[SATLUG] Man arrested for copying CD's

[Brian Lewis]

I dont use ubuntu

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On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:51 PM, "John Chalinder" <argiod at bresnan.net> wrote:

> Well, that may be true about the tin foil hat. But, before you call  
> me paranoid, tell me again why you are using Ubuntu instead of  
> Microslop? Also, consider the following:
>
> I see a lot of talk here regarding back doors in MS's OS. And, while  
> I don't think it's economically feasible to keep track of every  
> computer in the country/world, it still would not surprise me to  
> find out that somebody has figured out a way to hook up enough Cray  
> supercomputers with the software to do so. And the exorbitant cost  
> is not an issue; it would simply be taken from black ops money, and  
> none would be the wiser.
>
> I remember a few years ago hearing about the Echelon program that  
> listened to international (and post 9/11, domestic) phone calls and  
> at detecting certain 'key words' would record the conversation for  
> later analysis by the NSA. So, yes, I'll keep that tin foil hat, and  
> my survival gear handy.
>
> You may recognize this quote from the Lutheran anti-Nazi activist,  
> who formed a resistance movement and was then arrested and spent  
> years in prison for his beliefs:
>
> “First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out becaus 
> e I was not a socialist.
> "Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out  
> because I was not a trade unionist.
> "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was  
> not a Jew. "Then they came for me, and there was no one left to  
> speak for me.”
>
> I've found an updated paraphrase of this:
>
> They came for the Muslims, and I Didn't Speak Up
> January 4, 2003.
>
> By Stephen Rohde
> Forum Column (from the Daily Journal)
> (Author's Note: The USA Patriot Act became law a little over one  
> year ago.)
> (Editor's Note: This New Year let us remember freedom in America as  
> it was and think about what the loss of that freedom means to us  
> all. We, each and everyone of us, have a duty to America to speak up  
> whenever and where ever our Freedom is taken or diminished.)
>
> "First they came for the Muslims, and I didn't speak up because I  
> wasn't a Muslim.
>
> "Then they came for the immigrants, detaining them indefinitely  
> solely on the certification of the attorney general, and I didn't  
> speak up because I wasn't an immigrant.
>
> "Then they came to eavesdrop on suspects consulting with their  
> attorneys, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a suspect.
>
> "Then they came to prosecute non citizens before secret military  
> commissions, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a non-citizen
>
> "Then they came to enter homes and offices for unannounced, sneak  
> and peak searches, and I didn't speak up because I had nothing to  
> hide.
>
> "Then they came to reinstate Cointelpro and resume the infiltration  
> and surveillance of domestic religious and political groups, and I  
> didn't speak up because I no longer participated in any groups.
>
> "Then they came to arrest American citizens and hold them  
> indefinitely without any charges and without access to lawyers, and  
> I didn't speak up because I would never be arrested.
>
> "Then they came to institute TIPS Terrorism Information and  
> Prevention System recruiting citizens to spy on other citizens and I  
> didn't speak up because I was afraid.
>
> "Then they came for anyone who objected to government policy because  
> it only aided the terrorists and gave ammunition to America's  
> enemies, and I didn't speak up because I didn't speak up.
>
> "Then they came for me, and by that time, no one was left to speak  
> up."
>
> So, where is the line between paranoia and valid concern?
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:31:16 -0600
> Brian Lewis <astro at astr0.org> wrote:
>> I think someone needs to put their tin foil hat back on.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jan 1, 2008, at 6:19 PM, "John Chalinder" <argiod at bresnan.net>  
>> wrote:
>>> I would not be the least surprised if some three letter agency  
>>> had  backdoors into ALL computer systems, regardless of the OS.  
>>> But,  that's just my opinion; I could be wrong....          Wait!  
>>> Who are  those men in expensive gray suits and shiny black shoes  
>>> doing at my  door?!!!       Oh No!!! They're coming to take me  
>>> away....
>>>
>>> :P
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