[SATLUG] Pokes at Microsoft (off Topic)

Fri Mar 2 23:17:18 CST 2007

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Herb wrote:
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> John Hammer wrote:
>> on 03/02/2007 03:56 PM Robert J Hewitt said the following:
>>> You know it seems to me that everyone including myself seems to take
>>> shots
>>> at Microsoft a lot.  But in true defense to the novice computer user
>>> like my
>>> neighbor daughter, the nice family just up the street and even my
>>> wife, all
>>> who don't want to learn Linux. (God forbid) but there are a lot of
>>> people
> Yeah I can say for me.
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>>>              Robert
>>>                 Hewittrh_78244 at grandecom.net
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>> Robert--
>>
>> Just what do you mean when you say you "don't want to learn Linux"?
>> I've had several people tell me that and I've never understood what
>> they mean.
> Well as a newbie trying to install Linux to replace MS is the most
> frustrating experience. I mean trying to dig info out being directed to
> code pages that are meaningless to Joe/Jane Sixpak is really dumb. The
> question is what time is it not how to design a better clock
>>
>> With Microsoft Windows there is basically learning the applications
>> one uses in the course of being at the computer, Outlook, Word, some
>> games, perhaps a few others. Rarely do you have to know how Windows
>> works. In fact, you are strongly discouraged from knowing how the
>> behind-the-scenes activities are done.
> Yes
>>
>> With Linux, you can learn how it works if you want to but you don't
>> have to any more than with Windows. You can use the same types of
>> programs, plus you have a lot more choices among those programs. You
>> can decide the level of involvement you are comfortable with.
> yes
>>
>> The basic difference as I see it is that Microsoft makes the choices
>> for you and Linux will give you defaults that you can override if you
>> so choose.
> yes
> 
> If you read this far let me entertain you for just a bit
> 
> I have FC-6 installed and operating but I am trying to learn a bit of
> the Linux differences from using WIN3.0 to ME where I stopped, Ya know
> it is a question of what I need. Don't you agree?

Honestly, I don't think FC-6 is the most friendly distribution for "just
having it work" I'd go with ubuntu for something like that. FC-6 is more
like win2k compared to xp. XP has a lot more polish. It's much more
friendly.

> 
> I have no desire to be a programmer, I want to just devour the wonderful
> plate of goodies that you artist are able to paint on to our hooked
> together lifescape  for us other artist to enjoy??
> 
> .... but speak to me with words that I understand .... please ...
> 
> At this moment I have benefited greatly from your help ... so thanks ...
> big thanks ... but ....
> 
> Right now I would love to connect up with my modem to my IP ..... right
> now let me tell you that I am standing in the cool FC-6 Gnone desktop
> and I have menus and I see nothing anywhere that even looks like the
> dialer that I use to connest with ... Ya know?
> 
> I have followed your advice and got here but see most are not interested
> as I, most would have given up way long back. Damn, I hate being
> critical over free things but to answer with a line of code or a URL
> that has 100 paages is simply not helpful and even can cause the door to
> be closed should be considered.... well anyway that is how I see it

http://www.debianadmin.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html

That looks like a single page for me. However it's a different
distribution. For what you want to do I'd reccomend using ubuntu.
Installation and update is painless. You don't have to do anything. You
just use the box. That is what you're looking for, I believe. And I
think there's no better place to find it than with ubuntu.

> 
> I mean I have the modem installed and the sys sees it ok I also see that
> Generic modem driver has been installed but I have no idea what to do
> next??? launching th browser does not ask for the ok to connect as I
> would expect in NSWinX. If somehow a cross reference could be worked out
> to help the converter would be just precious.
> I think this is what holds thousands of people every day from converting
> to Linux ... I can see where I am headed only because of my prior
> experience and JJ-Sixer simply cannot ... the choice is saying F...it.
> dude, I going.
> 

It just needs more looking. Finding the right distribution for you :)

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David Kowis

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SourceMage GNU/Linux

Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to
find easier ways to do something.
  - Robert Heinlein
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