: 1-408-387-6571 Tech Support/Customer Service Fax: 1-949-788-3670 Hours of Operation: Monday through Friday 8:00 AM to 4:45 PM Pacific Time Replacement Parts & Accessories - If you are looking for parts, CDs, manuals, cables, or power adapters, check first on www.mustekdirect.com I hope this helps. Merry Christmas John Chalinder On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:23:22 -0500 "scs@worldlinkisp.com" wrote: > Am looking for a qualified DVD repair shop, not just > someone that happens to work on them. > > Received a Mustek MP100 portable DVD player, that has > no OSD video (not even menu or setup display). > > The LCD is illuminated but not receiving video. > Checked it with both AC adapter and Car DC adapter, > and verified they supplied 12VDC. > > Don't want to open it myself and void any possible > warranty, however, would like to get an idea of > repair cost should negotiations with the Ebay seller > be productive. > > Yes, although I was assured all functions worked, got > bit, and it didn't go bad in transit. > > Lou > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From argiod at bresnan.net Sun Dec 2 01:05:46 2007 From: argiod at bresnan.net (John Chalinder) Date: Sun Dec 2 01:05:48 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS In-Reply-To: <4751CF6D.2060106@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <4751CF6D.2060106@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu, so forgive me if this isn't 'on target' for your needs. Though it's not a partitioner, per se, I have found that Win4Lin handles both the ext3 and NTFS partitions well for its purposes. One could conceivably run it long enough to adjust partitions, then exit. If you're keeping NTFS partition to run Windows apps, then you could continue and do a full install of Windows in the created/adjusted NTFS partition. It's a proprietary package, so costs around $50 US. But I find it to be superior to any other Windows 'emulator' for Linux. I'll be installing it on my system as soon as my new copy of Windows XP MCE arrives this coming week. I'll post a personal review as soon as it's up and running. Meanwhile, here's the history of Win4Lin, excerpted from Wikipedia: ------------------------------------------------------- Win4Lin is a proprietary software application for Linux which allows a user to run a copy of Microsoft Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000 or XP applications on their desktop. The system works by acting in a similar way to a virtual machine, in that it provides an environment for the Windows operating system to run, and as such one must still have a copy of Windows to use with it. The Win4Lin application in essence displays a window on a Linux desktop which contains the Windows desktop environment. As an alternative, the Windows environment can be run full screen, outside of the desktop environment to save on desktop real estate. Win4Lin is designed with business users in mind, and as such, does not support features such as MIDI, in favor of support for Microsoft Office-style application compatibility. Win4Lin was based on Merge which was originally developed to run DOS/Windows 3.1 under UNIX System V Release 2 on an AT&T 6300+ personal computer. That machine contained an Intel 80286 processor, and AT&T announced availability on October 9, 1985, referring to the bundled Merge software as SimulTask. Later Merge was enhanced to make use of the VM86 mode provided by the Intel 80386 processor; that version was offered with Microport SVR3 starting in 1987, and subsequently with SCO Unix. Merge was developed by engineers at Locus Computing Corporation, founded by Gerald J. Popek and others in 1982, which was later taken over by a company called Platinum Technology. The Merge technology was then bought by a company called DASCOM which was in turn bought by IBM. A company called TreLOS was then spun off that continued the development of the virtual machine software and created Win4Lin. TreLOS and LastFoot.com merged in 2000 to form NeTraverse, Inc. In early 2005 the assets of NeTraverse were purchased to form Win4Lin Inc. which introduced Win4Lin Pro Desktop - this is based on a 'tuned' version of QEMU, and KQEMU and it hosts NT-versions of Windows. In June 2006, Win4Lin released Win4Lin Virtual Desktop Server based on the same code base. Win4Lin Virtual Desktop Server serves Microsoft Windows sessions to thin clients from a Linux server. In September 2006, Win4Lin announced a change of the company name to Virtual Bridges with the release of Win4BSD Pro Desktop, a port of the product to FreeBSD and PC-BSD. Solaris x86 support followed in May 2007 with the release of Win4Solaris Pro Desktop and Win4Solaris Virtual Desktop Server. Win4Lin Pro and Virtual Desktop Server use "full" virtualization, whereas Win4Lin 9x was an example of paravirtualization. Win4Lin 9x appears to be have been completely abandoned. It is no longer sold or supported. ------------------------------------------------------- Win4Lin supports more Windows applications than Wine or CrossOver Office, and has better performance than VMware. It may be a good choice when needed Windows applications have no acceptable native Linux equivalents and are not supported by Wine. Win4Lin Pro products fully support Ubuntu 7.10, according to their web site. ------------------------------------------------------- And, here's the US Win4Lin link: http://www.win4lin.biz/servlet/Detail?no=8 I hope this helps. Merry Christmas John Chalinder On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:17:33 -0600 gboswell wrote: > I may be having mostly timers but I can't remember any partition tool > that will resize ext3, vfat32 and NTFS in the same product. I've used > partition Magic 8.0, Butt Saver tools and none really do them all, in > fact I can't get one to resize an ext3 partition in the middle of > partition set with NTFS and vfat32 at both ends. > > I'm trying to ghost (term not product) a 120GB sata to a 250GB sata. EZ > drive allows the ghost and proportionally sizes up the XP and fat32 but > will not change the ext3 partitions. I can resize NTFS and vfat with > PM8.2 and move the unallocated access around but nothing will resize the > ext3 partitions without corrupting them and one that did resize (and > corrupt ) ,also killed the NTFS partition which was not changed. > > I need to add since this is a notebook I'm using the usb port to do the > original proportional creation, then place in notebook for partition > resizing to avoid conflicts. If this has been covered else where just > say where. > > Thanks for the feedback/laughter, but be careful Santa is watching........ > > Boz > > -- > Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@cis.sac.accd.edu > Note the address above as gboswell@accd.edu dies 12/1/07 > Personal email should be directed to gboswellsac@yahoo.com > San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 > > "Freedom is not FREE", let us never forget. > > "We make a living by what we Get. > We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Sun Dec 2 08:20:43 2007 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Sun Dec 2 08:20:46 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] myp2p.eu for linux equivalent Message-ID: <978950.3383.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Is there a equivalent site that I can use w/linux software to watch TV on my linux box? ppmate for linux etc? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From scs at worldlinkisp.com Sun Dec 2 10:06:18 2007 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Sun Dec 2 10:06:23 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Qualified Portable DVD Repair Shop (Resolved) Message-ID: <3d905f5af5ba468f9c1a5dc9fb7aa959.scs@worldlinkisp.com> >------- Original Message ------- >From : John Chalinder >Here is the Mustek web page for the MP100 with technical data: http://www.mustek.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=17&category_id=&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=%3Cbr%3E ----------------------------- Thanks John, Googled from the onset, checked Mustek, and blogs too, nada...My original intent was to get a full refund substantiated with valid cost figures.. Like a dog with a bone kept after it, and discovered the A/V input switch was not making contact in the Output position...Further discovered that video and OSD is disabled in the Input position....Nowhere in the instructions/FAQ/troubleshooting is this mentioned, instead they only mention that A/V needs to be set to Output for use with auxiliary A/V equipment (LMAO). IMHO Asian tech data in general is very deficient, and in some cases useless. Lou From gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu Sun Dec 2 07:35:29 2007 From: gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu (gboswell) Date: Sun Dec 2 13:35:39 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS Message-ID: <4752B4A1.4030608@cis.sac.accd.edu> > > Try using a GParted LiveCD. It can handle NTFS5 and even works on > server versions of Windows (PM does not). I've never tried it with > that partition arrangement, but it is worth a shot. > > -Henry Henry thank you thank you. I should have remembered qparted live. It took from 3am till 11am this morning to finish but it did it perfectly on the USB sata drive. I just put it into my notebook to test and "everything" is perfect. I even did chkdsk on vfat and NTFS and fsck on the ext3 and everything checked out flawless. Thanks for saving my mind from much frustration. I'm like a little kid with a new toy, the 250GB 2.5" sata drive. I plan to get another for my other sata notebook. Just need to make sure I have all night to let it run. Of course in the notebook, not on USB, it will probably run a lot faster. Thanks again -- Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@cis.sac.accd.edu Note the address above as gboswell@accd.edu dies 12/1/07 Personal email should be directed to gboswellsac@yahoo.com San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 "Freedom is not FREE", let us never forget. "We make a living by what we Get. We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous From dkowis at shlrm.org Sun Dec 2 13:41:41 2007 From: dkowis at shlrm.org (David Kowis) Date: Sun Dec 2 13:41:06 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Skype Alternatives for linux In-Reply-To: <20071201041546.GI1783@subspacefield.org> References: <3ae131d00711301118m1158dc61mb4badfb57b56eb76@mail.gmail.com> <20071201041546.GI1783@subspacefield.org> Message-ID: <47530A75.5020600@shlrm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 travis+ml-satlug@subspacefield.org wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 02:06:29PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: >> Get a real VoIP/SIP client, not a proprietary VOIP-like program. The >> Gizmo Project has a Linux client (see > > Yeah, I'd get a SIP client - there are many. You can also get a > Sipura ATA adapter that lets you use regular everyday "hard" phones. > I plugged my apartment wiring into one, so the whole apartment was one > extension. Then I had the Sipura register with Asterisk. Then > Asterisk could register with anything online; I liked FWD because they > spoke IAX which is easier to get through a firewall than SIP. I also > put a $7 IA-92 