[SATLUG] Shopping Question

Andrew Pickens wg5o at sbcglobal.net
Mon Feb 23 18:02:03 CST 2009

Thanks to all.  I forwarded this collection of highly qualified opinions 
to NV for their guidance.

Andy Pickens

John Pappas wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 22:03, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew Pickens wrote:
>>> Please excuse a non-Linux question, but this is the only source of expert
>>> info that I have available.
>>> My daughter-in-law, in central Nevada (Round Mountain), asked the
>>> following.  Since my wife is a phone company retiree, we get a special rate,
>>> and I have no answer.
>>> "We received a mail advertisement yesterday from the DSL provider for this
>>> area. Do you think 39.95 a month for 12 months, and a 5.95 lease fee, with
>>> 99.00 install is reasonable? The rate goes up 10 dollars after the first
>>> year to their basic fee of 49.95. Right now we are paying 22.95 for AT&T
>>> dialup. We rarely have issues with it, but it is so slow, and you can forget
>>> about receiving pictures.
> If they are used to Dialup, any DSL speed better than 128K would be a vast
> improvement, if the increased cost is acceptable.  If you are looking at a
> 256K up/768K down ADSL link, and there is little/no cable competition, then
> the price is reasonable (albeit maybe not fair), but if you are looking at
> the 512Kb up/1+M down ADSL, the price is fair.  I am paying ~57 for RR turbo
> (1M up 15M down), Although I am in town and in a competitive market.
> "The lease fee is for the satellite and equipment that they have to install.
>>> It is much like the Direct TV equipment that we have now. We did not buy the
>>> satellite dish or the receiver, so we have to lease it. Although with Direct
>>> TV, they waive the fee because we have been with them for so long."
> Not sure how this applies, but Satellite will be more expensive per KB than
> nearly any other medium, although the 5G cap introduced by the wireless
> carriers for data plans may change that for heavy users.  Most wireless data
> plans run in the 60/month range and average 256K up/512K down, depending on
> signal strength and protocol.  I have gotten as high as 1.5M down on my
> Sprint EVDO rev A card (cut that in half for just EVDO) and just under 1M
> (~900K) down on 3G via my iPhone.  EDGE/RTT are better than dialup, but
> noticeably slow in comparison (300-400K down).  I have no experience with
> Satellite, but my understanding is that latency is high (128K mile round
> trip), but throughput is acceptable.  Most Sat providers also have a "Fair
> Use" policy (Similar to the caps that most carriers use) so be aware.
>> You don't say what the speed it, but that seems kinda pricey. OTOH, I
>> suspect that being in the middle of Nevada is more expensive for these types
>> of things.  The question thy have to ask is is the increased speed worth the
>> $30/month difference to them.  It would be to me, but everyone is different.
> I agree.  I cannot function professionally without a net connection (and
> barely personally) so I will pay whatever it takes to get a reasonable
> link.  The 5G cap that Sprint hit me with eliminates feasibility as a
> full-time connection, but works great as an on-demand on ramp to the
> Internet.
> HTH,
> jp

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