[SATLUG] this gadget caught my eye!

John Chalinder argiod at bresnan.net
Mon Jan 7 01:50:22 CST 2008

I did not use the abusive language you imply, not would I ever use such 
language in a public forum.

It was not my point to make you out to be a moron. My point was that, just 
because it doesn't have all the neat TIVO features, that it might be possible 
to give it those features; and, that if you were able to do so, we'd all like 
to know how the project turns out.

If you don't have those skills, and can't pull together a group of people who 
can work it out together, then possibly somebody in the Satlug community might 
think it an interesting project and take it on. Either way, the possibility of 
it happening, and the results shared with anyone interested, including 

I'm no electronics/programming genius, either. But if someone, or a group of 
people were to develop this idea, I'd be thrilled to copy it, possibly with 
personal modifications, myself.

I'm sorry if you took it as a personal insult. I try to consider my words 
carefully, and it is never my intent to slight anyone; only to stimulate the 
creative process.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 21:30:03 -0600
  Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:
> I'm not a programmer. That's the fundamental problem with the people  who 
>take the "just fix the freakin code you damn moron" type of  response.
> I am not a moron, but I can't "just fix the freakin code".
> -- 
> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-Internet.org>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 6, 2008, at 7:26 PM, "John Chalinder" <argiod at bresnan.net> wrote:
>> OK, so with the company's invite to modify it; get one and make it  
>> over into the machine you want it to be. Sounds like that's the  
>> whole point to this device. When you're done, share your experience  
>> and design with the rest of us. Tell us how you've improved over  
>> TIVO, and what the cost difference is. This thing reminds me of the  
>> way I cook with prepackaged meals, such as Hamberger Helper: I use  
>> it as a base to cook up what I want. This unit looks like a damn  
>> nice base unit that can be molded into many neat devices. Let's see  
>> what you can come up with.
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:12:13 -0600
>> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:
>>> On 1/6/08, Borries Demeler wrote:
>>>> Here is a new Linux gadget reminiscent of TIVO and reasonably  
>>>> priced.
>>>> It has all the right connectors, and entirely open source. Can  
>>>> record
>>>> to microdrives and USB drives, and does all of this in mpeg4:
>>> No, it's not really like a TiVo.  It's more like a VCR or DVD  
>>> recorder, in that it lets you play and make digital copies of the  
>>> output from these kinds of devices.  Like old-style VCRs, you can  
>>> program it to record at certain times and to use the external IR  
>>> blaster to control a TV or cable box, but it doesn't have it's own  
>>> cable or satellite-like TV Guide service (so that you could set it  
>>> to record certain shows whenever they come up as opposed to just  
>>> recording certain time slots on certain days regardless of what  
>>> might actually be showing at that time), and it's not networked in  
>>> any way so that you can play it back from a client of your choice.
>>> It doesn't integrate any storage, either.
>>> So, take an old-style VHS VCR.  Strip out the tape drive and  
>>> replace it with a card reader for a few different types of  
>>> removable cards, as well as a USB port so that you could plug in  
>>> external hard drives. Take the rest and re-implement pretty much  
>>> exactly as-is using open-source software on top of a Linux OS, and  
>>> give the user some control over what video format to use at what  
>>> screen size and what bit rate.
>>> That's a Neuros OSD.
>>> Myself, I really want those other features that TiVo can bring to  
>>> the table.
>>> I want an 100Base-TX Ethernet port, as well as 802.11g/n wireless  
>>> networking, so that I can watch my shows from whatever local or  
>>> remote client I may choose to use.  I want a TV Guide service, so  
>>> that I can set it to record my favourite shows whenever they come  
>>> on, on whichever channels they come on.
>>> I want it to have some intelligence to say that if I have scheduled  
>>> recordings for Star Trek: The Original Series and Star Trek TNG,  
>>> that I might also like Star Trek DS9, or Star Trek Voyager, or  
>>> Stargate SG-1, or any of various other SciFi shows.
>>> I also want the thing to be able to use network storage as well as  
>>> local storage, so that I can have a half-dozen Neuros OSDs in the  
>>> house, all set to record various different shows at various  
>>> different times.  I want a central console where I can control all  
>>> those devices, and to make use of a new device I can just plug it  
>>> into the network and I'm done.
>>> -- 
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