[SATLUG] OT: Walmart Selling Linux PCs/ Right-Left paradigm

Fri Nov 2 12:48:24 CDT 2007

It was me...
I said that Wal-Mart don't get my money cause of their right-wing support.
I don't think we can ALWAYS keep politics out.
And just for fun...
I , for one, DO credit Al Gore with helping to "create the initiatives" that
led the Internet as we know it.
As Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn (inventors of TCP/IP) said

"As the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core
protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP
Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No
other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution
over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a
straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the
United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We
don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he
"invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that
while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and
beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is
that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most
people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. As far
back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement
of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the
potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just
improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten,
now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept"

Had it been left up to Republicans who don't like funding research that they
don't see  IMMEDIATE or MILITARY benefits... well.. many of us wouldn't have
Information technology jobs.

So yeah... Sometimes it is just FINE to talk about politics.

On 11/2/07, Ernest De Leon <edeleonjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Enrique,
>
> That's perfectly fine, and I agree with you to an extent, but remember
> that
> I wasn't the one who diverted to the political side of the Walmart
> issue.  I
> think you should look further back in the thread to see where it started.
> In addition, your comment should be addressed to everyone who participated
> in this thread after it was diverted, not one individual.
>
> Ernest
>
> On 11/2/07, Enrique Sanchez Vela <esanchezvela at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ernest,
> >
> > I respect everbodys point of view and somehow share
> > yours, but for environmental purposes, lets keep
> > politics and religion outside the list, the emails get
> > replicated and stored for a long time, wasting
> > valuable resources and make little or no difference.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Enrique.
> >
> >
> > --- Ernest De Leon <edeleonjr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I drive a hybrid and I don't drive it for
> > > environmental reasons at all.  I
> > > drive it because it had the most tech gadgets
> > > crammed into it of any other
> > > semi-luxury car.  I also drive it because I now can
> > > drive twice as long
> > > without refueling.  My only regret is that I didn't
> > > wait a few months more
> > > and get the Lexus version instead of the Camry.
> > >
> > > And about Ron Paul...please understand that what
> > > Bush and Co. deem as
> > > republican is not republican at all.  Ron Paul is a
> > > *REAL* republican.  I
> > > invite everyone to search for "republican
> > > government" to get a better
> > > understanding of what a republican really is.  Then
> > > you might realize that
> > > for Bush and Co. to call themselves republicans is
> > > the most contorted skewed
> > > and down right criminal thing I have ever heard.
> > > Remember that Abraham
> > > Lincoln, who abolished slavery, was the first
> > > republican president.  On a
> > > scale with Lincoln and Hitler on opposing ends, I
> > > would not put bush on the
> > > Lincoln half to say the least.
> > >
> > > E
> > >
> > > On 11/2/07, Brian Lewis <astro at astr0.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Or Drive a hybrid car :P
> > > >
> > > > Ever see that southpark with al gore on it trying
> > > to hunt manbearbig?
> > > >
> > > > LOL!
> > > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, pixelnate wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brian Lewis wrote:
> > > > >>  Let me re-dig the articles I was reading with
> > > the ron paul/regan/bush
> > > > >>  thing.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  What America really needs is President Gore :)
> > > > >>
> > > > > There is nothing that can be said that would
> > > sway me in that direction.
> > > > Most
> > > > > of what was in his documentary was erroneous
> > > information passed off as
> > > > facts.
> > > > > CO2 is not a problem in any way shape or form.
> > > Bottom line, if people
> > > > are
> > > > > worried about CO2, plant more trees. Problem
> > > solved.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ Nate
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Brian Lewis
> > > > Sent using PINE 4.64
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