From riugakusei at aim.com Thu Jan 1 08:02:10 2009 From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:02:23 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem In-Reply-To: References: <8CB39CEC5DCDA77-E38-11B4@webmail-dx18.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CB3A30ACC0314F-708-125E@WEBMAIL-MC03.sysops.aol.com> nothing... no output nothing... funny eh -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Lemire To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 6:22 pm Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wireless problem What happens when you type "ifconfig wlan0 up" as root? On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM, wrote: > aam running suse 11.0 ona? dell latitude d630.. ei cant get the wireless to > work. dell 1505 mini/ Broadcom 4328, i tried ndiswrapper > \ > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # ndiswrapper -l > bcmwl5 : driver installed > ??????? device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb) > i also got ndiswrapper loaded > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # dmesg|grep ndisw > ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no) > usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper > > > any help / hints are appreciated > vega > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- Christopher Lemire Ubuntu 64 bit Linux Raid Level 0 -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From wn5pmr at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 08:12:40 2009 From: wn5pmr at gmail.com (mike) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:12:46 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] happy 2009 Message-ID: <495CCF58.6000607@gmail.com> to all my friends in the SATLUG. Hope your year up coming will be a good one. Mike WN5PMR From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Thu Jan 1 08:45:10 2009 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:45:12 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Zune hiccups Message-ID: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> In today's NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/technology/personaltech/01zune.html?th&emc=th From w5omr at att.net Thu Jan 1 08:45:11 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:45:17 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] happy 2009 In-Reply-To: <495CCF58.6000607@gmail.com> References: <495CCF58.6000607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <495CD6F7.3020001@att.net> mike wrote: > to all my friends in the SATLUG. Hope your year up coming will be a > good one. > > Mike WN5PMR ----------------------------------------- "Today" (G.Edmonson) Today, I was /*ABLE*/, to; wake up, walk, talk and bitch about things I can NOT change. Today, I am too Blessed to be Stressed! ------------------------------------------- My wish for 2009 to everyone is that when you start wondering what you're doing, where you are, and what your goals are and in general feeling sorry for yourself, stop and remind yourself 1) I am alive. 2) I have a place to live 3) I have the means to feed myself. 4) I can complain, but why? It's a matter of perspective. The fact that you have a place to live and a job, and you're reading this on a computer screen means that you are better than 90% of the people in the world. Bless the American troops overseas who have volunteered to keep our country safe. For me, it's as simple as, I have a roof over my head, food in the fridge/freezer/pantry and bills are being paid, because I'm working. Everything else is subsequential. (like that one? ;->) In other words, cover the basics. Let the rest worry about itself. Life is good! Happy New Year, y'all! Geoff/W5OMR & Rhonda/KE5YKQ From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Thu Jan 1 09:06:50 2009 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Thu Jan 1 09:07:11 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Zune hiccups In-Reply-To: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <495CDC0A.40607@cis.sac.accd.edu> Borries Demeler wrote: > In today's NYTimes: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/technology/personaltech/01zune.html?th&emc=th > The only thing that could top that is all the automobile's with M$ software have a similar failure. February 29th all automobiles with M$ software won't start. Now that would be a headline to see. Wishing everyone a fantastic 2009, Steve From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Thu Jan 1 10:08:39 2009 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Thu Jan 1 10:08:41 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem In-Reply-To: <8CB3A30ACC0314F-708-125E@WEBMAIL-MC03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <623865.61971.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> its probably not setup as wlan0. maybe eth1 or something like that. look at iwconfig's output as root --- On Thu, 1/1/09, riugakusei@aim.com wrote: > From: riugakusei@aim.com > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wireless problem > To: satlug@satlug.org > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 8:02 AM > nothing... no output nothing... funny eh > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Lemire > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List > > Sent: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 6:22 pm > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wireless problem > > > > > > > > > > > What happens when you type "ifconfig wlan0 up" as > root? > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM, > wrote: > > > aam running suse 11.0 ona? dell latitude d630.. ei > cant get the wireless to > > work. dell 1505 mini/ Broadcom 4328, i tried > ndiswrapper > > \ > > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # ndiswrapper -l > > bcmwl5 : driver installed > > ??????? device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: > ssb) > > i also got ndiswrapper loaded > > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # dmesg|grep ndisw > > ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no) > > usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper > > > > > > any help / hints are appreciated > > vega From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 11:22:36 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Thu Jan 1 11:22:27 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] happy 2009 In-Reply-To: <495CD6F7.3020001@att.net> References: <495CCF58.6000607@gmail.com> <495CD6F7.3020001@att.net> Message-ID: <495CFBDC.5030903@gmail.com> Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > mike wrote: >> to all my friends in the SATLUG. Hope your year up coming will be a >> good one. >> >> Mike WN5PMR > > ----------------------------------------- > "Today" > (G.Edmonson) > > Today, I was /*ABLE*/, to; > wake up, > walk, > talk > and bitch about things I can NOT change. > > Today, I am too Blessed to be Stressed! > ------------------------------------------- > > My wish for 2009 to everyone is that when you start wondering what > you're doing, where you are, and what your goals are and in general > feeling sorry for yourself, stop and remind yourself > 1) I am alive. > 2) I have a place to live > 3) I have the means to feed myself. > 4) I can complain, but why? > > It's a matter of perspective. The fact that you have a place to live > and a job, and you're reading this on a computer screen means that you > are better than 90% of the people in the world. > Bless the American troops overseas who have volunteered to keep our > country safe. > > For me, it's as simple as, I have a roof over my head, food in the > fridge/freezer/pantry and bills are being paid, because I'm working. > > Everything else is subsequential. (like that one? ;->) In other words, > cover the basics. Let the rest worry about itself. > > Life is good! > > Happy New Year, y'all! > Geoff/W5OMR & Rhonda/KE5YKQ A Happy New Year to all of you as well. After Geoff's fashion: I'm upright and eatin' solid food; Life is good. Cheers! Ed > > From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 11:24:48 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Thu Jan 1 11:24:41 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Zune hiccups In-Reply-To: <495CDC0A.40607@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> <495CDC0A.40607@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: <495CFC60.6090404@gmail.com> skolars wrote: > Borries Demeler wrote: > >> In today's NYTimes: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/technology/personaltech/01zune.html?th&emc=th >> >> > The only thing that could top that is all the automobile's with M$ > software have a similar failure. February 29th all automobiles with M$ > software won't start. Now that would be a headline to see. > > Wishing everyone a fantastic 2009, > Steve > > Did you know that Ford uses M$ in their fancy GPS packages? Just waiting for the fallout... Cheers; Ed From techgeeks at aaronhackney.com Thu Jan 1 11:26:40 2009 From: techgeeks at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Thu Jan 1 11:26:44 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Zune hiccups In-Reply-To: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200901011445.n01EjAVS009867@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <495CFCD0.7050009@aaronhackney.com> Borries Demeler wrote: > In today's NYTimes: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/technology/personaltech/01zune.html?th&emc=th > I'm not bashing....it could happen to anyone...but... In all of the programming classes I have ever taken, the first exercise is "Hello World" and the second exercise is "Calculate a leap year"! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Hackney (210) 325-2196 Return e-mail responses to aaron@aaronhackney.com As this e-mail address is not checked! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc at lookcee.com Thu Jan 1 12:55:41 2009 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Thu Jan 1 12:55:32 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control In-Reply-To: <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <200812311925.29691.jdchoate@gmail.com> <495C2013.1030907@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> Message-ID: <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> Todd W. Bucy wrote: > herb cee wrote: >> John D Choate wrote: >>> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 19:11:36 herb cee wrote: >>> >>>> just not into movies (last movie I went to see was Jurassic Park) >>>> but always wanted to see Matrix. I tried every one of the 5 or 6 >>>> players that was in the Ubuntu install apps and I then decided to >>>> remove all of them and reinstall just mplayer/Totem and the VLC >>>> that I use for streaming audio. Both of them work fine but still >>>> after reinstallation refuse to play this dvd. I don't wa >>>> >>> >>> You might need to install libdvdcss2. >>> Or just try to install libdvdcss. >>> >> John when I search the Synaptic package manager I get no results for >> these packages and I have repositories: Main, universe, restricted & >> multiverse selected. Is there someplace else to get one or both? > you need to add the medibuntu repository to get libdvdcss > > Todd Hey thanks Todd that fixed the dvd player. I still have not been able to fix the Gnome Volume Control tho. So far I have reinstalled all 30 of the packages that were showing as installed for Gnome and the Synaptic did DL 60 files but still when launching the vol-ctl I get: "Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)" Todd I just am not smart enough to know what that means or how to fix it. I claim MS refugee status ( forced to be my own SA in Linux to avoid slavery and torture by MS) lol, happy newyear Any further help will be much appreciated From scs at worldlinkisp.com Thu Jan 1 13:02:38 2009 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Thu Jan 1 13:02:41 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Subsequential (Happy 2009) Message-ID: <9a944ac871a94d7bb873a20bcd2ee376.scs@worldlinkisp.com> >Everything else is subsequential. (like that one? ;->) >In other words, cover the basics. Let the rest worry about itself. ------------------------------------------------------------ Believe you meant inconsequential Senor Geoff. Subsequential (subsequential limit) is a math term. Prospero Ano Nuevo From jdchoate at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 13:09:20 2009 From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate) Date: Thu Jan 1 13:09:25 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control In-Reply-To: <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <200901011309.20877.jdchoate@gmail.com> On Thursday 01 January 2009 12:55:41 herb cee wrote: > Todd W. Bucy wrote: > > herb cee wrote: > >> John D Choate wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 19:11:36 herb cee wrote: > >>> > >>>> just not into movies (last movie I went to see was Jurassic Park) > >>>> but always wanted to see Matrix. I tried every one of the 5 or 6 > >>>> players that was in the Ubuntu install apps and I then decided to > >>>> remove all of them and reinstall just mplayer/Totem and the VLC > >>>> that I use for streaming audio. Both of them work fine but still > >>>> after reinstallation refuse to play this dvd. I don't wa > >>>> > >>> > >>> You might need to install libdvdcss2. > >>> Or just try to install libdvdcss. > >>> > >> John when I search the Synaptic package manager I get no results for > >> these packages and I have repositories: Main, universe, restricted & > >> multiverse selected. Is there someplace else to get one or both? > > you need to add the medibuntu repository to get libdvdcss > > > > Todd > Hey thanks Todd that fixed the dvd player. I still have not been able to > fix the Gnome Volume Control tho. So far I have reinstalled all 30 of > the packages that were showing as installed for Gnome and the Synaptic > did DL 60 files but still when launching the vol-ctl I get: > "Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or > directory)" > Todd I just am not smart enough to know what that means or how to fix > it. I claim MS refugee status ( forced to be my own SA in Linux to avoid > slavery and torture by MS) > lol, happy newyear > Any further help will be much appreciated Try to reinstall gnome-media I am not an ubuntu user, so I am referring to rpm package names. But when I search for 'gnome-volume-control rpm', I get referred to 'gnome-media'. Good luck. John C. From w5omr at att.net Thu Jan 1 13:27:03 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Thu Jan 1 13:27:08 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Subsequential (Happy 2009) In-Reply-To: <9a944ac871a94d7bb873a20bcd2ee376.scs@worldlinkisp.com> References: <9a944ac871a94d7bb873a20bcd2ee376.scs@worldlinkisp.com> Message-ID: <495D1907.7090707@att.net> scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: >> Everything else is subsequential. (like that one? ;->) >> In other words, cover the basics. Let the rest worry about itself. >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Believe you meant inconsequential Senor Geoff. > Subsequential (subsequential limit) is a math term. > > Prospero Ano Nuevo > The whole point was to bring vision to one of my Dad's favorite sayings: "Life is but a two phase plan. Phase one: don't sweat the small sh*t. Phase two: it's all small sh*t. 6 months from now, whatever it was that had your brain in a knot *at this moment in time* ... just won't matter. This, too, shall pass. Ed got it. He's upright, ambulatory and eating solid food. Life is good. Don't sweat the small stuff. Be thankful you're able to wake up and not be worm food. Happy 2009. From toddwbucy at grandecom.net Thu Jan 1 13:31:52 2009 From: toddwbucy at grandecom.net (Todd W. Bucy) Date: Thu Jan 1 13:31:56 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control In-Reply-To: <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <200812311925.29691.jdchoate@gmail.com> <495C2013.1030907@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <495D1A28.7040103@grandecom.net> herb cee wrote: > Todd W. Bucy wrote: >> herb cee wrote: >>> John D Choate wrote: >>>> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 19:11:36 herb cee wrote: >>>> >>>>> just not into movies (last movie I went to see was Jurassic Park) >>>>> but always wanted to see Matrix. I tried every one of the 5 or 6 >>>>> players that was in the Ubuntu install apps and I then decided to >>>>> remove all of them and reinstall just mplayer/Totem and the VLC >>>>> that I use for streaming audio. Both of them work fine but still >>>>> after reinstallation refuse to play this dvd. I don't wa >>>>> >>>> >>>> You might need to install libdvdcss2. >>>> Or just try to install libdvdcss. >>>> >>> John when I search the Synaptic package manager I get no results for >>> these packages and I have repositories: Main, universe, restricted & >>> multiverse selected. Is there someplace else to get one or both? >> you need to add the medibuntu repository to get libdvdcss >> >> Todd > Hey thanks Todd that fixed the dvd player. I still have not been able > to fix the Gnome Volume Control tho. So far I have reinstalled all 30 > of the packages that were showing as installed for Gnome and the > Synaptic did DL 60 files but still when launching the vol-ctl I get: > "Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file > or directory)" > Todd I just am not smart enough to know what that means or how to fix > it. I claim MS refugee status ( forced to be my own SA in Linux to > avoid slavery and torture by MS) > lol, happy newyear > Any further help will be much appreciated have you checked the Ubuntu Bug reports yet, a quick google turned up the following bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/60937 