[SATLUG] OFF TOPIC: "Say No to Photo-ID" for Cred Card purchases...

Ernest De Leon edeleonjr at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 18:04:56 CST 2008


I'm all about tinfoil hats....lets talk diskless PCs booting off of
read-only file systems (CD/DVD) and encrypted attached storage?

On Jan 31, 2008 9:18 PM, <rsuberg at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> I work at a company where only a few credit cards exist.  All of the
> cards say "check ID", and my name is not on a one of them.  I have only
> been asked for ID once, didn't match, and the place I was at at first
> said they would not take the card, but because I am a returning
> customer there, she ran it as a "phone-in" order and let the card thru.
>
> Twice, I took the same card out of state for some training, went thru
> the hastle of getting the ID of the card name copied (on a copier) on
> company letterhead with my id, along with a letter stating I had
> authorization to use the card also on company letterhead.  For two days
> each trip, I used the card without being asked for any ID or having
> questions raised.
>
> I have seen where "check ID" is suggested to be written on the sigature
> block of a card, but have not seen it make a difference.
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Kowis <dkowis at shlrm.org>
> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OFF TOPIC: "Say No to Photo-ID" for Cred Card
>        purchases...
> To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug at satlug.org>
> Cc: xcssa at xcssa.org
>
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> > Tom Weeks wrote:
> > > Sorry for the off topic post.. But I don't know how many times
> > now I've
> > > been "required" to show a photo ID when using my CC.. but I'm
> > really getting
> > > sick of it.  Your self validating signature (in person and on
> > back of the
> > > card) is all that is required legally by both Visa and Master
> > Card*
> > >
> > > Has anyone else had problems bucking this?
> > >
> > > To have my civil liberty of self validation stolen by the state
> > government and
> > > local vendors is simply not something that I'm willing to give up...
> > >
> > > Tweeks
> > > * See Visa and MC rules around this both referenced here
> > > http://www.wlindley.com/archives/28
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. It's just a second form of
> > verifyingthat your Credit card really is your credit card. It's
> > not like they're
> > logging it or taking anything down. They're just using a second
> > form of
> > identification. I think it's fully within the rights of the
> > company to
> > impose further restrictions on how they do business. Just like the
> > rightto carry weaponry. If you're carrying and the company asks
> > you to leave,
> > you must comply.
> >
> > I don't think this is a violation of civil liberties in any way...
> > They're simply trying to protect themselves and you by not relying
> > on an
> > easily forge able signature. Besides that, they'd have to be good at
> > comparing signatures. I don't know about you, but my signature varies
> > pretty well. It would probably take a trained eye to notice the right
> > parts. Your average schmo running the cash register isn't going to be
> > able to do so. However, if you were to show them your drivers license,
> > which are easily recognizable. They can easily match the name on the
> > card with the name on the DL and you with the picture.
> >
> > - --
> > David Kowis
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