[SATLUG] Re: Linux OS as basis for Network Management

K. Reginald Buckner buckmiester35 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 8 03:44:27 CDT 2008


On Sat Jun 7 2008 Brad Knowles wrote:

Considering that HP is a major vendor of Linux boxes, I'd imagine there is a
 version of HP OpenView for Linux.  Not so sure about Cisco Works.  But in
  any event, there are similar tools available for a variety of platforms.

  What specific features are you looking for?

Reason I asked is because I was trying to find a similiar tool to Openview
or Cisco Works from the FOSS side.

  SNMP Traps, server monitoring, application monitoring, router, switch and
leased circuits observation on live network map is some of the features I
was wondering about.

I am trying to break into being a Linux/Unix Engineer with strong server and
network skills. Plus I like this stuff just cause it gives me goose
pimples...


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>   1. Re: Re: Linux OS as basis for Network Management (FIRESTORM_v1)
>   2. Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS) (Geoff)
>   3. Re: broken cpu pin fell off (Chris Lemire)
>   4. Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS) (Daniel J. Givens)
>   5. Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS) (Brad Knowles)
>   6. Re: Re: Introduction of Myself and Linux for Newbies
>      (Todd W. Bucy)
>   7. Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS) (Geoff)
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>   9. Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS) (FIRESTORM_v1)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:21:35 -0500
> From: FIRESTORM_v1 <firestorm.v1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Re: Linux OS as basis for Network Management
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> I'm curious as to what kind of "network managment" you are trying to do.
> Are you looking for gathering SNMP statistics of devices or remote
> configuration?
>
>
> FIRESTORM_v1
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
> wrote:
> > On 6/7/08, K. Reginald Buckner wrote:
> >
> >>  Can someone enlightnen me?  Can Linux OS be used in a network
> manangement
> >>  since?
> >
> > Sure.  All Unix and Unix-like OSes can be used as network management
> tools,
> > or part of a larger network management system.  However, a great deal
> > depends on the specific software you're looking at running.
> >
> >>  For example can you use it like for HP Openview or Cisco Works? Or is
> >> there
> >>  an equal open source program that can monitor things like routers,
> >> switches,
> >>  leased circuits, bandwidth, etc?
> >
> > Considering that HP is a major vendor of Linux boxes, I'd imagine there
> is a
> > version of HP OpenView for Linux.  Not so sure about Cisco Works.  But in
> > any event, there are similar tools available for a variety of platforms.
> >
> > What specific features are you looking for?
> >
> >>  I am trying to understand the conversation about caching too. Please
> >> help?
> >
> > That should be in a separate thread, not this one.
> >
> > --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:23:01 -0500
> From: Geoff <geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu>
> Subject: Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS)
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> Brad Knowles wrote:
> >>  a command is stand alone, and an application calls commands to
> >> accomplish
> >>  something, usually incorporating options for the command
> >
> > So, a program that is completely standalone, and doesn't make any
> > calls to "commands", but performs complex operations (like a complete
> > word processor), would still be "just" a command?
>
> One would think that nits are an endangered species, what with as many
> that have been picked to death in this thread.
>
> Why can't y'all just agree that it's simply a matter of 'semantics' (you
> say toe-May-toe, I say toe-Mah-toe, but they're the same thing) and move
> on from there?
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:35:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chris Lemire <good_bye300 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] broken cpu pin fell off
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> --- FIRESTORM_v1 <firestorm.v1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you do decide to "move" your installation to the
> > new hardware (as
> > opposed to a fresh install) and you have installed
> > custom IDE drivers,
> > there is a registry edit that you MUST do in order
> > to make the Windows
> > installation use a generic IDE driver as opposed to
> > the motherboard
> > specific one you may have installed. (Trust me, this
> > saved my butt
> > several times)
> >
> > Take my advise, from someone that didn't do his
> > research before I did
> > the hardware swap.  Read this, copy the reg entry
> > from the MS site
> > below and copy it to a keydrive.  Run on the OS to
> > move BEFORE doing
> > the swap, then shut down. :P
> >
> > Linky goodness:
> >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q314082
> >  - You
> > receive a Stop 0x0000007B error after you move the
> > Windows XP system
> > disk to another computer.  Contains the registry
> > file to update.
> >
> >
> > Oh god, i'm soo going to hell for posting a
> > microsoft support link in
> > a Linux mailing list, aren't I?
> >
> > FIRESTORM_v1
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Chris Lemire
> > <good_bye300 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > For the broken cpu pin, we've decided on this. It
> > was
> > > supposed to be coming in in 2 days ,but somehow
> > that
> > > got changed to the Tuesday, and we still aren't
> > really
> > > sure.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3799146&CatId=2417
> > >
> > > Asus mobo, supposed to be good from what I heard
> > > Slightly faster mobo
> > > Drawback only 1 pci-e 16 x slot ( I may never have
> > ran
> > > sli sense its more efficient to upgrade)
> > > Should be able to bootup my current Fedora 9 in
> > raid,
> > > but I'm not sure if Wintendo is going to need a
> > > reinstalling, POS. What are your thoughts? Good,