from '06...it is old but there may be some ideas in there that you could try. This is my usual approach to problems such as this. Todd From scs at worldlinkisp.com Thu Jan 1 15:11:36 2009 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Thu Jan 1 15:11:38 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem Message-ID: :> am running suse 11.0 ona? dell latitude d630.. ei cant get the wireless to > work. dell 1505 mini/ Broadcom 4328, i tried ndiswrapper >/ linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # ndiswrapper -l > bcmwl5 : driver installed > ??????? device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb) > i also got ndiswrapper loaded > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # dmesg|grep ndisw > ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no) > usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper > any help / hints are appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------- Are you sure your wlan0 network preferences are correct, and that your wlan0 driver is the correct one for your 4328 module? I'm using ndiswrapper (bcmwl5.xxx) with a bcm4315 module. Lou From hc at lookcee.com Thu Jan 1 15:12:08 2009 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Thu Jan 1 15:11:59 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control In-Reply-To: <200901011309.20877.jdchoate@gmail.com> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> <200901011309.20877.jdchoate@gmail.com> Message-ID: <495D31A8.7010602@lookcee.com> > Try to reinstall gnome-media > I am not an ubuntu user, so I am referring to rpm package names. But when I search for 'gnome-volume-control rpm', I get referred to 'gnome-media'. > Good luck. > > John C. > John I found the DL for 'gnome media' and now it now shows in the SPMgr. index. However, when I ask it to install it again asks for the install CD and neither of the three work I get this message: W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080422.2)]/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.18-3_i386.deb I looked at properties and neither of the CDs show this (20080422.2)as a serial # Anyway neither of the 3 CDs work so leaves me baffled. I think I will try to search the Server edition of the CDs for <> cause I think that is the CD I used since this rig is the main server to the other 2 rigs. I think I have the Desktop on one sta. and MSME on the other. Thanks herb From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Thu Jan 1 15:20:55 2009 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Thu Jan 1 15:20:57 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <79724.93475.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, scs@worldlinkisp.com wrote: > Are you sure your wlan0 network preferences are correct, > and > that your wlan0 driver is the correct one for your 4328 > module? > > I'm using ndiswrapper (bcmwl5.xxx) with a bcm4315 > module. > > Lou maybe I was seeing things, but I thought he fixed it? From edeleonjr at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 15:23:24 2009 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon) Date: Thu Jan 1 15:23:26 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Kernel Issues for 8.10 Message-ID: I was just wondering if anyone else ran into some issues with installing Ubuntu 8.10 on certain hardware. I was attempting to install it on a Toshiba notebook for a friend and it would consistently drop into terminal mode (non-GUI) and show kernel issues...I can't remember the exact error now, but I did find it on the Ubuntu forums as a prevalent problem having to do with the newest kernel. I burned an 8.04 cd real fast and that installed without issues (obviously an older kernel rev.) I'm not even sure that 8.10 is that much better than 8.04, but I like to have the newest 'stable' (apparently not in this case) version installed when I give it to other people. 8.04 is working like a charm. Ernest From hc at lookcee.com Thu Jan 1 15:52:09 2009 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Thu Jan 1 15:52:00 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control In-Reply-To: <495D31A8.7010602@lookcee.com> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> <200901011309.20877.jdchoate@gmail.com> <495D31A8.7010602@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <495D3B09.8060900@lookcee.com> herb cee wrote: > >> Try to reinstall gnome-media >> I am not an ubuntu user, so I am referring to rpm package names. But >> when I search for 'gnome-volume-control rpm', I get referred to >> 'gnome-media'. >> Good luck. >> >> John C. >> > John I found the DL for 'gnome media' and now it now shows in the > SPMgr. index. However, when I ask it to install it again asks for the > install CD and neither of the three work I get this message: > W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 > (20080422.2)]/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.18-3_i386.deb > > > I looked at properties and neither of the CDs show this (20080422.2)as > a serial # > Anyway neither of the 3 CDs work so leaves me baffled. I think I will > try to search the Server edition of the CDs for > <> cause I think that is the CD > I used since this rig is the main server to the other 2 rigs. I think > I have the Desktop on one sta. and MSME on the other. > Thanks > herb I failed to find that file on the CD but got 2pages of google on it that were no help to me being in sumpin like jigdo format. I did get the test sound working in Pidgin by changing the sound to plain beep and looking at my VIA sound chip it shows the alsa drivers (I think) and OSS and there is an open bug report on this. but was way over my head so I gonna sit back and watch the 'Now Working Matrix'. Thanks a lot guys herb From edeleonjr at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 16:38:48 2009 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon) Date: Thu Jan 1 16:38:50 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube Message-ID: I want to ask the list first before I head to the goodwill: Does anyone on the list know of a family with children that would like a Nintendo Game Cube? It has all necessary wires, 2 wireless controllers (I know there are 2 more and some wired ones which I am looking for at the moment). I also have 2 or 3 games for it. I do not use it at all and no one that I know wants one. If you happen to know of someone, preferably someone who may not be able to afford one, please let me know. I know I should have done this right before Christmas because someone may have wanted to give it as a gift, but I was too busy at the time. At any rate, if no one wants it by the end of next week, I will take it to the goodwill. Thanks, Ernest From hc at lookcee.com Thu Jan 1 17:58:40 2009 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Thu Jan 1 17:58:31 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] DVD not play, broken Volume Control RESOLVED In-Reply-To: <495D3B09.8060900@lookcee.com> References: <495C1848.6060607@lookcee.com> <495C4FC3.6010205@grandecom.net> <495D11AD.3050607@lookcee.com> <200901011309.20877.jdchoate@gmail.com> <495D31A8.7010602@lookcee.com> <495D3B09.8060900@lookcee.com> Message-ID: <495D58B0.4000001@lookcee.com> herb cee wrote: > herb cee wrote: >> >>> Try to reinstall gnome-media >>> I am not an ubuntu user, so I am referring to rpm package names. But >>> when I search for 'gnome-volume-control rpm', I get referred to >>> 'gnome-media'. >>> Good luck. >>> >>> John C. >>> >> John I found the DL for 'gnome media' and now it now shows in the >> SPMgr. index. However, when I ask it to install it again asks for >> the install CD and neither of the three work I get this message: >> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 >> (20080422.2)]/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.18-3_i386.deb >> >> >> I looked at properties and neither of the CDs show this >> (20080422.2)as a serial # >> Anyway neither of the 3 CDs work so leaves me baffled. I think I will >> try to search the Server edition of the CDs for >> <> cause I think that is the >> CD I used since this rig is the main server to the other 2 rigs. I >> think I have the Desktop on one sta. and MSME on the other. >> Thanks >> herb > I failed to find that file on the CD but got 2pages of google on it > that were no help to me being in sumpin like jigdo format. I did get > the test sound working in Pidgin by changing the sound to plain beep > and looking at my VIA sound chip it shows the alsa drivers (I think) > and OSS and there is an open bug report on this. but was way over my > head so I gonna sit back and watch the 'Now Working Matrix'. > Thanks a lot guys > herb Thanks to all Disabling the CDs from the active repository and reinstalling 'ubuntu desktop' did the final trick I now can play encrypted DVDs with Xzine and I have the main sound card volume control working, the old geeser is a happy geezer, soooo 'appy nu yr thanks herb From scs at worldlinkisp.com Thu Jan 1 18:34:40 2009 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Thu Jan 1 18:34:42 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Wireless Problem Message-ID: Checked the Dell R202477.exe driver, appears correct. When DRIVER_US is unzipped should produce five files bcm43xx.cat bcm43xx64.cat bcm43wl5.inf bcm43wl5.sys bcm43wl564.sys Suggest you reinstall ndiswrapper, as follows: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf ndiswrapper -l demod -a ndiswrapper -m reboot double check your wlan0 setup/preferences < iwlist scan > will tell you if it's working, or, if Suse doesn't support this, then do Alex's < iwconfig > Let us know what happens. Lou From dvprogs at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 20:22:04 2009 From: dvprogs at gmail.com (D Villarreal) Date: Thu Jan 1 20:22:08 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] happy what ?!?!?! Message-ID: <7f9598380901011822u26be90bdsc2e01cfa43342db6@mail.gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:02:38 -0500 > From: "scs@worldlinkisp.com" > Subject: [SATLUG] Subsequential (Happy 2009) > To: satlug@satlug.org > > >Everything else is subsequential. (like that one? ;->) > >In other words, cover the basics. Let the rest worry about itself. