[SATLUG] OT: Walmart Selling Linux PCs/ Right-Left paradigm

[Wayne Walker]

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

It essentially says that Gore found it interesting enough to stay
apprised of it's growth.

That's all.

On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 03:31:41PM -0500, Hector Bojorquez wrote:
> Sorry Al.. but unless you were directly involved in the intricacies of how
> things were funded and/or were involved in the engineering and coding in
> those think-tanks (like Cerf and Kahn were).. I just don't see how your
> opinion on the matter can trump their direct involvement...unless it's just
> political spite
> On Nov 3, 2007 2:49 PM, Al Castanoli <afcasta at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> >  On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:48 -0500, Hector Bojorquez wrote:
> > > It was me...
> > > I said that Wal-Mart don't get my money cause of their right-wing
> > support.
> > > I don't think we can ALWAYS keep politics out.
> > > And just for fun...
> > > I , for one, DO credit Al Gore with helping to "create the initiatives"
> > that
> > > led the Internet as we know it.
> > > As Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn (inventors of TCP/IP) said
> > >
> > > "As the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core
> > > protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP
> > > Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No
> > > other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater
> > contribution
> > > over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a
> > > straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in
> > the
> > > United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
> > We
> > > don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he
> > > "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds
> > that
> > > while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and
> > > beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter
> > is
> > > that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most
> > > people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. As
> > far
> > > back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
> > > telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
> > improvement
> > > of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp
> > the
> > > potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just
> > > improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
> > forgotten,
> > > now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept"
> > >
> > > Had it been left up to Republicans who don't like funding research that
> > they
> > > don't see  IMMEDIATE or MILITARY benefits... well.. many of us wouldn't
> > have
> > > Information technology jobs.
> > >
> > > So yeah... Sometimes it is just FINE to talk about politics.
> >
> > I guess historical corrections in the media have worked... Much of the
> > early work on the current Internet were done on milnet.  The move from
> > the standard of NCP to TCP/IP was only possible at first because of
> > government funding early development on the IMP.  Then, before the
> > InterNIC was farmed out to Network Solutions, one of the greatest
> > contributors in terms of funding and full time computer scientists and
> > network engineers was General Atomics (part of what the media calls the
> > military industrial complex). General Atomics stepped away from the
> > InterNIC because of media scrutiny of their operations.  Without General
> > Atomic's support, the NSF could no longer afford to administer it, and
> > contracted .com and .net domains out to Network Solutions.  If you think
> > that was an improvement over the original InterNIC, I guess you weren't
> > managing domains back then and having to deal with what we
> > affectionately termed notwork solutions.
> >
> > The folks I worked for when milnet was folded into the Internet were a
> > bunch of egghead scientists and engineers, and they formed the original
> > Internet Engineering Task Force. We didn't see many politicians on the
> > operations room floor at the time.
> >
> > Given all the scientific inaccuracies in "An Inconvenient Truth", it
> > appears the Nobel prize was given for political reasons more than for
> > having actually accomplished anything.
> >
> > I respect Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, but I think they're giving too much
> > credit to Gore.
> >
> > Al Castanoli
> >
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