> > Back,
> > > Good deal? It's better than what I had minus the
> > SLI capabilities.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Thanks for the news. It hadn't even crossed my mind,
> so I was sure to make the same mistake you had. I
> wonder if the registry can be editted from Linux
> because right now, I haven't been able to boot the
> computer at all. That's why I did the hardware
> upgrade. Going to hell for Windows? I wish I didn't
> have to depend on it for all the gaming that can be
> done with an 8800. Still, I haven't gone Vista, but
> that's what m$ is trying to get gamers to do by making
> directx10 Vista only. I've got 64 bit XP. If I can get
> a hold of the 1 ghz amd proc from somebody who just
> held on to it, I could possibly boot up the system and
> make the registry hack. I do not have any IDE drives
> except for 2 dual layer dvd burners. I have 2 sata2
> 320 gb drives. Thanks.
>
> Christopher Lemire <christopher.lemire at gmail.com>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:38:05 -0500
> From: "Daniel J. Givens" <daniel at rugmonster.org>
> Subject: Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS)
> To: satlug at satlug.org
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> On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:23:01 -0500
> Geoff <geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu> wrote:
> > One would think that nits are an endangered species, what with as many
> > that have been picked to death in this thread.
> >
> > Why can't y'all just agree that it's simply a matter of
> > 'semantics' (you say toe-May-toe, I say toe-Mah-toe, but they're the
> > same thing) and move on from there?
>
> Because I sometimes have a hard time overruling my ego and the tendency
> to feel threatening if I'm not 100% right. I'm a little slow to realize
> that sometimes and end up contributing to these sorts of exchanges. I
> do it with my wife as well, but I'm working on accepting that I can be
> wrong and it doesn't make me any less of a person. And I'm also
> learning that my assumptions that the implied will be conveyed and
> understood contribute to miscommunications. I'm working on it.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:44:59 -0500
> From: Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
> Subject: Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS)
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> On 6/7/08, Geoff wrote:
>
> >  Why can't y'all just agree that it's simply a matter of 'semantics' (you
> >  say toe-May-toe, I say toe-Mah-toe, but they're the same thing) and move
> >  on from there?
>
> That's basically what I was trying to do with my original reply on
> this issue -- there is no real difference between a "command" and an
> "application", so there's no sense in trying to artificially explain
> or create such a difference.
>
> --
> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:52:02 -0500
> From: "Todd W. Bucy" <toddwbucy at grandecom.net>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] Re: Introduction of Myself and Linux for Newbies
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
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>
> > As far as distributions, I am also going to throw my opinion behind
> > Ubuntu.  They have Ubuntu Server, and 'regular?' Ubuntu (desktop), and
> > just a few days ago I found a distribution for ubuntu called Ubuntu
> > Studio.  This distro is more relased to digital video/audio editing
> > and contains the Ubuntu Desktop with packages and applications for
> > DV/DA editing.  I haven't had a moment to play around with it, but a
> > friend of mine has been able to pull video from his DV Cam and is able
> > to edit it, transcode or press to DVD.  It can be downloaded from
> > http://www.ubuntustudio.org
> The only thing that I do not like with Ubuntustudio is that it dosnt
> come with cinelerra, which is perhaps the closest thing to a
> professional video editor that is out there for linux. Other then that
> there are a couple of other distros that are pretty good multimedia
> creation suites, such as Dyne:bolic, Blag, and 64studio.
>
> Todd
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:06:16 -0500
> From: Geoff <geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu>
> Subject: Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS)
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> oh, those poor nits.
>
> --
> Just how much fun can I have before I go to hell?
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:06:32 -0500
> From: "pixelnate at gmail.com" <pixelnate at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SATLUG] automatix2 troubles
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> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:35 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
> > However, if you are a graphics professional and each hour of your
> > time is worth thousands of dollars to your clients, then you need to
> > have tools available to you to make that investment worthwhile.  You
> > need a tool that can be used to create photo-realistic pictures in
> > under five minutes.
>
> So you do understand the importance of Photoshop. What your brother does
> is part of what I do at work. I do more web development now, but for a
> while I spent a lot of time do high end color correction and retouching.
> For that, the Gimp is just not up to the task.
>
>
> ~Nate
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:08:32 -0500
> From: FIRESTORM_v1 <firestorm.v1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: sudo (Was Re: [SATLUG] OpenDNS)
> To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List"
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> Oh, please, someone, think of the nits!!!
>
> /dons fireproof jacket and hides in the datacenter protected by FM200.....
>
> FIRESTORM_v1
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Geoff <geofff at w5omr.shacknet.nu> wrote:
> > oh, those poor nits.
> >
> > --
> > Just how much fun can I have before I go to hell?
>
> Well, if you're going there I am too, want to carpool?
>
>
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