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Believe you meant inconsequential Senor Geoff. > Subsequential (subsequential limit) is a math term. > > Prospero Ano Nuevo > Believe you meant "a?o" se?or scs Ano is an orifice located in the backside. Nice try, but hey, you get special points for being culturally sensitive! :-) BTW, I got Outlook email converted over to GNU/Linux finally. That was a real pain in the ano. ;-) From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 20:58:43 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Thu Jan 1 20:58:52 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] OT: VISTA SUCKS Message-ID: <495D82E3.7020002@gmail.com> By far, one of the best reasons to use Linux I've seen yet! http://www.blip.tv/file/340692?filename=Deanopp-VISTASUCKS845.flv Cheers, and Happy New Year! Ed From riugakusei at aim.com Thu Jan 1 22:20:36 2009 From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com) Date: Thu Jan 1 22:20:49 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB3AA898539FA7-11F0-17F5@WEBMAIL-MZ08.sysops.aol.com> i got it to work... i installed ndiswrapper.... but i also installes a firmware: /usr/sbin/install_b43_Firmware ?modprobe -vvv b43 modprobe -vv b43legacy update the kernel n rebooted n it was recognized... ?i dont even know if i needed ndiswrapper LOL... but my wifi its working as we speak... i looked around on the forums... thats the help i got.. hope this helps some one else. -----Original Message----- From: scs@worldlinkisp.com To: satlug@satlug.org Sent: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 4:11 pm Subject: Re: [SATLUG] wireless problem :> am running suse 11.0 ona? dell latitude d630.. ei cant get the wireless to > work. dell 1505 mini/ Broadcom 4328, i tried ndiswrapper >/ linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # ndiswrapper -l > bcmwl5 : driver installed > ??????? device (14E4:4328) present (alternate driver: ssb) > i also got ndiswrapper loaded > linux-xs8j:/home/medar/DRIVER_US # dmesg|grep ndisw > ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no) > usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper > any help / hints are appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------- Are you sure your wlan0 network preferences are correct, and that your wlan0 driver is the correct one for your 4328 module? I'm using ndiswrapper (bcmwl5.xxx) with a bcm4315 module. Lou -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Thu Jan 1 22:25:50 2009 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks) Date: Thu Jan 1 22:26:04 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] converting to the GNU/Linux way In-Reply-To: <495BC04E.1080108@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <7f9598380812291836x22829032wc61c4772b8523cb4@mail.gmail.com> <4959B7E0.6040109@gmail.com> <495BC04E.1080108@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: <200901012225.50880.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 12:56:14 pm skolars wrote: [...] > I am willing to bet Unix admins all over the world can send in times > that are totally unknown in the M$ world. Yes, but uptime on Windows boxes really is a different ball game. Not just because that platform is less stable, but because most critical patches do require some amount of rebooting. So the paradigm of good admin = high uptime is flipped in the MS world. High uptime in Windows means that you've never applied all of your patches and rebooted... thus your system is vulnerable. Not so in the UN*X world. But really... back in the UN*X world... over the years, instead of doing the hole "my uptime is bigger than yours" ego stroke.. I prefer to share painful stories of lost uptime! Much more fun... :) Here are a few of mine... Had to move my server location within the datacenter: http://theweeks.org/tmp/MINE/uptime-2003-12.png http://theweeks.org/tmp/MINE/uptime-2003-12_ouch.png or The time I made a hot-plug, in-line UPS for another forced move of my lunchbox server so that I wouldn't lose my 1yr+ of uptime... : http://theweeks.org/toms-stuff/pics/psi-web-xfer-2.jpg Just after that photo was taken of the box actually running on my hacked 12/5v inline UPS gel-cell, I accidentally shorted +5 to GND and BEEP.. it rebooted.. Ouch.. ... all those jiffies lost... Tweeks From jdchoate at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 23:41:54 2009 From: jdchoate at gmail.com (John D Choate) Date: Thu Jan 1 23:41:58 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] For those who have a need for typing special characters Message-ID: <200901012341.54437.jdchoate@gmail.com> This might be old news to some of you, but it was a good find for me. If this has been covered in the list before, please forgive me. For those who may need to use characters such as: ????????????????????? etc... I searched google for an easy way to use special characters in Linux without having to open a Character Map tool and copy/paste the character. For years, I had always just used the KDE character map utility. I finally found a post where someone suggested running 'scim'. So I installed 'scim' and 'scim-gtk'. After running scim, a configuration utility runs in the tray, and the special characters are available with some very easy keystrokes. For example: The " key is assigned to umlaut, so for an umlaut character such as ?, you would type " followed by o. If you want a capital, like ?, you type the " first, then O ( or keep SHIFT held down after typing the " ) Similarily, you would use ' followed by o to get ?, ` followed by o to get ?, ~ followed by n to get ?, ^ followed by i to get ?, etc. If you want to use the regular quotes, tilde, etc. then use space after the character. So then " followed by spacebar results in simply " I still need the character map for more unusual ones like: ????????????????????????????????? I'm not sure if the above characters will show up properly, but they look fine to me. From techgeeks at aaronhackney.com Thu Jan 1 23:48:43 2009 From: techgeeks at aaronhackney.com (Aaron Hackney) Date: Thu Jan 1 23:48:47 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] converting to the GNU/Linux way In-Reply-To: <200901012225.50880.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> References: <7f9598380812291836x22829032wc61c4772b8523cb4@mail.gmail.com> <4959B7E0.6040109@gmail.com> <495BC04E.1080108@cis.sac.accd.edu> <200901012225.50880.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> Message-ID: <495DAABA.1000809@aaronhackney.com> Tweeks wrote: > On Wednesday 31 December 2008 12:56:14 pm skolars wrote: > [...] > >> I am willing to bet Unix admins all over the world can send in times >> that are totally unknown in the M$ world. >> > > Yes, but uptime on Windows boxes really is a different ball game. Not just > because that platform is less stable, but because most critical patches do > require some amount of rebooting. So the paradigm of good admin = high > uptime is flipped in the MS world. High uptime in Windows means that you've > never applied all of your patches and rebooted... thus your system is > vulnerable. Not so in the UN*X world. > > But really... back in the UN*X world... over the years, instead of doing the > hole "my uptime is bigger than yours" ego stroke.. I > prefer to share painful stories of lost uptime! Much more fun... :) > > Here are a few of mine... > > Had to move my server location within the datacenter: > http://theweeks.org/tmp/MINE/uptime-2003-12.png > http://theweeks.org/tmp/MINE/uptime-2003-12_ouch.png > > or > > The time I made a hot-plug, in-line UPS for another forced move of my lunchbox > server so that I wouldn't lose my 1yr+ of uptime... : > http://theweeks.org/toms-stuff/pics/psi-web-xfer-2.jpg > > I can't help but think of the Seinfeld episode where George does the same thing with the Frogger machine so he doesn't lose his high score :) > Just after that photo was taken of the box actually running on my hacked 12/5v > inline UPS gel-cell, I accidentally shorted +5 to GND and BEEP.. it > rebooted.. Ouch.. > > ... all those jiffies lost... > > Tweeks > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Hackney (210) 325-2196 Return e-mail responses to aaron@aaronhackney.com As this e-mail address is not checked! