[SATLUG] OT - Keep a lookout
matthewalan77 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 28 15:55:29 CDT 2008
I am originally from San Antonio and my wife and all of her family is from
Chalmette (one of the hardest hist areas). ALL of her family (HARD WORKING
AMERICANS) were displaced. None of them are holding out hands. The main
reason is because the community of Boerne took them in. 15 people all lived
between my mother-in-law house and the Omega Center Convent for nearly 9
months, all the while traveling back and forth, struggling to retain their
jobs while commuting 600 MILES!!! Lives destroyed by flood water and the
Chalmette Murphy Oil Spill that followed. "Why didn't they leave sooner?"
Because for all their lives, they would ride out the storms, and even throw
hurricane parties. Thats just what they did. Some people died in their
attacks when the waters came in over night. I say again. Good
Family-loving, Christian people. It is ridiculous to group all evacuees
into one from of criminals. The people you are describing are everywhere.
Love around. Been to downtown SA lately? Take a bullet proof vest with you
next time. San Antonio's crime rate was high before Katrina and will
continue to grow after Katrina. Get over it.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Geoff <geoff at w5omr.shacknet.nu> wrote:
> toddwbucy wrote:
> > You know that hurricane could have just as easily hit Houston as it did
> > New Orleans. Had it done so we here in San Antonio could have been the
> > refugees. Furthermore, not all the victims of Katrina are criminals
> oh, puh-leeze. I've worked in/out of New Orleans for the last 6 years.
> AFTER the storm, before the work started on Windsor park Mall, I was by
> there and saw about 50 ~ 75 able bodied, young (18 ~ 25) men, mostly,
> with shorts (of different waste height), mostly white socks, with
> sandals on, hats on sideways or backwards and most everyone had jewelry
> around their neck, and they were standing around, and -every- one had a
> '40' in their hand, in a plain brown wrapper. I would venture to say,
> that by -that- time, those who WANTED to help themselves, had already
> left the shelter and were headed out to do -something-. It was a/the
> group of 'do-nothings' that were all standing around. And as I drove
> by, drawing on my experience in New Orleans in the last 6 years, this
> thought came through my mind, Todd... 'The only thing that's changed for
> these people, is location'.
> > most of the refugees are in fact hard working Americans who had their
> > lives torn asunder by the hurricane and then were left to fend for
> > themselves by the federal government.
> You really don't have a clue, do you? It's not taking a long time for
> the people in New Orleans to recover. Hell, the business infrastructure
> was back up and running in just a few weeks. After the storm(s) at/near
> the end of Q3 2005, I went back to work to setup a major tradeshow, 'The
> Library Show', in June of 2006. That's not even a year after Katrina.
> And, it wasn't even the storm that did the damage. It was the woefully
> non-maintained and inadequate levy system. The US Government GAVE the
> state of Louisiana enough money (because the couldn't raise it for
> themselves) to build a levy system around Lake Ponchartrain that would
> withstand a Catagory 5 Hurricane. Katrina, when she hit land, was a 3.5
> ~ 4. It wasn't the storm, but rather the back-surge of water across the
> lake (thats only 6 to 10 feet deep, on average, for 32 miles
> north/south, and 50 miles wide, east/west) that was pushed up and over
> the levies by the winds of the storm.
> If the state of Louisiana had actually BUILT a Catagory 5 levy system,
> they (and us) wouldn't have the problems that we are all having right
> now. No, they built a Catagory 3 levy system, and spent the remaining
> amount of money on a river barge, a casino and other money that just
> 'disappeared' that was earmarked for 'entertaining dignitaries'.
> I can name you people in Kenner, LA (near the New Orleans airport)
> that's 30 miles WEST of where the storm came in, that are claiming flood
> damage, and roof damage and are getting 'Road Home' money, and this
> grant, and that loan and money coming out of their ears that they aren't
> even sure where it's coming from, and how many of 'em have actually
> rebuilt? THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE NEXT CHECK, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY
> SPENT THE PREVIOUS MONIES!
> > So if you have to blame someone blame God for the hurricane and
> President Bush for the inept response.
> Oh, PLEASE tell me you did NOT go there!
> Protocol dictates that The GOVERNOR of the state HAS TO REQUEST
> assistance, in such a disaster. The Whitehouse was on the phone with
> Kathleen Blanco off/on for *48 HOURS* waiting for her to say "ok, we
> need help". GET YOUR FACTS straight.
> > Don't blame out mayor or gove for showing christian charity by trying to
> help out fellow Americans in need!
> We helped, no doubt. There's -never- been an issue with every one in
> America doing their part to help the 5th and 6th generation of
> government welfare handout people of New Orleans... but how long are
> they going to ride that gravy train? I know of -one- family, living in
> Houston, in an Apartment, that is now -complaining- that they're
> actually going to have to start paying rent in the apartment they've
> been in, for the last TWO PLUS YEARS, because no one has helped them get
> back to New Orleans.
> Ready or not, those folks that are screaming to go back to New Orleans,
> need to be let loose, and let 'em go back. Get 'em out of -our- hair,
> and out of our houses and off our streets!
> I KNOW of where I speak on this issue. I'm making plans on -moving- to
> New Orleans, simply for the pure economics of living and working in the
> same geographical area. I've been in and out of that town since Jan of
> 2002, and had even moved down there, for a time, but left the May
> -before- the storm.
> I had a checkbook with a Chalmette address on it (that house was under
> 20' of water). I -could- have claimed that I was displaced, even though
> I was renting, and gotten my $2+,ooo debit card, applied for, and gotten
> disaster relief, extended unemployment benefits, foodstamps, welfare,
> etc... with just that checkbook, and my ID. Did I? No. How many
> people do I know, that live in the GNO that would have? 90% of 'em.
> So, don't sit there and tell me that the storm only displaced the good
> and decent people of New Orleans, and that it was our Nations Government
> that was at fault for not replying or responding any sooner. Nature
> CAUSED the storm. The Government of Louisiana (the best politicians
> money can buy!) let it's people down, and the people of Louisiana and
> New Orleans have got their hand out, like they have for the last 50 or
> 60 years, looking for someone to bail them out of trouble, yet again.
> The people of SE Louisiana have forgotten what boot-straps are, let
> alone how to pull them selves up by them!
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