[SATLUG] OFF TOPIC: "Say No to Photo-ID" for Cred Card purchases...

David Kowis dkowis at shlrm.org
Thu Jan 31 22:09:44 CST 2008

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Tom Weeks wrote:
> Sorry for the off topic post.. But I don't know how many times now I've 
> been "required" to show a photo ID when using my CC.. but I'm really getting 
> sick of it.  Your self validating signature (in person and on back of the 
> card) is all that is required legally by both Visa and Master Card* 
> Has anyone else had problems bucking this?
> To have my civil liberty of self validation stolen by the state government and 
> local vendors is simply not something that I'm willing to give up...
> Tweeks
> * See Visa and MC rules around this both referenced here 
> http://www.wlindley.com/archives/28 

I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. It's just a second form of verifying
that your Credit card really is your credit card. It's not like they're
logging it or taking anything down. They're just using a second form of
identification. I think it's fully within the rights of the company to
impose further restrictions on how they do business. Just like the right
to carry weaponry. If you're carrying and the company asks you to leave,
you must comply.

I don't think this is a violation of civil liberties in any way...
They're simply trying to protect themselves and you by not relying on an
easily forge able signature. Besides that, they'd have to be good at
comparing signatures. I don't know about you, but my signature varies
pretty well. It would probably take a trained eye to notice the right
parts. Your average schmo running the cash register isn't going to be
able to do so. However, if you were to show them your drivers license,
which are easily recognizable. They can easily match the name on the
card with the name on the DL and you with the picture.

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