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 00:00:30 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Fri Jan 2 00:00:21 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] 2008 =?iso-8859-1?q?=BB_March_=BB_09_=BB_Linux=2C_open_source_and?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_me_at_Internetling_dot_com?= Message-ID: <495DAD7E.4040102@gmail.com> Truth here! http://www.internetling.com/2008/03/09/ Cheers; Ed From cherylholmes72 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 00:07:54 2009 From: cherylholmes72 at gmail.com (Cheryl Holmes) Date: Fri Jan 2 00:07:56 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Ed, MS sucks is awesome! Thank you!! cheryl Message-ID: <7e4994a70901012207v6fd92de8p3ba9bb281d6a1015@mail.gmail.com> -- When you have so little in life, there's nothing as precious as the unselfish, undying love, devotion and companionship of blessed little angels we call our pets....(in memory and deepest love, Hillary, June 2008; Misty Nov. 2007; Maxi, July 2004; Sheba, May 2000). From scs at worldlinkisp.com Fri Jan 2 06:49:26 2009 From: scs at worldlinkisp.com (scs@worldlinkisp.com) Date: Fri Jan 2 06:49:29 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem Message-ID: >i got it to work... i installed ndiswrapper.... but i also >installes a firmware: /usr/sbin/install_b43_Firmware >?modprobe -vvv b43 , modprobe -vv b43legacy >update the kernel n rebooted n it was recognized... >?i dont even know if i needed ndiswrapper LOL... but my wifi >its working as we speak... i looked around on the forums... >thats >the help i got.. hope this helps some one else. -------------------------------------------------- Good news that it's working, glad you eventually found help. Depending on the kernel, the firmware may or may not be contained. Am pretty sure ndiswrapper was/is needed. The acid test would be to remove ndiswrapper, reboot, and see if your firmware patch alone activates it. Lou From hc at lookcee.com Fri Jan 2 07:33:44 2009 From: hc at lookcee.com (herb cee) Date: Fri Jan 2 07:33:45 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] For those who have a need for typing special characters In-Reply-To: <200901012341.54437.jdchoate@gmail.com> References: <200901012341.54437.jdchoate@gmail.com> Message-ID: <495E17B8.9080305@lookcee.com> John D Choate wrote: > This might be old news to some of you, but it was a good find for me. If this > has been covered in the list before, please forgive me. > > For those who may need to use characters such as: ????????????????????? etc... > > I searched google for an easy way to use special characters in Linux without > having to open a Character Map tool and copy/paste the character. > For years, I had always just used the KDE character map utility. > I finally found a post where someone suggested running 'scim'. So I > installed 'scim' and 'scim-gtk'. > After running scim, a configuration utility runs in the tray, and the special > characters are available with some very easy keystrokes. > For example: > The " key is assigned to umlaut, so for an umlaut character such as ?, you > would type " followed by o. If you want a capital, like ?, you type the " > first, then O ( or keep SHIFT held down after typing the " ) > Similarily, you would use ' followed by o to get ?, ` followed by o to get ?, > ~ followed by n to get ?, ^ followed by i to get ?, etc. > > If you want to use the regular quotes, tilde, etc. then use space after the > character. So then " followed by spacebar results in simply " > > I still need the character map for more unusual ones like: > ????????????????????????????????? > I'm not sure if the above characters will show up properly, but they look fine > to me. > Hey thanks John I saved your tip cause I have struggled in the past searching for one of these bad boys. I spaced your list apart and made it bigger and looks ok to me too. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? etc. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? herb From misteratomic at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 08:24:21 2009 From: misteratomic at gmail.com (Marc Ripley) Date: Fri Jan 2 08:24:23 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: Wall-E (Todd W. Bucy) Message-ID: <4bf1dcc60901020624o58951a11l5252bd32037a914e@mail.gmail.com> > I have no problems watching the movie my only problem is with copying it > to hard drive for archival purposes. have you tried to run mplayer or > mythtv out of terminal to see waht sort of error you get? > > Todd I tried mplayer with DVD writer through a USB interface. Plopping the movie in the drive would load a nautilus window (gnome) and clicking any of the vobs failed. Attempting to load it with the mplayer gui, also fails. I'll try using the terminal this weekend and report my findings. Thanks! Marc From misteratomic at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 08:32:49 2009 From: misteratomic at gmail.com (Marc Ripley) Date: Fri Jan 2 08:32:51 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube Message-ID: <4bf1dcc60901020632m13f6bda8p8777bcdf2dbd9651@mail.gmail.com> Oh, my kids would love that. Still have it? > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:38:48 -0600 > From: "Ernest De Leon" > Subject: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I want to ask the list first before I head to the goodwill: > > Does anyone on the list know of a family with children that would like a > Nintendo Game Cube? It has all necessary wires, 2 wireless controllers (I > know there are 2 more and some wired ones which I am looking for at the > moment). I also have 2 or 3 games for it. I do not use it at all and no one > that I know wants one. If you happen to know of someone, preferably someone > who may not be able to afford one, please let me know. I know I should have > done this right before Christmas because someone may have wanted to give it > as a gift, but I was too busy at the time. At any rate, if no one wants it > by the end of next week, I will take it to the goodwill. > > Thanks, > Ernest -- Marc From w5omr at att.net Fri Jan 2 09:17:52 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Fri Jan 2 09:17:59 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] From Fortune Message-ID: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> I found this rather poignant... from fortune: Rattling around the back of my head is a disturbing image of something I saw at the airport ... Now I'm remembering, those giant piles of computer magazines right next to "People" and "Time" in the airport store. Does it bother anyone else that half the world is being told all of our hard-won secrets of computer technology? Remember how all the lawyers cried foul when "How to Avoid Probate" was published? Are they taking no-fault insurance lying down? No way! But at the current rate it won't be long before there are stacks of the "Transactions on Information Theory" at the A&P checkout counters. Who's going to be impressed with us electrical engineers then? Are we, as the saying goes, giving away the store? -- Robert W. Lucky, IEEE President From edeleonjr at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:14:51 2009 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon) Date: Fri Jan 2 10:14:54 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] From Fortune In-Reply-To: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> References: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> Message-ID: There are several ways to look at this. I will give my view point only and others are free to chime in as fit. I believe that information should be free (as in beer and freedom.) I understand that for purposes of national security, competitive advantage, trade secrets, etc., a lot of information is kept secret or not released to the public at large (and I mean globally.) Some things should be kept secret because the release of that information to certain parties could cause great harm to many people, but at the same time, withholding information for the sake protectionism is wrong as well. This is especially prevalent in the technology field as a whole. Rather than continuously innovate, many companies turn to copyright, patent and other forms of legal protectionism to extract as much money as possible from a given