modem in the asterisk box so that I could use my POTS line. > > When people would call the regular POTS line, Asterisk could check > caller ID. If there wasn't any, it did the tele-zapper/zap-a-tel > trick. It then gave them a voice menu which told them whether I'd be > awake and around or not, and let them choose to ring me or leave voice > mail. I never got a single telemarketing call. > > Nowadays I wouldn't bother with a POTS telephone line. Use VoIP for > $5/mo and use cell if your WAN link is down. If you need more > reliability, get two broadband connections and do automatic failover. > > Fun stuff. Who do you use for your SIP minutes? I've wanted to dork around with asterisk and do that fun stuff, but I've not been able to find a decent SIP provider. I'd like to get 3 lines, give out only one of the numbers, use the other two lines to ring our cell phones and then use the voicemail detection stuff to figure out who answered, or if nobody did use asterisk's voicemail thing. it'd rule. Mostly I just want to play with it :) - -- David Kowis ================================================================== | www.ronpaul2008.com | www.sourcemage.org | | Ron Paul for President! | SourceMage GNU/Linux | ================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQGVAwUBR1MKdcnf+vRw63ObAQoZuAv/R0BGIBnHAwEydDS4xjXXVc8SRvjH35d4 J76GgiE4IW8rr65Q7mGCPJj7C4oCKzmnGbuk9VzzhWLWLVAL0oAZ6ycEhePLZ3nx ZueZD4aFUk0MW1lvZuatKxkJWTlE86aF1uqwtEBmmX5DWZK+95vADhGOJ417WuDD L0FGdJdhptwJUNKZksFMJsOaLoUQwVumVsyc5zSY1HNlphB/WhOnBWmnTOFivNpC JLecxNs8EeiAt8SgNmZfE4MAZwmmnbCxKpKkpoY8aYMfj9+nSgh630CzTeSwF5Iv Vzzvr8CzMrJgGgi9FbXyxO3yrxh410woEhLXZ72DFWuR3oix6eihLRy/7hptHrYx x/rxhWDSLYUcgVblXYr1C07tV299S027ozFvpNZ0FM2mjr6nmyQTskcIYPe1pt/V S3caaKTIdalHABXrx5UshVs7XngTA9sSE6G2D06KGTdrHac0pdCLn+eHlAYm+fcF qsiek4eZQJmZd95wcB+pJYh4tXNrH1ov =acQl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scarolan at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 14:19:12 2007 From: scarolan at gmail.com (Sean Carolan) Date: Sun Dec 2 14:19:14 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Skype Alternatives for linux In-Reply-To: <200711302355.06760.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <3ae131d00711301118m1158dc61mb4badfb57b56eb76@mail.gmail.com> <20071201041546.GI1783@subspacefield.org> <200711302355.06760.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <277020fc0712021219k6957b1c1p6d5797817b36072a@mail.gmail.com> > > days I wouldn't bother with a POTS telephone line. Use VoIP for > > $5/mo and use cell if your WAN link is down. > > > Who's your VOIP provider Travis? I'm also curious to know about $5/month VoIP service. I have a CISCO ATA186 adapter that I used to use with Vonage. After fighting with their customer service for about 4 hours, I managed to find a technician who could unlock it for me. So now it works with just about any SIP-capable server. I used to use it with Broadvoice for a while, but they were around $30 a month. From gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu Sun Dec 2 11:22:29 2007 From: gboswell at cis.sac.accd.edu (gboswell) Date: Sun Dec 2 17:22:40 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS Message-ID: <4752E9D5.2000902@cis.sac.accd.edu> > > I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu, so forgive me if this isn't 'on target' for your needs. Though it's not a partitioner, per se, I have found that Win4Lin handles both the ext3 and NTFS partitions well for its purposes. One could conceivably run it long enough to adjust partitions, then exit. If you're keeping NTFS partition to run Windows apps, then you could continue and do a full install of Windows in the created/adjusted NTFS partition. > > It's a proprietary package, so costs around $50 US. But I find it to be superior to any other Windows 'emulator' for Linux. I'll be installing it on my system as soon as my new copy of Windows XP MCE arrives this coming week. I'll post a personal review as soon as it's up and running. > John thanks for the response. I was a user of win4lin several years a ago but migrated to VMWare server which is free and much more robust. In fact I had Virtual PC in the NTFS partition and VMWare server in the ext2 partitions. I Use both in my work, mainly demonstration for my classes. I have never installed VMWare into ubuntu but several have so should be a snap for you. Go to www.vmware.com and select the Products and Server Virtualization Products and look at all the vmware apps available, and almost all are free. Thanks again for the help. -- Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@cis.sac.accd.edu Note the address above as gboswell@accd.edu dies 12/1/07 Personal email should be directed to gboswellsac@yahoo.com San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 "Freedom is not FREE", let us never forget. "We make a living by what we Get. We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous From mkr777 at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 20:30:41 2007 From: mkr777 at gmail.com (M K Ramadoss) Date: Sun Dec 2 20:30:42 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child Message-ID: Has anyone had on-hands use of the XO? Would it work by connecting to home Wifi and would it be a good Christmas present for a child in the US? It is available for purchase till end of month, in their buy one gift one program. mkr From mtodd4 at satx.rr.com Sun Dec 2 23:15:00 2007 From: mtodd4 at satx.rr.com (Mike Todd) Date: Sun Dec 2 23:15:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] myp2p.eu for linux equivalent In-Reply-To: <978950.3383.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <978950.3383.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <475390D4.1020702@satx.rr.com> Alex Bartonek wrote: > Is there a equivalent site that I can use w/linux > software to watch TV on my linux box? ppmate for > linux etc? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make Yahoo! your homepage. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > try mythdora. works pretty good. From luis at luisgarza.com Sun Dec 2 23:39:54 2007 From: luis at luisgarza.com (luis Garza) Date: Sun Dec 2 23:40:07 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time Message-ID: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. What services use the following ports: Port Service =========================== 21 22 25 43 53 69 80 88 110 111 119 135 137 161 194 389 445 995 1433 1434 1801 1812 2107 3268 3269 3389 Have fun!!! Luis Garza From firestorm.v1 at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 23:51:33 2007 From: firestorm.v1 at gmail.com (FIRESTORM_v1) Date: Sun Dec 2 23:51:36 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: <869de8470712022151xfee2fa4o1895ebae7a0712ad@mail.gmail.com> Gee, off the top of my head.... I know... I'm a bad geek. Here's one for you. What runs on port 27960? NO PEEKING!!! :P FIRESTORM_v1 On Dec 2, 2007 11:39 PM, luis Garza wrote: > We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. > > What services use the following ports: > > Port Service > =========================== > 21=FTP > 22=SSH > 25=Telnet > 43=? > 53=DNS > 69=DNS? > 80=HTTP > 88=HTTP proxy? > 110=POP3 > 111=? > 119=? > 135=? > 137=Part of SMB/NMB > 161=? > 194=? > 389=? > 445=HTTPS > 995=? > 1433=? > 1434=? > 1801=? > 1812=? > 2107=? > 3268=? > 3269=? > 3389=? Have fun!!! > > Luis Garza > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Mon Dec 3 00:49:57 2007 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tom Weeks) Date: Mon Dec 3 00:50:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] myp2p.eu for linux equivalent In-Reply-To: <475390D4.1020702@satx.rr.com> References: <978950.3383.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <475390D4.1020702@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <200712030049.57947.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Sunday 02 December 2007 23:15:00 Mike Todd wrote: > Alex Bartonek wrote: > > Is there a equivalent site that I can use w/linux > > software to watch TV on my linux box? ppmate for > > linux etc? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >___________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > > Make Yahoo! your homepage. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > try mythdora. works pretty good. I've been very impressed with it. All that work that I spent on that MythTV chapter of Linux Toys II... most of which can be replaced just by running mythdora (well.. except for maybe LVM atop RAID1... I've been very happy with MythDora. Tweeks From brad at shub-internet.org Mon Dec 3 02:15:27 2007 From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Mon Dec 3 02:21:04 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/2/07, M K Ramadoss wrote: > Has anyone had on-hands use of the XO? I played with one at the LISA'07 conference in Dallas a couple of weeks ago. > Would it work by connecting to home Wifi and would it be a good Christmas > present for a child in the US? It is available for purchase till end of > month, in their buy one gift one program. I think it does peer networking only, but I'm not sure. I know that the interface is nothing like anything I've ever seen before, so anyone with any computer experience would have some un-learning to do. I do recall that they recently announced that only orders placed before some date in early November (November 12th?) will be shipped in time for Christmas. So, if you order one now, it probably won't come in for a few months. -- Brad Knowles LinkedIn Profile: From argiod at bresnan.net Mon Dec 3 05:22:47 2007 From: argiod at bresnan.net (John Chalinder) Date: Mon Dec 3 05:22:15 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They have extended the 'Give One, Get One' program to Dec 31st in the US and Canada: From now through December 31, 2007, OLPC is offering a Give One Get One program in the United States and Canada. This is the first time the revolutionary XO laptop has been made available to the general public. For a donation of $399, one XO laptop will be sent to empower a child in a developing nation and one will be sent to the child in your life in recognition of your contribution. $200 of your donation is tax-deductible (your $399 donation minus the fair market value of the XO laptop you will be receiving). In addition: For all U.S. donors who participate in the Give One Get One program, T-Mobile is offering one year of complimentary HotSpot access. Find out more. If you participate in Give One Get One today, you will receive your XO laptop(s) in early 2008. Your donated laptop will reach a child in Afghanistan, Cambodia, Haiti, Mongolia or Rwanda in the same early 2008 timeframe. If I had $399 to spare, I'd do it for two reasons: 1) I love the idea of donating a computer to a third world child, even though I think they could use food, clothing, shelter and medical care more; and, 2) I'd love to see what a $100 computer comes with. It certainly is colorful, and claims to be fairly rugged and waterproof. I'm sure I could find a child among my friends who would enjoy a brand new computer. It appears to have connectivity via wi-fi, which they claim has a much longer range than a standard laptop. The only specs I can find are on their FAQ page: http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/faq.php I'm sure this