[SATLUG] Man arrested for copying his own CD's

Ernest De Leon edeleonjr at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 21:58:25 CST 2008


That's correct Herb.  This is the reason that educators may record and show
media that is copyright-ed for the purposes of education.

On Jan 4, 2008 7:21 PM, herb cee <hc at lookcee.com> wrote:

> Brian Lewis wrote:
> > Actually, "fair use" hasn't been determined by a court yet, so we can
> > only speculate as to what fair use is.
>
> Your statement is false according to the .gov site this law is codified
>
> Although fair use was not mentioned in the previous copyright law, the
> doctrine has developed through a substantial number of court decisions
> over the years. This doctrine has been codified in section 107 of the
> copyright law.
> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>
> Would you please site your source?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 4, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Alan Lesmerises <alesmerises at satx.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I had read that one of the RIAA attorneys or executives said during a
> >> deposition (or maybe it was in an actual trial) that they considered
> >> someone who ripped a song from their own CD onto their own hard drive
> >> for their own use as "stealing a song", even though that would
> >> clearly fall under the auspices of fair use.
> >>
> >> So even though the Post story may be technically incorrect about this
> >> specific case, it does seem to reflect the general attitude that the
> >> RIAA has towards people ripping MP3s off their own CDs. I just see it
> >> as today's equivalent of recording an LP onto a cassette so you could
> >> listen to it on your walkman or in your car. The only difference is
> >> that the technology & the medium has changed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Borries Demeler wrote:
> >>> There was an interesting discussion of exactly this topic on NPR's
> >>> 'Talk of the Nation' yesterday - here is the link:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17814972
> >>>
> >>> Abstract:
> >>>
> >>> Talk of the Nation, January 3, 2008 - A recent article in the
> >>> Washington
> >>> Post claims that the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)
> >>> views copying a legally purchased CD onto a computer or an MP3 player
> >>> as unauthorized, and potentially subject to a lawsuit. The RIAA
> >>> contends
> >>> that the Washington Post story is false.
> >>>
> >>> Guests:
> >>>
> >>> Marc Fisher, columnist for the The Washington Post
> >>>
> >>> Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of
> >>> America (RIAA)
> >>>
> >>> This segment echoes what Mark says below about misinterpretation by
> >>> the media.
> >>>
> >>> -borries
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> The media has misinterpreted the case. The issue is not that he
> >>>> ripped a legally purchased CD (which is still legal under the
> >>>> "archival" part of copyright law, no matter what the RIAA says), the
> >>>> issue is that he put those ripped songs into a directory that was
> also
> >>>> used by a P2P app. Since the P2P app "served" the songs out without
> >>>> his knowledge, he is still technically guilty of illegal
> file-sharing.
> >>>>
> >>>> The (MP|RI)AA really loves P2P because it is so easy to go after
> >>>> everyone who downloads a song/movie, since because of the way P2P
> >>>> works, a downloader is also an uploader!
> >>>>
> >>>> I try to only use media that I ripped myself, and don't have anything
> >>>> to do with music sharing.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Mark McCoy
> >>>> - US Army Veteran
> >>>> - Professional Unix Geek
> >>>>
> >>>> Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from
> >>>> revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dared to dissent from
> >>>> accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest
> dissent
> >>>> with disloyal subversion. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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