idea. This is fundamentally wrong on so many levels, but our government values 'intellectual property,' thus ends that debate. As far as general information goes, like the magazines in your quote, no one should be barred from attaining that information. This is very different from attaining certain information like plans to construct a nuclear bomb. Those would obviously benefit no one who is trying to do good for society, and in the hands of the wrong group, well, you know. The main reason that people or groups withhold information from the general public is to have an advantage over others. The phrase 'knowledge is power' has some merit. Whether the advantage be competitiveness in the market or superiority of other sorts, withholding information from others assures the informed party of success over the ignorant party. I freely share all of the information that I know with anyone who wants to know. I don't believe that withholding something for the sake of creating a dependency on me or my services is right. I look at it this way...lets assume that we try and hide everything we have done thus far to advance our society. As other societies become more literate and stable, they will eventually figure it all out and surpass us at some point. How will we feel when we are then on the other side of the informational divide? It is better to foster a sense of cooperation and learning between all of us now so that we can evolve as a species rather than in subsets. I think that we are one or two generations away from dropping most if not all of the ignorance and prejudices that have plagued our species for several millenia, and it is in no small part due to the overall rise in world literacy, reasoning and critical thinking skills. Let's not let personal fears or greed get in the way of global education. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > I found this rather poignant... > > > from fortune: > > Rattling around the back of my head is a disturbing image of something > I saw at the airport ... Now I'm remembering, those giant piles of > computer magazines right next to "People" and "Time" in the airport > store. Does it bother anyone else that half the world is being told > all of our hard-won secrets of computer technology? Remember how all > the lawyers cried foul when "How to Avoid Probate" was published? Are > they taking no-fault insurance lying down? No way! But at the current > rate it won't be long before there are stacks of the "Transactions on > Information Theory" at the A&P checkout counters. Who's going to be > impressed with us electrical engineers then? Are we, as the saying > goes, giving away the store? > -- Robert W. Lucky, IEEE President > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From riugakusei at aim.com Fri Jan 2 12:05:19 2009 From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com) Date: Fri Jan 2 12:05:28 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] wireless problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB3B1BCEB49B9A-D2C-AA4@WEBMAIL-MB19.sysops.aol.com> yes.. n thanks.. ill let u know whats the outcome -----Original Message----- From: scs@worldlinkisp.com To: satlug@satlug.org Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 7:49 am Subject: RE: Re: [SATLUG] wireless problem >i got it to work... i installed ndiswrapper.... but i also >installes a firmware: /usr/sbin/install_b43_Firmware >?modprobe -vvv b43 , modprobe -vv b43legacy >update the kernel n rebooted n it was recognized... >?i dont even know if i needed ndiswrapper LOL... but my wifi >its working as we speak... i looked around on the forums... >thats >the help i got.. hope this helps some one else. -------------------------------------------------- Good news that it's working, glad you eventually found help. Depending on the kernel, the firmware may or may not be contained. Am pretty sure ndiswrapper was/is needed. The acid test would be to remove ndiswrapper, reboot, and see if your firmware patch alone activates it. Lou -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Fri Jan 2 12:54:50 2009 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Fri Jan 2 12:55:15 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Microsoft market share dives again Message-ID: <495E62FA.1020307@cis.sac.accd.edu> Thought you might enjoy this one: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9124718&intsrc=hm_list Steve From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 13:41:35 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Fri Jan 2 13:41:24 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Kernel Issues for 8.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495E6DEF.2010509@gmail.com> Ernest De Leon wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone else ran into some issues with installing > Ubuntu 8.10 on certain hardware. I was attempting to install it on a Toshiba > notebook for a friend and it would consistently drop into terminal mode > (non-GUI) and show kernel issues...I can't remember the exact error now, but > I did find it on the Ubuntu forums as a prevalent problem having to do with > the newest kernel. I burned an 8.04 cd real fast and that installed without > issues (obviously an older kernel rev.) I'm not even sure that 8.10 is that > much better than 8.04, but I like to have the newest 'stable' (apparently > not in this case) version installed when I give it to other people. 8.04 is > working like a charm. > > Ernest > Hi Earnest... I ran into the same problem(s) with 8.10 when trying to distro upgrade my Acer 3050 Aspire notebook (AMD Sempron 1.8Ghz, 2.5GB Kingston RAM, ATI 200M 32MB shared), and when trying a fresh install on an HP Pavillion 531w tower (Intel Centrino 1.3Ghz, 512MB Hyundai RAM, ATI Radeon 7000 64MB on-card). A problem exists with the script the ATI driver-install package tries to use to call OpenOffice as a dependency. Why it should need that? I haven't a clue. Nor am I experienced enough to re-write the script. I discovered the error while trying to compile and install the ATI drivers at the CLI, separately from the distro install... However, in both cases, at the end of the install, I was summarily dumped to a terminal screen and left hanging. Further, all attempts to back-install the original fglrx (OpenGL) drivers were met with a warning window stating that fglrx no longer worked in the 8.10 environment. I hastily crawled back to the stable 8.04, did fresh installs on both machines, and have been happy ever since. (I am, tho, beginning to look at other distros now, to see what I might be missing...) Cheers; Ed From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 13:44:27 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Fri Jan 2 13:44:15 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495E6E9B.60302@gmail.com> Ernest De Leon wrote: > I want to ask the list first before I head to the goodwill: > > Does anyone on the list know of a family with children that would like a > Nintendo Game Cube? It has all necessary wires, 2 wireless controllers (I > know there are 2 more and some wired ones which I am looking for at the > moment). I also have 2 or 3 games for it. I do not use it at all and no one > that I know wants one. If you happen to know of someone, preferably someone > who may not be able to afford one, please let me know. I know I should have > done this right before Christmas because someone may have wanted to give it > as a gift, but I was too busy at the time. At any rate, if no one wants it > by the end of next week, I will take it to the goodwill. > > Thanks, > Ernest > Hi Ernest; My son-in-law would probably love it. Do you require any arrangements? Cheers; Ed From edeleonjr at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 14:10:00 2009 From: edeleonjr at gmail.com (Ernest De Leon) Date: Fri Jan 2 14:10:02 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube In-Reply-To: <495E6E9B.60302@gmail.com> References: <495E6E9B.60302@gmail.com> Message-ID: Someone has claimed it for now...if they don't show for some reason, I will let the next person who asked have it. Ernest On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:44 PM, ed wrote: > Ernest De Leon wrote: > >> I want to ask the list first before I head to the goodwill: >> >> Does anyone on the list know of a family with children that would like a >> Nintendo Game Cube? It has all necessary wires, 2 wireless controllers (I >> know there are 2 more and some wired ones which I am looking for at the >> moment). I also have 2 or 3 games for it. I do not use it at all and no >> one >> that I know wants one. If you happen to know of someone, preferably >> someone >> who may not be able to afford one, please let me know. I know I should >> have >> done this right before Christmas because someone may have wanted to give >> it >> as a gift, but I was too busy at the time. At any rate, if no one wants it >> by the end of next