[SATLUG] OT: Walmart Selling Linux PCs/ Right-Left paradigm

[Charles Hogan]

With those beliefs, I would strongly suggest that you look at Hillary's 
voting record in the senate before casting your ballot.

Brian Lewis wrote:
> I believe we don't need a guest worker program.
> 
> I also believe that we shouldn't allow illegal immigrants to become 
> citizens just because somebody illegally crossed the boarder and spit 
> the kid out us soil.
> 
> I also believe fluent ENGLISH should be a REQUIREMENT (and not just a 
> 'basic understanding',) for obtaining citizenship. You want to live in 
> another country? Speak the language that 99% of the country speaks.
> 
> If you're caught here illegally, you are permanently denied citizenship, 
> if we catch you again, you're tagged somehow to prevent you from 
> entering our country again.
> 
> Employees who hire illegals should be fined into the group and/or 
> shutdown. There are laws in place for a reason.
> 
> I am also against that BS "health insurance for all children".
> 
> It's the parents job to provide insurance for their children until 
> they're 18. I have never seen a job that does not provide insurance.
> 
> Illegals should not be allowed to acquire welfare and/or section 8.
> 
> Anybody found harboring illegals that is receiving Govt Assistance is 
> automatically cut off and denied the luxury of assistance from that day on.
> 
> I also believe Govt assistance should be given for a max of 1 year. If 
> you can't get your shit together within 1 year of getting an 
> "affordable" place to live and free money for food and toiletry's, you 
> are not trying hard enough.
> 
> Here is a very novel idea:
> 
> All immigrants who wish to obtain citizenship are required to spend 4 
> years in our armed forces. Fight for the country you want to live in, 
> and you are allowed to stay.
> 
> If you're receiving welfare/section8/assistance, and you are found 
> wearing gold chains, driving an expensive car, squandering your money, 
> you are cut off from any type of assistance for life. This includes your 
> Tax Refund, until you've paid back all the money the govt invested in 
> trying to help you get your life together.
> 
> I would do away with bias charities, etc. Such as the United Negro 
> College Fund. If I started The United Whitey College Fund, I'd be 
> labeled a racist, why should it be any different for anyone else? 
> Education is education. One year all the white kids get the money 
> because they got better grades and had better scores? too bad. Next year 
> black kids get it because of the same? too bad. Equality should never be 
> measured by the color of ones skin, especially when it comes to a free 
> college education. It should be measured by what is in ones head. To the 
> victor go the spoils, as one says.
> 
> On the topic of education, another thing, I'd try to enact some type of 
> law or something that basically states if an athlete gets a sports 
> scholarship, they should deserve it. That means no more majoring in 
> basket weaving or "sports team management". They would be required to 
> get a real degree, so if they get hurt, they aren't a burden to society.
> 
> Sorry for the rant, just wanted to get that stuff out :P
> 
> -B
> 
>  On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Charles Hogan wrote:
> 
>> Hillary?!?
>> http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=WNY99268
>>
>> Votes against denying legal status to illegal immigrants who commit 
>> violent crimes against our citizens, and more importantly, our 
>> children, 
>> (http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=13435&can_id=55463) 
>>
>>
>> Votes to reduce the number of LEGAL guest workers.
>> (http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=13431&can_id=55463) 
>>
>>
>> Just a couple of the many reasons that I would never vote for her.
>>
>> IMHO the best way to address the problems in government is to vote out 
>> the incumbents, remind the pols who they are working for.
>>
>> Brian Lewis wrote:
>>>  I mean proof and sources cited saying Hillery will definable do the
>>>  "amero", the NAU, etc. You can't just claim something fact when it's
>>>  fiction. I'm keeping up with the election too, as I like to stay 
>>> informed.
>>>  I have no political party affiliation. In 2000 I voted for Gore, 
>>> last year
>>>  for TeX. Gov, I voted for Kinky! :P
>>>
>>>  I'm an unbiased, equal opportunity political party hater, however, 
