[SATLUG] Re: mobile devices with linux

KC kcoriginal at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 29 13:14:26 CDT 2008

I dont mean to flame, really... but what dreamland are you living in where you actually come remotely close to suggesting that Apple will ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER... open.... anything...?

No offense meant to you, really... but it's been like almost 30 years since Mr Control Freak began to operate his always-has-50-times-more-potential-than-his-closed-minded-control-freakiness-will-allow Apple computer business... one of America's all-time greatest lost potentials... 


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:

> From: Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
> Subject: [SATLUG] Re: mobile devices with linux
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org>
> Cc: "K. Reginald Buckner" <buckmiester35 at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 1:57 AM
> On 7/26/08, K. Reginald Buckner wrote:
> >  I know about 10 years ago palm and HP came out with
> the Palm Pilot and the
> >  HP Ipaq. In the last few years what has happened with
> Linux in the Pocket
> >  PC/Internet Tablet market?
> The last of that generation was the HP hx4700.  I own three
> of them, 
> two of which are still in kernel developer hands, and one
> is rattling 
> around here somewhere.
> >  Is this were Windows Mobile Rule and there is no
> Linux or MAC OS X there?
> In terms of what it actually out there in the field today,
> I'd say 
> the leading implementations are the Nokia 770 (and other
> members of 
> that family), and the Neo 1973 running OpenMoko.  Both
> products can 
> be bought today.  Heck, there are people working on porting
> OpenMoko 
> to the hx4700, even.
> In terms of what is coming, there's a lot of phone
> vendor support for 
> LiMo, because that's a nice bag-o-technology that the
> vendors can use 
> any way they want to build anything they want, and to
> "service" their 
> carrier customers and provide all the 
> lock-em-down-and-keep-em-barefooot-and-pregnant-in-the-kitchen
> type 
> of features that carriers are so desperate for.
> OTOH, there's Google Android which is getting huge
> amounts of press 
> attention, and by virtue of sticking closer to the
> "Free as in 
> Freedom" concept, seems to be something that would be
> much more 
> interesting to people who would actually want to use their
> phones and 
> have their phones be portable across carriers, as opposed
> to those 
> who would be happy to take whatever semi-digested pabulum
> the 
> carriers might want to force-feed them.
> >  Do you want a mobile linux solution?
> Oddly enough, I do.  The iPhone gives us a very clear sense
> of the 
> potential in the market, but Apple keeps hobbling it with
> their NDAs 
> and by actively making the product incompatible with GPL
> software. 
> The hacker community keeps re-opening the iPhone, much to
> Apple's 
> dismay, and gives some of us a good sense of what the
> iPhone could be 
> like if Apple really wanted it to succeed.
> So, I strongly support a real challenger that is truly
> open.  Either 
> it will win and bury the iPhone, or they'll force Apple
> to open up 
> the iPhone in which case everyone will win since the iPhone
> will come 
> closer to achieving it's true potential and those who
> are 
> ideologically opposed to using an Apple product regardless
> of what it 
> is will still have a viable alternative.
> -- 
> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
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