week, I will take it to the goodwill. >> >> Thanks, >> Ernest >> >> > Hi Ernest; > > My son-in-law would probably love it. Do you require any arrangements? > > Cheers; > Ed > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From misteratomic at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 14:28:03 2009 From: misteratomic at gmail.com (Marc Ripley) Date: Fri Jan 2 14:28:06 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Apple TV loading Linux & MythTV Message-ID: <4bf1dcc60901021228n5eaa1780od621dd2ca94b649b@mail.gmail.com> Ok gang, I need your help if at all possible. I was shopping SAMS Club on the 24th and they were clearing out Apple TVs (ATV) for 113 bucks a piece. Well, I snagged the last two they had with the hopes of hacking Linux on it for a MythTV frontend. I find that the hardware is capable of easily doing 1080i under the nvidia proprietary driver and, of course, running Linux. I am currently in the process of the hack which includes a USB boot stick to telnet into the ATV to perform the hack. I've followed the guide located at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_MythFrontend_on_Apple_TV_using_Gentoo. Everything goes well including the repartitioning of the ATV and un-tar of the gentoo files. The project hits the skids when I attempt to enter the "New Environment": mount -t proc none gentoo/proc works fine, then... mount -o bind /dev gentoo/dev errors with an "invalid argument" I've tried all sorts of syntax and researched the mount -o bind command. I'm at a loss to know how to proceed. I tried to move forward but when I later got to: emerge -v =gentoo-sources-2.6.24-r8 genkernel this worked fine but genkernel --kernel-config=/usr/src/config-2.6.24.3 all fails with unable to mount /dev/BOOT and more similar failures. I'm sure it's related to not being able to bind "/dev" with the mount command. Any hint to point me in the right direction? I'm surprised I got as far as a telnet port on the ATV and formatting it! -- Marc From jeremymann at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 14:40:26 2009 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Fri Jan 2 14:40:28 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Apple TV loading Linux & MythTV In-Reply-To: <4bf1dcc60901021228n5eaa1780od621dd2ca94b649b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4bf1dcc60901021228n5eaa1780od621dd2ca94b649b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79ec289f0901021240q38b1fbf3vfd14047a2b23f085@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Marc Ripley wrote: > Ok gang, I need your help if at all possible. > > I was shopping SAMS Club on the 24th and they were clearing out Apple > TVs (ATV) for 113 bucks a piece. > Well, I snagged the last two they had with the hopes of hacking Linux > on it for a MythTV frontend. > I find that the hardware is capable of easily doing 1080i under the > nvidia proprietary driver and, of course, running Linux. > > I am currently in the process of the hack which includes a USB boot > stick to telnet into the ATV to perform the hack. > I've followed the guide located at > http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_MythFrontend_on_Apple_TV_using_Gentoo. > > Everything goes well including the repartitioning of the ATV and > un-tar of the gentoo files. > > The project hits the skids when I attempt to enter the "New Environment": > > mount -t proc none gentoo/proc > > works fine, then... > > mount -o bind /dev gentoo/dev > > errors with an "invalid argument" I think that's a typo. When I set up a chroot environment to enter, I always do: mount --bind /dev /mnt/image/dev mount --bind /proc /mnt/image/proc /mnt/image is where my chroot system is located. -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From afcasta at satx.rr.com Fri Jan 2 17:23:27 2009 From: afcasta at satx.rr.com (Al Castanoli) Date: Fri Jan 2 17:23:30 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] From Fortune In-Reply-To: References: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> Message-ID: <1230938607.13178.16.camel@phrodo> Aside from the idea that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, I'd much rather folks fix their own PCs than waiting until they can find some dumb sod to do it for them. When my kids bring their friends over and they see the PCs I built, either they or their parents often ask me to fix their PC. I usually tell them they can't afford me. I work on enterprise UNIX and Linux boxen and consider PCs little more than smart terminals. This is not a looking down my snoot point of view - I've just spent so many years working on these things that I don't enjoy working on Macs or PCs at all anymore. I had a job about 7 years ago where the company CEO had a sick IBM Think Station an home that he expected me to drive over and fix every time he downloaded a new virus. I overlooked it the first couple of times, but after the third visit I started calling the headhunters and got a new job. OTOH, I thoroughly enjoyed the last Linux installfest at SAC and was able to help people do something useful with their PC hardware. The difference is our customers there can come to the list for help and don't expect the installer to be on the hook for all their maintenance requirements. If you fix someone's Windows box or Mac, they expect you to work on it for them whenever the bogon flux hits them. Al Castanoli On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 10:14 -0600, Ernest De Leon wrote: > There are several ways to look at this. I will give my view point only and > others are free to chime in as fit. I believe that information should be > free (as in beer and freedom.) I understand that for purposes of national > security, competitive advantage, trade secrets, etc., a lot of information > is kept secret or not released to the public at large (and I mean globally.) > Some things should be kept secret because the release of that information to > certain parties could cause great harm to many people, but at the same time, > withholding information for the sake protectionism is wrong as well. This is > especially prevalent in the technology field as a whole. Rather than > continuously innovate, many companies turn to copyright, patent and other > forms of legal protectionism to extract as much money as possible from a > given idea. This is fundamentally wrong on so many levels, but our > government values 'intellectual property,' thus ends that debate. As far as > general information goes, like the magazines in your quote, no one should be > barred from attaining that information. This is very different from > attaining certain information like plans to construct a nuclear bomb. Those > would obviously benefit no one who is trying to do good for society, and in > the hands of the wrong group, well, you know. The main reason that people or > groups withhold information from the general public is to have an advantage > over others. The phrase 'knowledge is power' has some merit. Whether the > advantage be competitiveness in the market or superiority of other sorts, > withholding information from others assures the informed party of success > over the ignorant party. I freely share all of the information that I know > with anyone who wants to know. I don't believe that withholding something > for the sake of creating a dependency on me or my services is right. I look > at it this way...lets assume that we try and hide everything we have done > thus far to advance our society. As other societies become more literate and > stable, they will eventually figure it all out and surpass us at some point. > How will we feel when we are then on the other side of the informational > divide? It is better to foster a sense of cooperation and learning between > all of us now so that we can evolve as a species rather than in subsets. I > think that we are one or two generations away from dropping most if not all > of the ignorance and prejudices that have plagued our species for several > millenia, and it is in no small part due to the overall rise in world > literacy, reasoning and critical thinking skills. Let's not let personal > fears or greed get in the way of global education. > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > > > I found this rather poignant... > > > > > > from fortune: > > > > Rattling around the back of my head is a disturbing image of something > > I saw at the airport ... Now I'm remembering, those giant piles of > > computer magazines right next to "People" and "Time" in the airport > > store. Does it bother anyone else that half the world is being told > > all of our hard-won secrets of computer technology? Remember how all > > the lawyers cried foul when "How to Avoid Probate" was published? Are > > they taking no-fault insurance lying down? No way! But at the current > > rate it won't be long before there are stacks of the "Transactions on > > Information Theory" at the A&P