[SATLUG] need help...everything is popping up Linux!

[Al Castanoli]

I took a Solaris / Linux gig awhile back, knowing that the enterprise
was using the End-Of-Lifed PCNet at several distant nodes.  The most
logical replacement was Samba, and it was a lot easier to manage Samba
than PCNet from afar.  Do I care what the users at these distant nodes
are using on their desktops?  Does it matter?  I walked into the job
knowing I'd be running UNIX and Linux servers and folks at the distant
nodes would be using some sort of workstation on their desktop that I
didn't have to maintain - all I'm taking care of is their connectivity
and the security of the network shares they need to access, and keeping
the servers online, patched, and in compliance with local security
standards.

I've helped one of the distant nodes set up their own Samba shares on
Mac OS X, and the lead tech there's been replacing PCs with Macs where
he can. I'm all for that, but to presume our PHd's would all dump the
windows PCs they are used to just because there's something arguably
better available invokes the condescending UNIX chap of yore.

Al [top posting to follow Hector] Castanoli

On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 18:37 -0500, Hector Bojorquez wrote:
> Why is that an issue?  I personally would never hire someone who was 100%
> linux and nothing else.  I've worked with people like that ... and let's
> just say... it's embarassing when they can't even add a printer on a
> Microsoft machine... This is a ridiculous argument... it's like being
> autistic if we can't get along with the "outside" world...
> 
> <<<include mention of Windows as a key component of their Linux jobs,
> 
> On 8/31/07, Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Except that the Rackspace guys are at least smart enough to not
> > include mention of Windows as a key component of their Linux jobs, and
> > they don't subscribe to the list and then start spamming it and all
> > the others in a hundred mile radius within minutes of their
> > subscription.
> >
> > She spammed two different CTLUG lists, one of which was clearly
> > inappropriate, and the main AustinLUG list, which is also
> > inappropriate since ALG has a specific -jobs sublist.
> >
> > The only general list that she hit that was at least moderately on-
> > topic was the SATLUG list. Do you honestly think that a spammer should
> > get a free ride just because they accidentally manage to hit a target
> > once in a while?
> >
> > --
> > Brad Knowles <brad at shub-Internet.org>
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, "Greg Willden" <gwillden at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 8/29/07, Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:
> > >> On 8/29/07, Shawn Bender wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> There is a difference between a spammer and a recruiter. If she is
> > >>> posting
> > >>> on the lugs in order to hire one of us , that is not spam.
> > >>
> > >> Spam is defined by behaviour, not content.  Even if the content is
> > >> something you do actually want to see, it can still qualify as spam.
> > >
> > >
> > > The term Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) is a more precise one to
> > > describe spam.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Just because the other billion people on the planet didn't want to
> > >> see that message but were not given the choice, but you did want to
> > >> see that message, is not adequate justification for spamming us all.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think that makes any difference in this case.
> > > Many of us didn't want to see your whining email but we were still
> > > forced to.  :-)
> > > Just because *you* didn't want to get that email doesn't mean it is
> > > automatically spam.
> > >
> > > It was obvious to me that she was a recruiter.  No biggie.  At least
> > > she was looking for Linux experience.  Sounds on-topic for this list
> > > to me.  At lot more on-topic than some discussions I've seen.
> > >
> > > I don't see that much difference between Rackspace or other people
> > > sending out invitations to apply for Linux jobs and what she did.
> > >
> > > Let's all just lighten up and try to be polite.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Greg
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