would not be a system suitable for any use beyond the education of third world children. "The XO laptop features the Linux operating system and includes software specifically designed for children and the XO." They are not designed for everyday use by anyone other than children, and does not look like it will not be made available to the general public except through this limited time offer of 'Give One, Get One' program; which is designed to promote the program. The idea is to get laptops into the hands of third world children so they may have an affordable means of improving their education. On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:30:41 -0600 "M K Ramadoss" wrote: > Has anyone had on-hands use of the XO? > > Would it work by connecting to home Wifi and would it be a good Christmas > present for a child in the US? It is available for purchase till end of > month, in their buy one gift one program. > > mkr > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From tuupes80 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 3 08:12:29 2007 From: tuupes80 at hotmail.com (Stewart Smith) Date: Mon Dec 3 08:12:33 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Had a chance to play with one, but not extensively, at the O'Reily Open Source Conference in Portland. Would make a good kids gift, but the keyboard was too small for my hands. Computer formed peer to peer group while I played with it. Do not know details, so can't say if it would be compatible with home WiFi. Don't expect that it works with DHCP, since it had self forming peer to peer network. Was sorry the keyboard was so small -- I would have bought one for personal use. Hope this helps> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:30:41 -0600> From: mkr777@gmail.com> To: satlug@satlug.org> Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child> > Has anyone had on-hands use of the XO?> > Would it work by connecting to home Wifi and would it be a good Christmas> present for a child in the US? It is available for purchase till end of> month, in their buy one gift one program.> > mkr> -- > _______________________________________________> SATLUG mailing list> SATLUG@satlug.org> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 From tuupes80 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 3 08:14:46 2007 From: tuupes80 at hotmail.com (Stewart Smith) Date: Mon Dec 3 08:14:48 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sticks in my mind that the interface, which is called, I believe, "Sugar," is based on Python. > From: argiod@bresnan.net> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] XO One Laptop per Child> To: satlug@satlug.org> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 04:22:47 -0700> > They have extended the 'Give One, Get One' program to Dec 31st in the US and > Canada:> > From now through December 31, 2007, OLPC is offering a Give One Get One > program in the United States and Canada. This is the first time the > revolutionary XO laptop has been made available to the general public. For a > donation of $399, one XO laptop will be sent to empower a child in a > developing nation and one will be sent to the child in your life in > recognition of your contribution. $200 of your donation is tax-deductible > (your $399 donation minus the fair market value of the XO laptop you will be > receiving).> > In addition:> For all U.S. donors who participate in the Give One Get One program, > T-Mobile is offering one year of complimentary HotSpot access. Find out more.> > If you participate in Give One Get One today, you will receive your XO > laptop(s) in early 2008. Your donated laptop will reach a child in > Afghanistan, Cambodia, Haiti, Mongolia or Rwanda in the same early 2008 > timeframe.> > If I had $399 to spare, I'd do it for two reasons:> 1) I love the idea of donating a computer to a third world child, even though > I think they could use food, clothing, shelter and medical care more; and,> 2) I'd love to see what a $100 computer comes with. It certainly is colorful, > and claims to be fairly rugged and waterproof. I'm sure I could find a child > among my friends who would enjoy a brand new computer.> > It appears to have connectivity via wi-fi, which they claim has a much longer > range than a standard laptop. The only specs I can find are on their FAQ page:> http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/faq.php> > I'm sure this would not be a system suitable for any use beyond the education > of third world children. "The XO laptop features the Linux operating system > and includes software specifically designed for children and the XO."> > They are not designed for everyday use by anyone other than children, and does > not look like it will not be made available to the general public except > through this limited time offer of 'Give One, Get One' program; which is > designed to promote the program. The idea is to get laptops into the hands of > third world children so they may have an affordable means of improving their > education.> > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:30:41 -0600> "M K Ramadoss" wrote:> > Has anyone had on-hands use of the XO?> > > > Would it work by connecting to home Wifi and would it be a good Christmas> > present for a child in the US? It is available for purchase till end of> > month, in their buy one gift one program.> > > > mkr> > -- > > _______________________________________________> > SATLUG mailing list> > SATLUG@satlug.org> > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe> > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com)> > -- > _______________________________________________> SATLUG mailing list> SATLUG@satlug.org> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i?m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM From twistedpickles at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 10:03:59 2007 From: twistedpickles at gmail.com (twistedpickles) Date: Mon Dec 3 10:04:05 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio Message-ID: I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in attending SAC or New Horizons. Any recommendations? -- ::twistedPickles:: : From leif at paisd.net Mon Dec 3 10:49:06 2007 From: leif at paisd.net (Leif Johnson) Date: Mon Dec 3 10:57:19 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES training in SA in April? Boy could I use that! -- Sincerely, Leif Johnson (361) 749-1200 x. 316 http://blog.paisd.net On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, twistedpickles wrote: > I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in attending SAC > or New Horizons. Any recommendations? > > From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 11:06:34 2007 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Mon Dec 3 11:06:36 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> Knew more than I thought, but there are a few gaps. On Dec 2, 2007 11:39 PM, luis Garza wrote: > We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. > > What services use the following ports: > > Port Service > =========================== > 21 FTP > 22 SSH > 25 SMTP > 43 > 53 DNS > 69 TFTP > 80 HTTP > 88 > 110 POP3 > 111 PORTMAP > 119 NNTP > 135 MS RPC > 137 NETBIOS-NS > 161 SNMP > 194 > 389 LDAP > 445 NETBIOS (new) > 995 POP3-S > 1433 MSSQL Server > 1434 MSSQL Monitor (yay slammer) > 1801 > 1812 RADIUS > 2107 > 3268 > 3269 > 3389 MS Terminal Services > > Have fun!!! > > Luis Garza > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" - Alan Kay From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 11:38:42 2007 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Mon Dec 3 11:38:49 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> Leif Johnson wrote: > > I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of > costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES training in > SA in April? Boy could I use that! iptables is not that hard. Ultimately, it comes down to doing one of three things with a packet: ACCEPT, REJECT, or DROP and the use of REJECT is rare. The real issue is knowing what to drop and what to accept. You do also have to have a fairly good knowledge of the internet protocols at the link, ip, and tcp layers to match the packets you decide to ACCEPT or DROP. Probably 90% of the time you only need to know -s, -d, and -p (source IP, destination IP, and protocol). There are other things too like masquerading/address translation or accounting/logging, but those issues are not that common. Simple masquerading is a one liner. There are some good tutorials at http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto -- Bruce From listylist at unwirednation.com Mon Dec 3 11:47:27 2007 From: listylist at unwirednation.com (Andrew Sanders) Date: Mon Dec 3 11:48:34 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1196704047.2869.9.camel@madmax.unwiredbuyer.com> Unless there are some other takers, I may be interested in doing an iptables primer/presentation at one of the meetings. I don't believe I'll have the time to do an all day training session though. What are the SATLUG meetings like anyways? I've never been to one. Is there a projection system available or machines to test/work with? -Andrew- On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:49 -0600, Leif Johnson wrote: > I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of > costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES training in > SA in April? Boy could I use that! > > -- > Sincerely, > Leif Johnson > (361) 749-1200 x. 316 > http://blog.paisd.net From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Mon Dec 3 12:02:04 2007 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:02:46 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> References: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4754449C.2070903@cis.sac.accd.edu> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Leif Johnson wrote: > >> I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of >> costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES training in >> SA in April? Boy could I use that! >> > > iptables is not that hard. Ultimately, it comes down to doing one of > three things with a packet: ACCEPT, REJECT, or DROP and the use of > REJECT is rare. The real issue is knowing what to drop and what to accept. > > You do also have to have a fairly good knowledge of the internet > protocols at the link, ip, and tcp layers to match the packets you > decide to ACCEPT or DROP. Probably 90% of the time you only need to > know -s, -d, and -p (source IP, destination IP, and protocol). > > There are other things too like masquerading/address translation or > accounting/logging, but those issues are not that common. Simple > masquerading is a one liner. > > There are some good tutorials at > http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto > > -- Bruce > Well said Bruce. I would like to stress what some might have read over without catching the importance--"a fairly good knowledge of the internet protocols." If you do not have this, there is no reason for you to be customizing firewall rules. We could incorporate this into the Open Source Fest in March, if there is enough interest. Steve From hc at lookcee.com Mon Dec 3 12:19:27 2007 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:19:16 