[SATLUG] OFF TOPIC: "Say No to Photo-ID" for Cred Card purchases...

rsuberg at satx.rr.com rsuberg at satx.rr.com
Thu Jan 31 23:18:59 CST 2008

I work at a company where only a few credit cards exist.  All of the 
cards say "check ID", and my name is not on a one of them.  I have only 
been asked for ID once, didn't match, and the place I was at at first 
said they would not take the card, but because I am a returning 
customer there, she ran it as a "phone-in" order and let the card thru.

Twice, I took the same card out of state for some training, went thru 
the hastle of getting the ID of the card name copied (on a copier) on 
company letterhead with my id, along with a letter stating I had 
authorization to use the card also on company letterhead.  For two days 
each trip, I used the card without being asked for any ID or having 
questions raised.

I have seen where "check ID" is suggested to be written on the sigature 
block of a card, but have not seen it make a difference.


----- Original Message -----
From: David Kowis <dkowis at shlrm.org>
Date: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OFF TOPIC: "Say No to Photo-ID" for Cred Card
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List <satlug at satlug.org>
Cc: xcssa at xcssa.org

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> Tom Weeks wrote:
> > Sorry for the off topic post.. But I don't know how many times 
> now I've 
> > been "required" to show a photo ID when using my CC.. but I'm 
> really getting 
> > sick of it.  Your self validating signature (in person and on 
> back of the 
> > card) is all that is required legally by both Visa and Master 
> Card* 
> > 
> > Has anyone else had problems bucking this?
> > 
> > To have my civil liberty of self validation stolen by the state 
> government and 
> > local vendors is simply not something that I'm willing to give up...
> > 
> > Tweeks
> > * See Visa and MC rules around this both referenced here 
> > http://www.wlindley.com/archives/28 
> I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. It's just a second form of 
> verifyingthat your Credit card really is your credit card. It's 
> not like they're
> logging it or taking anything down. They're just using a second 
> form of
> identification. I think it's fully within the rights of the 
> company to
> impose further restrictions on how they do business. Just like the 
> rightto carry weaponry. If you're carrying and the company asks 
> you to leave,
> you must comply.
> I don't think this is a violation of civil liberties in any way...
> They're simply trying to protect themselves and you by not relying 
> on an
> easily forge able signature. Besides that, they'd have to be good at
> comparing signatures. I don't know about you, but my signature varies
> pretty well. It would probably take a trained eye to notice the right
> parts. Your average schmo running the cash register isn't going to be
> able to do so. However, if you were to show them your drivers license,
> which are easily recognizable. They can easily match the name on the
> card with the name on the DL and you with the picture.
> - --
> David Kowis
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