>>> with RN
>>>  Paule being a *REGISTERED REPUBLICAN*, I highly doubt that I can 
>>> find it
>>>  in me to (at least for this coming election), give my vote to 
>>> someone who
>>>  is affiliated in any way-shape-form of Bush. He has turned these great
>>>  United States of America into a big joke, and when you're in the 
>>> military
>>>  and your whole family is scared for you on a daily basis because they
>>>  don't want to lose you to the possibility of getting sent over to the
>>>  sandbox to support a made up war by our suppose commander and chief, 
>>> you
>>>  tend to lose the faith quickly.
>>>
>>>  Vote Ron Paul if you want to vote for yet another registered 
>>> republican.
>>>
>>>  As of this very moment, I'm voting Hillary. We're ready for a female
>>>  president. If Gore were to run, he would get my vote, likewise, any 
>>> other
>>>  candidate that actually stands out, and doesn't play the "politics as
>>>  usual" game, will take my vote away from Hillary. From what I've seen,
>>>  heard, and read on Ron Paul, he is nothing more than another 
>>> polition, who
>>>  had a good hand in getting Regan elected, and whom is *JUST* a 
>>> politician.
>>>
>>>  -Brian
>>>
>>>  On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, pixelnate wrote:
>>>
>>> >  Brian Lewis wrote:
>>> > >   Nate:
>>> > > > >  Could you please cite some *RELIABLE* sources to back your 
>>> agreement > >  up.
>>> > > > >   On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, pixelnate wrote:
>>> > >  History of the Fed:
>>> > http:  //news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1095269452.php
>>> > http:  //www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
>>> > >  And in a very informative documentary called "Money Masters" on 
>>> Google >  video that covers the Fed and IRS:
>>> >  http://tinyurl.com/28vy2t
>>> > >  And another, by Aaron Ruso, called "America: Freedom to Fascism":
>>> >  http://tinyurl.com/yqohjz
>>> > >  That is just the tip of the iceberg.
>>> > > > ~  Nate
>>> > > > > > >   Ernest De Leon wrote:
>>> > > > >    Funny thing about right wing and left wing is that they're 
>>> both
>>> > > > >    evil....It's
>>> > > > >    all about Ron Paul...down with the IRS and long live the > 
>>> > > >  Constitution!
>>> > > > >   You hit it right on the money (so to speak), Ernest. The > 
>>> >  right-left >  paradigm is just a Hegelian dialectic set up to get 
>>> us > >  to believe that >  there are only two solutions, this way or 
>>> that way. > >  The reality is that >  both sides are funded by the 
>>> same money, that > >  is why nothing ever >  changes and nothing good 
>>> ever comes out of > >  Washington. While I don't >  have a solution 
>>> for all the World's > >  problems, I can tell you that if you >  
>>> follow the money trail you > >  will find out who is creating them. 
>>> Get rid >  of them and you will be > >  three steps closer to solving 
>>> the World's >  problems.
>>> > > > >   As far as the IRS goes, there is no law that explicitly 
>>> states > >  that the >  people of this country have to pay taxes on 
>>> their labor. > >  Look it up, it >  doesn't exist. The federal 
>>> government uses their > >  SWAT, FBI, Police thugs >  to enforce a 
>>> law that never existed. While > >  you're searching for the law, >  
>>> also check out the fact that the > >  Federal Reserve Bank isn't 
>>> owned by the >  federal government either. > >  If you look in the 
>>> phone book it doesn't >  appear in the government > >  pages because 
>>> it is privately owned by European >  banking interests.
>>> > > > >   Yes, Ron Paul is our only hope of saving this Republic. If 
>>> > >  Hilary "wins" >  the election we are in a world of hurt. The 
>>> North > >  American Union will >  surely be properly instituted, the 
>>> Amero will > >  be our currency, we will >  be at war with Iran, and 
>>> they might even > >  start throwing people into the >  regional Fema 
>>> concentration camps > >  that have been set up around the >  country 
>>> (look it up if you don't > >  believe me). Things will indeed be dire 
>>> >  if this current dynasty is > >  allowed to continue. This may be 
>>> our last >  chance at a relatively > >  free election. If we don't 
>>> put Ron Paul in office >  we have no hope > >  of holding on to these 
>>> United States of America.
>>> > > > > > ~   Nate
>>> > > > > > > >
>>>
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