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> References: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <475448AF.7030408@lookcee.com> Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Leif Johnson wrote: > >> I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of >> costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES training in >> SA in April? Boy could I use that! >> > > iptables is not that hard. Ultimately, it comes down to doing one of > three things with a packet: ACCEPT, REJECT, or DROP and the use of > REJECT is rare. The real issue is knowing what to drop and what to accept. > > You do also have to have a fairly good knowledge of the internet > protocols at the link, ip, and tcp layers to match the packets you > decide to ACCEPT or DROP. Probably 90% of the time you only need to > know -s, -d, and -p (source IP, destination IP, and protocol). > > There are other things too like masquerading/address translation or > accounting/logging, but those issues are not that common. Simple > masquerading is a one liner. > > There are some good tutorials at > http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto > Thanks Bruce gives me 'hope'. I am sure struggling with the concept of the tables. I have three browser windows open with 4-6tabs in each all dealing with Linux, Ubuntu in particular, not limited to the IP tables and i just found this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gip-ip-calculator-for-gnome-desktop-environment.html I not sharp enough to even know if it is a valuable 'gismo' or not, lol. would appreciate comments on the use of. herb > -- Bruce > From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Mon Dec 3 12:20:11 2007 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:20:56 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <4754449C.2070903@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> <4754449C.2070903@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: <475448DB.4090603@cis.sac.accd.edu> skolars wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Leif Johnson wrote: >> >>> I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of >>> costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES >>> training in >>> SA in April? Boy could I use that! >>> >> >> iptables is not that hard. Ultimately, it comes down to doing one of >> three things with a packet: ACCEPT, REJECT, or DROP and the use of >> REJECT is rare. The real issue is knowing what to drop and what to >> accept. >> >> You do also have to have a fairly good knowledge of the internet >> protocols at the link, ip, and tcp layers to match the packets you >> decide to ACCEPT or DROP. Probably 90% of the time you only need to >> know -s, -d, and -p (source IP, destination IP, and protocol). >> >> There are other things too like masquerading/address translation or >> accounting/logging, but those issues are not that common. Simple >> masquerading is a one liner. >> >> There are some good tutorials at >> http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto >> >> -- Bruce >> > Well said Bruce. I would like to stress what some might have read > over without catching the importance--"a fairly good knowledge of the > internet protocols." If you do not have this, there is no reason for > you to be customizing firewall rules. We could incorporate this into > the Open Source Fest in March, if there is enough interest. > > Steve > Oops, I forgot...there already is a firewall sessions scheduled for Friday evening on just this subject. For those that need a refresher on protocols, there will be a session on that Wednesday evening. Steve From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 12:54:58 2007 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:55:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> cat /etc/services .. On 12/3/07, Henry Pugsley wrote: > > Knew more than I thought, but there are a few gaps. > > On Dec 2, 2007 11:39 PM, luis Garza wrote: > > We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. > > > > What services use the following ports: > > > > Port Service > > =========================== > > 21 FTP > > 22 SSH > > 25 SMTP > > 43 > > 53 DNS > > 69 TFTP > > 80 HTTP > > 88 > > 110 POP3 > > 111 PORTMAP > > 119 NNTP > > 135 MS RPC > > 137 NETBIOS-NS > > 161 SNMP > > 194 > > 389 LDAP > > 445 NETBIOS (new) > > 995 POP3-S > > 1433 MSSQL Server > > 1434 MSSQL Monitor (yay slammer) > > 1801 > > 1812 RADIUS > > 2107 > > 3268 > > 3269 > > 3389 MS Terminal Services > > > > Have fun!!! > > > > Luis Garza > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > > -- > "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" - Alan Kay > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 12:57:50 2007 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:57:53 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0712031057u2068dc77x189bc2ad155f20ad@mail.gmail.com> That wouldn't be as much fun! On Dec 3, 2007 12:54 PM, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > cat /etc/services .. > From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 13:01:27 2007 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:01:29 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <128bff2f0712031101r569c75fdke65be64f26018818@mail.gmail.com> Just buy a good network + book.. Most classes or schools will have you read the book and answer the questions in the back, if you get stumped on an ideal or subject just mail the list I'm sure there are many here who could and would answer. Also set up a small lab to test the concepts in the book, Linux provides most services and protocols discussed in the Network + test. Zeb On 12/3/07, twistedpickles wrote: > > I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in attending > SAC > or New Horizons. Any recommendations? > > -- > ::twistedPickles:: : > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From dubose at texas.net Mon Dec 3 13:20:16 2007 From: dubose at texas.net (Walt DuBose) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:21:17 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP Port Used by AT&T Message-ID: <475456F0.9030400@texas.net> At&T uses port 465 for smtp. Strange... Walt urd 465/tcp URL Rendesvous Directory for SSM igmpv3lite 465/udp IGMP over UDP for SSM From agrayfox at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 13:27:52 2007 From: agrayfox at gmail.com (augie grayfox) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:25:11 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <128bff2f0712031101r569c75fdke65be64f26018818@mail.gmail.com> References: <128bff2f0712031101r569c75fdke65be64f26018818@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200712031227.52112.agrayfox@gmail.com> On Monday 03 December 2007 12:01, Zeb Fletcher wrote: >> Just buy a good network + book.. Most classes or schools will have you read >> the book and answer the questions in the back, if you get stumped on an >> ideal or subject just mail the list I'm sure there are many here who could >> and would answer. Also set up a small lab to test the concepts in the book, >> Linux provides most services and protocols discussed in the Network + test. >> >> >> Zeb >> >> >> On 12/3/07, twistedpickles wrote: >> > >> > I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in attending >> > SAC >> > or New Horizons. Any recommendations? >> > >> > -- >> > ::twistedPickles:: : >> > -- All I did was buy the Network + book and self studied and was able to pass the test first time I tried. You can get a good deal off ebay. -- augie grayfox Of Windows users, how many of them made a choice to run Windows? Of Linux users, how many of them made a choice to run Linux? Tell me again, which is more popular? From j at jvpappas.net Mon Dec 3 13:52:56 2007 From: j at jvpappas.net (John Pappas) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:53:00 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Skype Alternatives for linux In-Reply-To: <277020fc0712021219k6957b1c1p6d5797817b36072a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ae131d00711301118m1158dc61mb4badfb57b56eb76@mail.gmail.com> <20071201041546.GI1783@subspacefield.org> <200711302355.06760.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> <277020fc0712021219k6957b1c1p6d5797817b36072a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c0ec4450712031152u5597d2dcg2a12fe6d47717f93@mail.gmail.com> I use TelIAX. Since it is a seldom-used service, I pay per minute and per inbound number. It costs 5/number/month plus usage (2-3 cents/min) billed in set $ increments. I have it configured to connect via IAX to my Asterisk box, but SIP works too. John On Dec 2, 2007 2:19 PM, Sean Carolan wrote: > > > days I wouldn't bother with a POTS telephone line. Use VoIP for > > > $5/mo and use cell if your WAN link is down. > > > > > > Who's your VOIP provider Travis? > > I'm also curious to know about $5/month VoIP service. I have a CISCO > ATA186 adapter that I used to use with Vonage. After fighting with > their customer service for about 4 hours, I managed to find a > technician who could unlock it for me. So now it works with just > about any SIP-capable server. I used to use it with Broadvoice for a > while, but they were around $30 a month. > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From edcoates at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 13:53:13 2007 From: edcoates at gmail.com (Ed Coates) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:53:17 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] SMTP Port Used by AT&T In-Reply-To: <475456F0.9030400@texas.net> References: <475456F0.9030400@texas.net> Message-ID: <8ee65edd0712031153h68e4355et3ded5be4e78677c7@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 3, 2007 1:20 PM, Walt DuBose wrote: > At&T uses port 465 for smtp. > > Strange... > > Walt > > urd 465/tcp URL Rendesvous Directory for SSM > igmpv3lite 465/udp IGMP over UDP for SSM > -- Walt, Here's what I have on my Ubuntu server in /etc/servivces ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL Looks like they're doing secure mail Ed From gboswell at accd.edu Sun Dec 2 07:44:29 2007 From: gboswell at accd.edu (Glenn F. Boswell) Date: Mon Dec 3 15:06:55 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Partition tool for ext3, vfat32 and NTFS Message-ID: <4752B6BD.9000007@accd.edu> > > I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu, so forgive me if this isn't 'on target' for your > needs. Though it's not a partitioner, per se, I have found that Win4Lin > handles both the ext3 and NTFS partitions well for its purposes. One could > conceivably run it long enough to adjust partitions, then exit. If you're > keeping NTFS partition to run Windows apps, then you could continue and do a > full install of Windows in the created/adjusted NTFS partition. > > It's a proprietary package, so costs around $50 US. But I find it to be > superior to any other Windows 'emulator' for Linux. I'll be installing it on > my system as soon as my new copy of Windows XP MCE arrives this coming week. > I'll post a personal review as soon as it's up and running. > John thanks for the response. I was a user of win4lin several years a ago but migrated to VMWare server which is free and much more robust. In fact I had Virtual PC in the NTFS partition and VMWare server in the ext2 partitions. I Use both in my work, mainly