[SATLUG] 1st Q? - RAID5 quit working - Attempting recovery #2

David Labens adlabens at swbell.net
Fri Aug 21 18:38:57 CDT 2009

I really didn't mean that electronic failures were more common than mechanical ones.  But, on the /sdc drive where it has some read errors that are consistent, I'm not convinced that's mechanical.  As for the other drive that failed a long time ago, I'm also not so sure because SmartMonTools says it's still good.

Yes, everything I've ever owned that was mechanical eventually failed.

As for my patience, I learned a long time ago that impatience USUALLY only gets in the way of bigger success.  Since I am really wanting to recover the data, and I'm "in over my head," I am being as patient as it will take.  My only personal issue is my apprehension that I'm going to lose the data.

And, I am MOST APPRECIATIVE (words barely express my thanks) for the help I am receiving.

And, I have a few questions about going forward... but I'll ask them under a different email.

David Labens

San Antonio, TX

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Herb Cee <hc at lookcee.com> wrote:

From: Herb Cee <hc at lookcee.com>
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] 1st Q? - RAID5 quit working - Attempting recovery #2
To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org>
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 4:05 PM

David Labens wrote:
> Freezing the drive?  Funny that should be mentioned.  I JUST NOW finished repairing DSL at a customer's home, and HE suggested that freezing the drive might make it work.  However, he explained that the read would need to be completed by the time the drive thaws out and before the moisture inside condenses.  Considering it's 250 gb, I'm inclined to think that it would thaw faster than it could be fully read.  HOWEVER, I would consider that as an option of last resort.   I'd never heard of such a thing till today, then from two different sources!   Freezing causes everything to shrink JUST ENOUGH to let it move freely.  However, I don't think moving components are the problem.  "I don't think." - which may be a problem!

I have to disagree David I think the moving parts are what almost always fails the drive by wear or a slight defect causing a slight wobble to happen and when you consider those disk are whirling around a fixed center and the arm of the RW head has a different center and has to move the full length of the arm travel holding a tolerance less than a cig paper thick .... Sam thinks that way too because that is the purpose of putting the drive at a diff angle letting gravity and force work from a different direction. I think its a bloody miracle of engineering to get it to work at all.

>> Also you might try putting the bad harddrive in different positions (ie, upside down, sideways) to see if that helps with getting the data off of it.
>> Sam
> Sam would freezing the drive maybe help since many have had success with that trick. I dunno, never had to use it
> herb
David I am watching this episode very closely and i truly think you are in good hands. You also have more patience than I and I sure hope it pays off for you.
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