demonstration for my classes. I have never installed VMWare into ubuntu but several have so should be a snap for you. Go to www.vmware.com and select the Products and Server Virtualization Products and look at all the vmware apps available, and almost all are free. Thanks again for the help. -- Glenn Boswell "Boz" gboswell@cis.sac.accd.edu Note the address above as gboswell@accd.edu dies 12/1/07 Personal email should be directed to gboswellsac@yahoo.com San Antonio College Dept. CIS (210)-733-2866 "Freedom is not FREE", let us never forget. "We make a living by what we Get. We make a LIFE by what we GIVE." anonymous From luis at luisgarza.com Mon Dec 3 15:40:43 2007 From: luis at luisgarza.com (luis Garza) Date: Mon Dec 3 15:40:55 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <475477DB.3060804@luisgarza.com> Zeb Fletcher wrote: > cat /etc/services .. > > > > On 12/3/07, Henry Pugsley wrote: > >> Knew more than I thought, but there are a few gaps. >> >> On Dec 2, 2007 11:39 PM, luis Garza wrote: >> >>> We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. >>> >>> What services use the following ports: >>> >>> Port Service >>> =========================== >>> 21 FTP >>> 22 SSH >>> 25 SMTP >>> 43 whois >>> 53 DNS >>> 69 TFTP >>> 80 HTTP >>> 88 kerberos >>> 110 POP3 >>> 111 PORTMAP >>> 119 NNTP >>> 135 MS RPC >>> 137 NETBIOS-NS >>> 161 SNMP >>> 194 >>> 389 LDAP >>> 445 NETBIOS (new) >>> 995 POP3-S >>> 1433 MSSQL Server >>> 1434 MSSQL Monitor (yay slammer) >>> 1801 >>> 1812 RADIUS >>> 2107 >>> 3268 >>> 3269 >>> 3389 MS Terminal Services >>> >>> Have fun!!! >>> >>> Luis Garza OK, /etc/service has most but not ALL!!! Good job on the Microsoft stuff but there are more! This is good to know, in case you need to open a port on a router or redirect the ports to a specific IP (iptables). From twistedpickles at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 15:52:25 2007 From: twistedpickles at gmail.com (twistedpickles) Date: Mon Dec 3 15:52:27 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <200712031227.52112.agrayfox@gmail.com> References: <128bff2f0712031101r569c75fdke65be64f26018818@mail.gmail.com> <200712031227.52112.agrayfox@gmail.com> Message-ID: I feel confident enough to learn by book...thanks. On Dec 3, 2007 1:27 PM, augie grayfox wrote: > On Monday 03 December 2007 12:01, Zeb Fletcher wrote: > >> Just buy a good network + book.. Most classes or schools will have you > read > >> the book and answer the questions in the back, if you get stumped on an > >> ideal or subject just mail the list I'm sure there are many here who > could > >> and would answer. Also set up a small lab to test the concepts in the > book, > >> Linux provides most services and protocols discussed in the Network + > test. > >> > >> > >> Zeb > >> > >> > >> On 12/3/07, twistedpickles wrote: > >> > > >> > I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in > attending > >> > SAC > >> > or New Horizons. Any recommendations? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ::twistedPickles:: : > >> > -- > > All I did was buy the Network + book and self studied and was able to pass > the > test first time I tried. You can get a good deal off ebay. > -- > augie grayfox > > Of Windows users, how many of them made a choice to run Windows? > Of Linux users, how many of them made a choice to run Linux? > > Tell me again, which is more popular? > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- ::twistedPickles:: : From aaron at aaronhackney.com Mon Dec 3 16:10:41 2007 From: aaron at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Mon Dec 3 16:10:47 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: References: <128bff2f0712031101r569c75fdke65be64f26018818@mail.gmail.com> <200712031227.52112.agrayfox@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47547EE1.8020200@aaronhackney.com> I've taught Net+ many times. Just judging from what I've seen from you on the list, you'll have no problem with the Net+. It's a smattering of material, but it's all pretty low-level IMHO. They do throw in some command line Windows specific stuff (nbtstat, some user administration, that kind of thing) and even a linux question or two ;) -A twistedpickles wrote: > I feel confident enough to learn by book...thanks. > > > > On Dec 3, 2007 1:27 PM, augie grayfox wrote: > > >> On Monday 03 December 2007 12:01, Zeb Fletcher wrote: >> >>>> Just buy a good network + book.. Most classes or schools will have you >>>> >> read >> >>>> the book and answer the questions in the back, if you get stumped on an >>>> ideal or subject just mail the list I'm sure there are many here who >>>> >> could >> >>>> and would answer. Also set up a small lab to test the concepts in the >>>> >> book, >> >>>> Linux provides most services and protocols discussed in the Network + >>>> >> test. >> >>>> Zeb >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/3/07, twistedpickles wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm looking to take a network+ class and I'm not interested in >>>>> >> attending >> >>>>> SAC >>>>> or New Horizons. Any recommendations? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ::twistedPickles:: : >>>>> -- >>>>> >> All I did was buy the Network + book and self studied and was able to pass >> the >> test first time I tried. You can get a good deal off ebay. >> -- >> augie grayfox >> >> Of Windows users, how many of them made a choice to run Windows? >> Of Linux users, how many of them made a choice to run Linux? >> >> Tell me again, which is more popular? >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> SATLUG mailing list >> SATLUG@satlug.org >> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >> >> > > > > From aaron at aaronhackney.com Mon Dec 3 16:53:23 2007 From: aaron at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Mon Dec 3 16:53:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <475488E3.6020606@aaronhackney.com> This has been addressed by the IPv6 RFC's (I think....) "Because of certain privacy and security concerns, the implementation of autoconfiguration by a host may also create a random interface identifier using the MAC address as a base. This is considered a privacy extension because, without it, creating an interface identifier from a MAC address provides the ability to track the activity and point of connection." So, the way I read this, is that using an algoithm and the MAC of a nic as a seed, a unique, short-lived IPv6 address is created without the actual MAC address embedded in the IPv6 Address. XP does this by default (Again, I believe). Not sure about Linux implementations of IPv6. -A Hector Bojorquez wrote: > Just a question... > > Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer on the > Internet? > > I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen the > path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. > > I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it enough > > any thoughts? > From aaron at aaronhackney.com Mon Dec 3 16:55:14 2007 From: aaron at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Mon Dec 3 16:55:16 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> Oh ya, it was in the RFC - RFC 3041. I am very green in the IPv6 arena myself and just coming up to speed on it... -A Hector Bojorquez wrote: > Just a question... > > Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer on the > Internet? > > I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen the > path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. > > I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it enough > > any thoughts? > From richard.maynard at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 17:31:20 2007 From: richard.maynard at gmail.com (Richard Maynard) Date: Mon Dec 3 17:31:22 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <475477DB.3060804@luisgarza.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> <1003aeaa0712030906i50eb00d2p407472147f487130@mail.gmail.com> <128bff2f0712031054y11272549s3df7e34fc97faa17@mail.gmail.com> <475477DB.3060804@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: <2c5b55440712031531v11cd9691iaae9f84cab153a83@mail.gmail.com> > > >>> 194 > 194 is the default IRC port, though more often than not, non priviledged ports are selected for use on IRC networks. > >>> 1801 > 1801 is a multi cast port used by the Microsoft Message Queue service. > >>> 2107 > Not sure, I'd have to resort to Google to answer this one. > >>> 3268 > >>> 3269 > These are both ports commonly used by Domain Controllers in a windows network, one provides access to the global catalog, and the other provides SSL access to the global catalog. -- Richard Maynard From hector.bojorquez at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 17:41:10 2007 From: hector.bojorquez at gmail.com (Hector Bojorquez) Date: Mon Dec 3 17:41:12 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> Message-ID: <2470980d0712031541o1e22d35bxeb6a3993fc62d71a@mail.gmail.com> wow... that's really interesting. short lived IPv6 address? How short lived would that be-- and then does that mean that-- theoretically-- that IPs could get duplicated. A random seed doesn't guarantee that an IP adress couldn't be duplicated-- Person A in Mexico could get an IP and then someone in china could also get the same one (theoretically... chances are small seeing the nature or random seeds, MAC addresses and the large number of IPs available). This is really interesting (or I'm a great big dork) but how are networks going to be defined with IPv6 Will Company A just buy a range of IPs? Where do I learn?!! IP6!!! "So, the way I read this, is that using an algoithm and the MAC of a nic as a seed, a unique, short-lived IPv6 address is created without the actual MAC address embedded in the IPv6 Address." On Dec 3, 2007 4:55 PM, Aaron Hackney wrote: > Oh ya, it was in the RFC - RFC 3041. I am very green in the IPv6 arena > myself and just coming up to speed on it... > -A > > > Hector Bojorquez wrote: > > Just a question... > > > > Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer on > the > > Internet? > > > > I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen > the > > path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. > > > > I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it enough > > > > any thoughts? > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 17:47:47 2007 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Mon Dec 3 17:47:51 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <2470980d0712031541o1e22d35bxeb6a3993fc62d71a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> <2470980d0712031541o1e22d35bxeb6a3993fc62d71a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0712031547m3657648i3aebec158d88f371@mail.gmail.com> You still have network boundaries like in IPv4, except they are a lot larger (small allocation is a /48?). You would only have to worry about duplicates within the network block, and that should not be too hard if there is a unique seed for each IP address. This may be similar to how VMware generates hardware addresses for virtual NICs based on a real physical address without causing collisions. -Henry On Dec 3, 2007 5:41 PM, Hector Bojorquez wrote: > wow... that's really interesting. > short lived IPv6 address? > How short lived would that be-- and then does that mean that-- > theoretically-- that IPs could get duplicated. > A random seed doesn't guarantee that an IP adress couldn't be duplicated-- > Person A in Mexico could get an IP and then someone in china could also > get > the same one (theoretically... chances are small seeing the nature or > random > seeds, MAC addresses and the large number of IPs available). > > This is really interesting (or I'm a great big dork) but how are networks > going to be defined with IPv6 > Will Company A just buy a range of IPs? > > Where do I learn?!! > IP6!!! > > "So, the way I read this, is that using an algoithm and the MAC of a nic > as a seed, a unique, short-lived IPv6 address is created without the > actual MAC address embedded in the IPv6 Address." > > On Dec 3, 2007 4:55 PM, Aaron Hackney wrote: > > > Oh ya, it was in the RFC - RFC 3041. I am very green in the IPv6 arena > > myself and just coming up to speed on it... > > -A > > > > > > Hector Bojorquez wrote: > > > Just a question... > > > > > > Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer > on > > the > > > Internet? > > > > > > I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen > > the > > > path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. > > > > > > I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it > enough > > > > > > any thoughts? > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" - Alan Kay From hector.bojorquez at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 17:50:27 2007 From: hector.bojorquez at gmail.com (Hector Bojorquez) Date: Mon Dec 3 17:50:29 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <1003aeaa0712031547m3657648i3aebec158d88f371@mail.gmail.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> <2470980d0712031541o1e22d35bxeb6a3993fc62d71a@mail.gmail.com> <1003aeaa0712031547m3657648i3aebec158d88f371@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2470980d0712031550k5be3e675le684811a874bf0a1@mail.gmail.com> I just noticed Mr Pugsley has a quote by one of my heros-- Alan Kay' On Dec 3, 2007 5:47 PM, Henry Pugsley wrote: > You still have network boundaries like in IPv4, except they are a lot > larger > (small allocation is a /48?). You would only have to worry about > duplicates > within the network block, and that should not be too hard if there is a > unique seed for each IP address. This may be similar to how VMware > generates hardware addresses for virtual NICs based on a real physical > address without causing collisions. > > -Henry > > On Dec 3, 2007 5:41 PM, Hector Bojorquez > wrote: > > > wow... that's really interesting. > > short lived IPv6 address? > > How short lived would that be-- and then does that mean that-- > > theoretically-- that IPs could get duplicated. > > A random seed doesn't guarantee that an IP adress couldn't be > duplicated-- > > Person A in Mexico could get an IP and then someone in china could also > > get > > the same one (theoretically... chances are small seeing the nature or > > random > > seeds, MAC addresses and the large number of IPs available). > > > > This is really interesting (or I'm a great big dork) but how are > networks > > going to be defined with IPv6 > > Will Company A just buy a range of IPs? > > > > Where do I learn?!! > > IP6!!! > > > > "So, the way I read this, is that using an algoithm and the MAC of a nic > > as a seed, a unique, short-lived IPv6 address is created without the > > actual MAC address embedded in the IPv6 Address." > > > > On Dec 3, 2007 4:55 PM, Aaron Hackney wrote: > > > > > Oh ya, it was in the RFC - RFC 3041. I am very green in the IPv6 arena > > > myself and just coming up to speed on it... > > > -A > > > > > > > > > Hector Bojorquez wrote: > > > > Just a question... > > > > > > > > Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy > killer > > on > > > the > > > > Internet? > > > > > > > > I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head > doen > > > the > > > > path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. > > > > > > > > I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it > > enough > > > > > > > > any thoughts? > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SATLUG mailing list > > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > > > -- > "The best way to predict the future is to invent it" - Alan Kay > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From agrayfox at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 18:09:14 2007 From: agrayfox at gmail.com (augie grayfox) Date: Mon Dec 3 18:06:33 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: <200712031709.14231.agrayfox@gmail.com> On Sunday 02 December 2007 10:39, luis Garza wrote: >> Port ? ? Service >> =========================== 21 ftp 21/tcp File Transfer [Control] ftp 21/udp File Transfer [Control] 22 ssh 22/tcp SSH Remote Login Protocol ssh 22/udp SSH Remote Login Protocol 25 smtp 25/tcp Simple Mail Transfer smtp 25/udp Simple Mail Transfer 43 nicname 43/tcp Who Is nicname 43/udp Who Is 53 xns-ch 54/tcp XNS Clearinghouse xns-ch 54/udp XNS Clearinghouse 69 tftp 69/tcp Trivial File Transfer tftp 69/udp Trivial File Transfer 80 http 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP http 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP www 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP www 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP www-http 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP www-http 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP 88 kerberos 88/tcp Kerberos kerberos 88/udp Kerberos 110 pop3 110/tcp Post Office Protocol - Version 3 pop3 110/udp Post Office Protocol - Version 3 111 sunrpc 111/tcp SUN Remote Procedure Call sunrpc 111/udp SUN Remote Procedure Call 119 nntp 119/tcp Network News Transfer Protocol nntp 119/udp Network News Transfer Protocol 135 epmap 135/tcp DCE endpoint resolution epmap 135/udp DCE endpoint resolution 137 netbios-ns 137/tcp NETBIOS Name Service netbios-ns 137/udp NETBIOS Name Service 161 snmp 161/tcp SNMP snmp 161/udp SNMP 194 irc 194/tcp Internet Relay Chat Protocol irc 194/udp Internet Relay Chat Protocol 389 ldap 389/tcp Lightweight Directory Access Protocol ldap 389/udp Lightweight Directory Access Protocol 445 microsoft-ds 445/tcp Microsoft-DS microsoft-ds 445/udp Microsoft-DS 995 pop3s 995/tcp pop3 protocol over TLS/SSL (was spop3) pop3s 995/udp pop3 protocol over TLS/SSL (was spop3) 1433 ms-sql-s 1433/tcp Microsoft-SQL-Server ms-sql-s 1433/udp Microsoft-SQL-Server 1434 ms-sql-m 1434/tcp Microsoft-SQL-Monitor ms-sql-m 1434/udp Microsoft-SQL-Monitor 1801 concomp1 1802/tcp ConComp1 concomp1 1802/udp ConComp1 1812 radius 1812/tcp RADIUS radius 1812/udp RADIUS 2107 bintec-admin 2107/tcp BinTec Admin bintec-admin 2107/udp BinTec Admin 3268 msft-gc 3268/tcp Microsoft Global Catalog msft-gc 3268/udp Microsoft Global Catalog 3269 msft-gc-ssl 3269/tcp Microsoft Global Catalog with LDAP/SSL msft-gc-ssl 3269/udp Microsoft Global Catalog with LDAP/SSL 3389 ms-wbt-server 3389/tcp MS WBT Server ms-wbt-server 3389/udp MS WBT Server -- augie grayfox From aaron at aaronhackney.com Mon Dec 3 19:20:24 2007 From: aaron at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Mon Dec 3 19:20:26 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Maybe- OT... The future and IPv6 In-Reply-To: <1003aeaa0712031547m3657648i3aebec158d88f371@mail.gmail.com> References: <2470980d0712010601m18afa9a6j55470af5f6ab7789@mail.gmail.com> <47548952.3060106@aaronhackney.com> <2470980d0712031541o1e22d35bxeb6a3993fc62d71a@mail.gmail.com> <1003aeaa0712031547m3657648i3aebec158d88f371@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4754AB58.4010400@aaronhackney.com> Correct. The MAC address only effects the last 64 bits of the 128 bit address which is the "host portion". A 48 bit mac padded with FFFE to create the modified EUI-64 64 bit host identifier. -A Henry Pugsley wrote: > You still have network boundaries like in IPv4, except they are a lot larger > (small allocation is a /48?). You would only have to worry about duplicates > within the network block, and that should not be too hard if there is a > unique seed for each IP address. This may be similar to how VMware > generates hardware addresses for virtual NICs based on a real physical > address without causing collisions. > > -Henry > > On Dec 3, 2007 5:41 PM, Hector Bojorquez wrote: > > >> wow... that's really interesting. >> short lived IPv6 address? >> How short lived would that be-- and then does that mean that-- >> theoretically-- that IPs could get duplicated. >> A random seed doesn't guarantee that an IP adress couldn't be duplicated-- >> Person A in Mexico could get an IP and then someone in china could also >> get >> the same one (theoretically... chances are small seeing the nature or >> random >> seeds, MAC addresses and the large number of IPs available). >> >> This is really interesting (or I'm a great big dork) but how are networks >> going to be defined with IPv6 >> Will Company A just buy a range of IPs? >> >> Where do I learn?!! >> IP6!!! >> >> "So, the way I read this, is that using an algoithm and the MAC of a nic >> as a seed, a unique, short-lived IPv6 address is created without the >> actual MAC address embedded in the IPv6 Address." >> >> On Dec 3, 2007 4:55 PM, Aaron Hackney wrote: >> >> >>> Oh ya, it was in the RFC - RFC 3041. I am very green in the IPv6 arena >>> myself and just coming up to speed on it... >>> -A >>> >>> >>> Hector Bojorquez wrote: >>> >>>> Just a question... >>>> >>>> Do you think eventual implementation of IPv6 will be a privacy killer >>>> >> on >> >>> the >>> >>>> Internet? >>>> >>>> I don't know enough about it but it strikes me that we could head doen >>>> >>> the >>> >>>> path of having folks having IPs issued almost as licenses. >>>> >>>> I see good things and bad things ... but I may not understand it >>>> >> enough >> >>>> any thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SATLUG mailing list >>> SATLUG@satlug.org >>> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >>> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >>> >>> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> SATLUG mailing list >> SATLUG@satlug.org >> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >> >> > > > > From etillman93 at peoplepc.com Mon Dec 3 19:36:57 2007 From: etillman93 at peoplepc.com (Ed) Date: Mon Dec 3 19:37:01 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] network+ training near san antonio In-Reply-To: <475448AF.7030408@lookcee.com> References: <47543F22.4030000@gmail.com> <475448AF.7030408@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <4754AF39.3000802@peoplepc.com> herb cee wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Leif Johnson wrote: >> >>> I did a few Skillpath / Compumaster classes. Not too bad, but kind of >>> costly. Anyone interested in teaching a full day of IPTABLES >>> training in >>> SA in April? Boy could I use that! >>> >> >> iptables is not that hard. Ultimately, it comes down to doing one of >> three things with a packet: ACCEPT, REJECT, or DROP and the use of >> REJECT is rare. The real issue is knowing what to drop and what to >> accept. >> >> You do also have to have a fairly good knowledge of the internet >> protocols at the link, ip, and tcp layers to match the packets you >> decide to ACCEPT or DROP. Probably 90% of the time you only need to >> know -s, -d, and -p (source IP, destination IP, and protocol). >> >> There are other things too like masquerading/address translation or >> accounting/logging, but those issues are not that common. Simple >> masquerading is a one liner. >> >> There are some good tutorials at >> http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto >> > > Thanks Bruce gives me 'hope'. > I am sure struggling with the concept of the tables. I have three > browser hewindows open with 4-6tabs in each all dealing with Linux, > Ubuntu in particular, not limited to the IP tables and i just found > this link: > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gip-ip-calculator-for-gnome-desktop-environment.html > > > I not sharp enough to even know if it is a valuable 'gismo' or not, > lol. would appreciate comments on the use of. > herb IP tables help you determine what/who you want to receive into or block from your system. They don't mean much to common folk unless you're running a personal firewall and want to block certain entities from accessing or exiting your system. Linux systems aren't too prone to the problem, but Windoze is rife with it. If you have any doubts about whether to block an IP address, first, do a "whois" and find out where they're coming from. Then, do a Google on your results and determine whether accepting or dropping fits your needs. As for the original subject, Network+ training in San Antonio, have your friend call Palo Alto College, Corporate and Community Education Department. We're offering both A+ and Network+ courses right after the first of the year. Cheers; Ed Tillman Instructor, I/T Corporate and Community Education Palo Alto College, ACCD, San Antonio, TX CompTIA Network+, A+ Certified; IT Pro Mentor TIA/EIA HTI Instructor Certified From david.salisbury at momentumweb.com Tue Dec 4 11:15:42 2007 From: david.salisbury at momentumweb.com (David Salisbury) Date: Tue Dec 4 11:13:47 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] ODBC Microsoft Access driver for Linux? Message-ID: <049001c83699$4cba67c0$e500a8c0@dsalisburycst> Anyone know of the best solution to create an ODBC connection to a Microsoft Access database from/on a Linux box? It seems there are some free ones floating around, and some that cost, I was just wondering if anyone has had to tackle this problem/issue before? David From zeb.fletcher at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 16:44:26 2007 From: zeb.fletcher at gmail.com (Zeb Fletcher) Date: Tue Dec 4 16:44:30 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Need Touchtone Phones In-Reply-To: <474E296E.9020608@texas.net> References: <4748CE7D.5020102@texas.net> <4748CFD5.8050901@texas.net> <24cb34e0711281806k48059bdcp9bab5d422f362a24@mail.gmail.com> <474E296E.9020608@texas.net> Message-ID: <128bff2f0712041444o48bb3e0enecbb08ab6d9395e7@mail.gmail.com> Not sure if this is what your looking for http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-of-2-Panasonic-3-Line-Phones-with-Speaker-phone_W0QQitemZ120191371020QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120191371020 It is from the Ennes School district in Austin On Nov 28, 2007 8:52 PM, Walt DuBose wrote: > Vinny Huckaba wrote: > > I have an old itt/sbc touchtone phone you can have. > > http://p.office1000.com/vp4/ITT2500VBRIT5.jpg > > > > Super...I'll be intouch > > > I setup a similar system back in the early 90's for our VFD/EMS. I used > a > > televideo 955 terminal and a hayes 2400 bps external modem connected to > a > > low band radio 37.180mhz and a VHF 155.340 so that the S.O. could dial > in > > and page us via our handheld units with tone coded squelch. They would > dial > > into the system, the modem would answer, then key up the transmitter, > the SO > > would enter the 4 digit code, then speak the message. The 955 terminal > was > > used to page, send messages and program the modem. > > > > More or less the same idea but codes will be input via the TTPad with two > small > speakers in the sides of the phone instrument. This will be three line > control...two for duplex audio and one line to ground for push to talk. > > The system will also eventually interface to a Linux PBX and go out via > VOIP > over longer distances than I have wire. :-) > > > > I tinkered with switching to 10 sec xmit and 10sec recv so that you > would > > have half duplex comm. My setup was for proof of concept. We ran it > for > > couple of years until the county decided to upgrade their repeater. The > > system is probably still sitting in the courthouse collecting dust.. > > > > Well I'm sure that the idea is still viable when cellphone do not work or > in an > area where there is no CP service. > > > I later installed a radio telephone interconnect for another Fire Dept, > that > > is still in use today as a backup system. > > > > All the schematics and documentation are somewhere in the attic... > > > > I know the feeling. > > > --Vinny > > Txn and CULater. > > Walt > > > > > > > On 11/24/07, Walt DuBose wrote: > > > >>Oh, I also failed to mention that I have a full 8092.11b link to use but > >>my WAP > >>has died. > >> > >>I am hoping to be able to eventually use multiline PBX software on both > >>ends so > >>I can run the entire control over WiFi. > >> > >>I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. > >> > >>Best Regards to All from Walt/ARS K5YFW...hope to see you in December. > >> > >>Walt DuBose wrote: > >> > >>>I am in need of 3 or 4 of the original AT&T/SWBell touchtone phones for > >>>a command and control system I am building. The Touchtone pad can be > >>>missing from two of the phones. If the phones are multiline phones, > all > >>>the better. > >>> > >>>The idea is to build a remote command and control function that will > >>>work via telephone lines over a distance of a mile but more practicaly > >>>as far as the length of 8 pair cable I can get will work. > >>> > >>>The system will be able to control one of the new ICOM dualband radios > >>>that allow for full radio control via touchtone. Another telephone > will > >>>be used to control an HF Rig. The third and fourth phones will be able > >>>to control LMR radios. > >>> > >>>Also, the 3rd or 4th phones will act as and intercoms between the > remote > >>>and communications unit. > >>> > >>>I would like to get some of the handsets that had PTT switches in them > >>>but if I can't, I can add micro-switches to the handsets. > (Hummmm...does > >>>anyone have a red phone :-) ) Color of the phone doesn't matter. > >>> > >>>This is basically what I worked on back in the early 60's in commercial > >>>2-way radio and later in the early 80's in the Air Force Reserve. > >>> > >>>While on a technical subject...I hope some of you have or will consider > >>>getting phone patches connected to your HF rigs...this is a GREAT way > to > >>>relay voice traffic from a deployed area back to a operations center. > >>> > >>>I'd appreciate any assistance that you can provide. > >>> > >>>Please contact me at k5yfw(at)arrl.net or dubose(at)texas.net > >>> > >>>Thanks and 73, > >>> > >>>In His Love and Care, > >>> > >>>Walt/K5YFW > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SATLUG mailing list > >>SATLUG@satlug.org > >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > >>Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > >> > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From good_bye300 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 4 21:55:45 2007 From: good_bye300 at yahoo.com (Chris Lemire) Date: Tue Dec 4 21:55:49 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Gaming Demos and F/OSS LAN Game Night at XCSSA.org Mon. night.. In-Reply-To: <277020fc0711190808r73c371cfrb62a321078d616b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <270588.59772.qm@web38109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ssh port forwarding doesn't work with udp packets if I was told correctly by a programmer in Australia. However there are other solutions, one of them, I can't remember, but I could find out. Also a Hamachi VPN would allow you to do what you want. Is there going to be another LAN party? If so, I'd like to go. I didn't know about this one until it was too late. Sean Carolan wrote: > > At the XCSSA meeting... If you want to play with us, you'll have to come by. > > It seems that their egress firewall rules don't allow us to play others out > > on the net (much less share our servers out to the net)... so as a result the > > network games that we're going to be playing are going to be on site in our > > own little LAN bubble (with me serving DHCP for the group). Hmm too bad for those of us from out of town who can't make it. I'd be willing to sponsor a reverse SSH tunnel to allow the "outsiders" to play too. Quake 3 FTW! -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From wwalker at bybent.com Tue Dec 4 23:08:25 2007 From: wwalker at bybent.com (Wayne Walker) Date: Tue Dec 4 23:10:03 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Quiz Time In-Reply-To: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> References: <475396AA.2090803@luisgarza.com> Message-ID: <20071205050825.GB4256@bybent.com> The power of Unix: cat > /tmp/a # cut and paste the port numbers, hit Control D cat /tmp/a | sed -e 's/^/ /' -e 's/$/\//' > /tmp/b # hit Control V then Tab to insert that tab after the / grep -f /tmp/b /etc/services # Voila'! all the answers! On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 11:39:54PM -0600, luis Garza wrote: > We haven't had a quiz in a long time. How about this one. > > What services use the following ports: > > Port Service > =========================== > 21 > 22 > 25 > 43 > 53 > 69 > 80 > 88 > 110 > 111 > 119 > 135 > 137 > 161 > 194 > 389 > 445 > 995 > 1433 > 1434 > 1801 > 1812 > 2107 > 3268 > 3269 > 3389 > > Have fun!!! > > Luis Garza > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) -- Wayne Walker # Code comments are lies waiting to happen wwalker@bybent.com Do you use Linux?! http://www.bybent.com Get Counted! http://counter.li.org/ Perl - http://www.perl.org/ Perl User Groups - http://www.pm.org/ Jabber: wwalker@jabber.gnumber.com AIM: lwwalkerbybent IRC: wwalker on freenode.net From president at satlug.org Wed Dec 5 08:05:50 2007 From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President) Date: Wed Dec 5 08:05:52 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> A reminder to all the computer show is on Saturday at the Live Oak Civic Center. See you there! Jim From etillman93 at peoplepc.com Wed Dec 5 08:51:18 2007 From: etillman93 at peoplepc.com (Ed) Date: Wed Dec 5 08:51:25 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday In-Reply-To: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> Jim Wells, President wrote: > A reminder to all the computer show is on Saturday at the Live Oak Civic Center. > > See you there! > > Jim > Is this a latest/greatest everything, or a Linux only show? If the former, will there be displays or areas within the show for Linux systems and apps? Cheers! Ed From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Wed Dec 5 10:06:56 2007 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Wed Dec 5 10:06:58 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: <414927.73539.qm@web55612.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- Ed wrote: > Is this a latest/greatest everything, or a Linux > only show? If the > former, will there be displays or areas within the > show for Linux > systems and apps? its mostly windows stuff and used/junk PC's. New items can be bought also. SATLUG is there to convert people from the dark side. -Alex ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From wmail at wricomp.com Wed Dec 5 12:58:56 2007 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Wed Dec 5 12:58:59 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday In-Reply-To: <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:51:18 -0600, Ed wrote: >> >Is this a latest/greatest everything, or a Linux only show? If the >former, will there be displays or areas within the show for Linux >systems and apps? To expand on the other replies, it's not a show like the new auto, boat or RV shows downtown. It's a bazaar of new and used gear dealers plus two of the local user groups, Alamo PC and SATLUG. There is a pretty good used book selection and a media vendor or two that has just about every flavor of CD or DVD on hand. See www.pcshows.com for the usual marketing fun and a coupon for discount admission. SATLUG is there to demo Linux in a variety of ways and to talk to the people who come by. We have a few handouts that describe the benefits of Linux and SATLUG and invite people to join this list. We'd love to see you there! --Don -- A computer is a hole in your desk you pour money into. From phnx.lists at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 13:03:06 2007 From: phnx.lists at gmail.com (phn1x) Date: Wed Dec 5 13:03:09 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: <7c60f31a0712051103g2a7c324eia35637feda1abcb9@mail.gmail.com> "SATLUG is there to demo Linux in a variety of ways and to talk to the people who come by. We have a few handouts that describe the benefits of Linux and SATLUG and invite people to join this list." If you guys put on white shirts with ties and start riding bikes around to neighborhoods I'm going to start getting concerned Why are the computer shows always in town whenever I don't have money :( On Dec 5, 2007 12:58 PM, Don Wright wrote: > On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:51:18 -0600, Ed wrote: > >> > >Is this a latest/greatest everything, or a Linux only show? If the > >former, will there be displays or areas within the show for Linux > >systems and apps? > > To expand on the other replies, it's not a show like the new auto, boat > or RV shows downtown. It's a bazaar of new and used gear dealers plus > two of the local user groups, Alamo PC and SATLUG. There is a pretty > good used book selection and a media vendor or two that has just about > every flavor of CD or DVD on hand. See www.pcshows.com for the usual > marketing fun and a coupon for discount admission. > > SATLUG is there to demo Linux in a variety of ways and to talk to the > people who come by. We have a few handouts that describe the benefits of > Linux and SATLUG and invite people to join this list. We'd love to see > you there! --Don > > > -- > A computer is a hole in your desk you pour money into. > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From wmail at wricomp.com Wed Dec 5 13:29:51 2007 From: wmail at wricomp.com (Don Wright) Date: Wed Dec 5 13:29:53 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Computer Show on Saturday In-Reply-To: <7c60f31a0712051103g2a7c324eia35637feda1abcb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0712050605g5f81dd30g9b4294dab8d70881@mail.gmail.com> <4756BAE6.3000707@peoplepc.com> <7c60f31a0712051103g2a7c324eia35637feda1abcb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:03:06 -0600, phn1x wrote: >"SATLUG is there to demo Linux in a variety of ways and to talk to the >people who come by. We have a few handouts that describe the benefits of >Linux and SATLUG and invite people to join this list." > >If you guys put on white shirts with ties and start riding bikes around to >neighborhoods I'm going to start getting concerned No ties, club shirts in a variety of colors with SalsaTux, our mascot, and nobody has suggested going door-to-door yet. We do have some CDs and DVDs for a nominal suggested donation... >Why are the computer shows always in town whenever I don't have money :( Did you spend it all foolishly on food, rent and utilities? Get your priorities straight and save up for the next one, January 19, 2008. --Don -- MS Windows: The great crippler of young computers. From dubose at texas.net Wed Dec 5 13:42:24 2007 From: dubose at texas.net (Walt DuBose) Date: Wed Dec 5 13:43:27 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Need Touchtone Phones In-Reply-To: <128bff2f0712041444o48bb3e0enecbb08ab6d9395e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4748CE7D.5020102@texas.net> <4748CFD5.8050901@texas.net> <24cb34e0711281806k48059bdcp9bab5d422f362a24@mail.gmail.com> <474E296E.9020608@texas.net> <128bff2f0712041444o48bb3e0enecbb08ab6d9395e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4756FF20.90402@texas.net> Zeb This is the type I am looking for... http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbill/sets/72057594139972399/ Only it doesn't have to be in Red...white, black, etc. are Ok but red ones also. Thanks for you assistance. Vinny got one for me so I am still looking for 3 or 4 more. Now that I've spilled my intent on their use, I've had three other organizations wanting me to build systems for them. This is a little expansion of the system that Vinny once built. Walt Zeb Fletcher wrote: > Not sure if this is what your looking for > http://cgi.ebay.com/Qty-of-2-Panasonic-3-Line-Phones-with-Speaker-phone_W0QQitemZ120191371020QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120191371020 > > It is from the Ennes School district in Austin > > On Nov 28, 2007 8:52 PM, Walt DuBose wrote: > > >>Vinny Huckaba wrote: >> >>>I have an old itt/sbc touchtone phone you can have. >>>http://p.office1000.com/vp4/ITT2500VBRIT5.jpg >>> >> >>Super...I'll be intouch >> >> >>>I setup a similar system back in the early 90's for our VFD/EMS. I used >> >>a >> >>>televideo 955 terminal and a hayes 2400 bps external modem connected to >> >>a >> >>>low band radio 37.180mhz and a VHF 155.340 so that the S.O. could dial >> >>in >> >>>and page us via our handheld units with tone coded squelch. They would >> >>dial >> >>>into the system, the modem would answer, then key up the transmitter, >> >>the SO >> >>>would enter the 4 digit code, then speak the message. The 955 terminal >> >>was >> >>>used to page, send messages and program the modem. >>> >> >>More or less the same idea but codes will be input via the TTPad with two >>small >>speakers in the sides of the phone instrument. This will be three line >>control...two for duplex audio and one line to ground for push to talk. >> >>The system will also eventually interface to a Linux PBX and go out via >>VOIP >>over longer distances than I have wire. :-) >> >> >> >>>I tinkered with switching to 10 sec xmit and 10sec recv so that you >> >>would >> >>>have half duplex comm. My setup was for proof of concept. We ran it >> >>for >> >>>couple of years until the county decided to upgrade their repeater. The >>>system is probably still sitting in the courthouse collecting dust.. >>> >> >>Well I'm sure that the idea is still viable when cellphone do not work or >>in an >>area where there is no CP service. >> >> >>>I later installed a radio telephone interconnect for another Fire Dept, >> >>that >> >>>is still in use today as a backup system. >>> >>>All the schematics and documentation are somewhere in the attic... >>> >> >>I know the feeling. >> >> >>>--Vinny >> >>Txn and CULater. >> >>Walt >> >> >>> >>>On 11/24/07, Walt DuBose wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Oh, I also failed to mention that I have a full 8092.11b link to use but >>>>my WAP >>>>has died. >>>> >>>>I am hoping to be able to eventually use multiline PBX software on both >>>>ends so >>>>I can run the entire control over WiFi. >>>> >>>>I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>>> >>>>Best Regards to All from Walt/ARS K5YFW...hope to see you in December. >>>> >>>>Walt DuBose wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am in need of 3 or 4 of the original AT&T/SWBell touchtone phones for >>>>>a command and control system I am building. The Touchtone pad can be >>>>>missing from two of the phones. If the phones are multiline phones, >> >>all >> >>>>>the better. >>>>> >>>>>The idea is to build a remote command and control function that will >>>>>work via telephone lines over a distance of a mile but more practicaly >>>>>as far as the length of 8 pair cable I can get will work. >>>>> >>>>>The system will be able to control one of the new ICOM dualband radios >>>>>that allow for full radio control via touchtone. Another telephone >> >>will >> >>>>>be used to control an HF Rig. The third and fourth phones will be able >>>>>to control LMR radios. >>>>> >>>>>Also, the 3rd or 4th phones will act as and intercoms between the >> >>remote >> >>>>>and communications unit. >>>>> >>>>>I would like to get some of the handsets that had PTT switches in them >>>>>but if I can't, I can add micro-switches to the handsets. >> >>(Hummmm...does >> >>>>>anyone have a red phone :-) ) Color of the phone doesn't matter. >>>>> >>>>>This is basically what I worked on back in the early 60's in commercial >>>>>2-way radio and later in the early 80's in the Air Force Reserve. >>>>> >>>>>While on a technical subject...I hope some of you have or will consider >>>>>getting phone patches connected to your HF rigs...this is a GREAT way >> >>to >> >>>>>relay voice traffic from a deployed area back to a operations center. >>>>> >>>>>I'd appreciate any assistance that you can provide. >>>>> >>>>>Please contact me at k5yfw(at)arrl.net or dubose(at)texas.net >>>>> >>>>>Thanks and 73, >>>>> >>>>>In His Love and Care, >>>>> >>>>>Walt/K5YFW >>>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SATLUG mailing list >>>>SATLUG@satlug.org >>>>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >>>>Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >>>> >> >>-- >>_______________________________________________ >>SATLUG mailing list >>SATLUG@satlug.org >>http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >>Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >> From dubose at texas.net Wed Dec 5 14:17:34 2007 From: dubose at texas.net (Walt DuBose) Date: Wed Dec 5 14:18:38 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Dual Boot on Acer Aspire Message-ID: <4757075E.7090205@texas.net> I have found that the Ubuntu LiveCD (6.x) loads nicely on my new Acer Aspire. The Aspire has an "C" drive of 90 GB with MS on it and a "D" Drive (named Data) with 70 GB formatted. I would like to load Ubuntu on the 70 GB part. now and eventually reformat the "C" drive with MS on it for Linux. Any experienced HowTo information would be appreciated. Thanks, Walt From pixelnate at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 14:49:16 2007 From: pixelnate at gmail.com (pixelnate) Date: Wed Dec 5 14:49:23 2007 Subject: [SATLUG] Dual Boot on Acer Aspire In-Reply-To: <4757075E.7090205@texas.net> References: <4757075E.7090205@texas.net> Message-ID: <47570ECC.7010302@gmail.com> Walt DuBose wrote: > I have found that the Ubuntu LiveCD (6.x) loads nicely on my new Acer >