checkout counters. Who's going to be > > impressed with us electrical engineers then? Are we, as the saying > > goes, giving away the store? > > -- Robert W. Lucky, IEEE President > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Fri Jan 2 18:14:50 2009 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Fri Jan 2 18:15:13 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] From Fortune In-Reply-To: <1230938607.13178.16.camel@phrodo> References: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> <1230938607.13178.16.camel@phrodo> Message-ID: <495EADFA.8020906@cis.sac.accd.edu> Al Castanoli wrote: > > > OTOH, I thoroughly enjoyed the last Linux installfest at SAC and was > able to help people do something useful with their PC hardware. The > difference is our customers there can come to the list for help and > don't expect the installer to be on the hook for all their maintenance > requirements. If you fix someone's Windows box or Mac, they expect you > to work on it for them whenever the bogon flux hits them. > > Al Castanoli > The students, and others, who get Linux installed really appreciate the assistance they get at the Installfest. Glenn, John, and I greatly appreciate it. Steve From riugakusei at aim.com Sat Jan 3 00:59:45 2009 From: riugakusei at aim.com (riugakusei@aim.com) Date: Sat Jan 3 00:59:58 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] kismet configuartio Message-ID: <8CB3B87FEA2B932-D00-24A0@Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com> hi am atrying to get kismet workin on my laptop... am running? a dell 1505 miniwireless card.../ ?Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03) .running suse 11.0.. i looked aorund n says its its not supported.. but there is always a way around.. any ideas hints gladly appreciate it ?on kismet.conf i have my sources like this source: b43,wlan0,broadcom linux-i7g3:~ # vim /etc/kismet.conf linux-i7g3:~ # !ki kismet Launching kismet_server: /usr/bin/kismet_server Suid priv-dropping disabled.? This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng) Enabling channel hopping. Enabling channel splitting. Source 0 (broadcom): Enabling monitor mode for b43 source interface wlan0 channel 6... FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument.? This usually means your drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for getting to it.? Make sure you have a version of your drivers that support monitor mode, and consult the troubleshooting section of the README. Done. From w5omr at att.net Sat Jan 3 06:56:24 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Sat Jan 3 06:56:32 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel Message-ID: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> Can someone explain this? Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 From dkowis at shlrm.org Sat Jan 3 08:16:22 2009 From: dkowis at shlrm.org (David Kowis) Date: Sat Jan 3 08:16:24 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> Message-ID: <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Geoff/W5OMR wrote: | | Can someone explain this? | | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving | 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/caching-dns-server-error-lame-server-resolving-294136/ Use djbdns! It doesn't suck as much! ;P - -- David Kowis www.campaignforliberty.com - Freedom is popular! www.sourcemage.org - SourceMage GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJJX3M2AAoJEMnf+vRw63Ob+9IL/RoNcAsk0MLY1KCKGWdCrQd0 tDHh0YXraZcsBjBEpKd0bW3zXn1G+7RrCX/To4ApwNaTY1m1WNDn44IHPKsYyuxN ds1xb2bbrNvYHJvjwEf4zquobToR9F4QmTj7v3ap1SWObSjrImg5xk8SfdYiBfkD okBb33Hd1pAViiqlB+8hmySIAe/Zqs3Zy3f3AX/SGUWLTfC05VIJla/XMWS3RW+W lqQcm9U6FFPE+Vzr2Vr2tZpVa5J7q4ZPgmWAFRgSDx5+Z4WMbj5Lb1bLw9pr1Uyx 9z/wjfkW841gPxzv0vSS/Wwz8ruH93hgH/Z5ohfx2TWIWb/E9eF7By0SbZRHXMx5 dnMPK5rQ4TdcC8jis4zcM7kxn9t3pQg9S5DkKDjEkNMgcQKD4zVE33ACNk2jDPaF 2VEwCERiIP3+BFehZkDL2TEC5byJhGRBz7g4eF8jSnDVap+kDoAF0QLGo8UqZOnc nOr9wnn5Zb7iwVglXYUjTC1124ocgZc9at1q2XrkJw== =Iqm4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alesmerises at satx.rr.com Sat Jan 3 10:16:15 2009 From: alesmerises at satx.rr.com (Alan Lesmerises) Date: Sat Jan 3 10:16:16 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] From Fortune In-Reply-To: References: <495E3020.3010601@att.net> Message-ID: <495F8F4F.7040104@satx.rr.com> Ernest, I think you (and Mr. Lucky) are mixing three disparate areas of knowledge here. First, there's the fundamental scientific concepts upon which technology is based, then there's the specific implementation of those concepts. Finally, once the technology is actually built and marketed to the world (be it for individuals or large corporations), there is the knowledge needed to utilize that technology to it's maximum capabilities. The first area is the kind of stuff that's taught in schools -- basic principles and general approaches to certain types of problems. I think these concepts _ARE_ the kind of knowledge that should not be kept from the world at large for the reasons you mention below, unless of course they are inherently dangerous (think nuclear weapons, although even that genie has been let out of its bottle now). Something like "Transactions on Information Theory" falls squarely into this category. Even if it weren't, the fact that it would have to be taught in U.S. universities in order to get our own kids up-to-speed on those topics, and that foreign students attend those same universities, that information wouldn't be kept 'secret' for long. The second area of knowledge is the stuff that would be covered by patents and copyrights, simply kept confidential as a "trade secret" -- computer code, the recipes for specific composite materials or special metal alloys, IC chip and circuit board designs, manufacturing techniques, etc. The companies that developed those designs or technologies spent a lot of hard-earned money in R&D and they deserve to recoup their investments. The third area of knowledge is the kind of thing that the manufacturers would WANT to be disseminated because it facilitates their customers in actually using their products, and encourages others to buy their products, because people will know what they can potentially DO with those products, even if it wasn't something that was originally intended. I think even Apple likes the idea that people come up with hacks to the iPhone for new ways to use them because it tells other people "here's something else you can do with it ...". The mainstream consumer computer/technology magazines usually focus on the third type of information, and the technical journals for professionals (i.e., scientists, engineers, et. al.) concentrate on the first category, and sometimes topics in the second (for patents that have expired or methods/processes that have made their way into the public domain). Publishing either of these kinds of information does not constitute giving away the store or undermine the practice of engineering (whatever the discipline) because the proof of the state of engineering in the U.S. is in the products we produce. If we don't maintain our standards and lead in the marketplace, THAT will be our undoing -- think of Toyota's reputation for quality vs. the troubles being faced by GM, Chrysler, & (to a lesser extent, because their quality is perceived to be better) Ford. That's just my 10?. Al Lesmerises Ernest De Leon wrote: > There are several ways to look at this. I will give my view point only and > others are free to chime in as fit. I believe that information should be > free (as in beer and freedom.) I understand that for purposes of national > security, competitive advantage, trade secrets, etc., a lot of information > is kept secret or not released to the public at large (and I mean globally.) > Some things should be kept secret because the release of that information to > certain parties could cause great harm to many people, but at the same time, > withholding information for the sake protectionism is wrong as well. This is > especially prevalent in the technology field as a whole. Rather than > continuously innovate, many companies turn to copyright, patent and other > forms of legal protectionism to extract as much money as possible from a > given idea. This is fundamentally wrong on so many levels, but our > government values 'intellectual property,' thus ends that debate. As far as > general information goes, like the magazines in your quote, no one should be > barred from attaining that information. This is very different from > attaining certain information like plans to construct a nuclear bomb. Those > would obviously benefit no one who is trying to do good for society, and in > the hands of the wrong group, well, you know. The main reason that people or > groups withhold information from the general public is to have an advantage > over others. The phrase 'knowledge is power' has some merit. Whether the > advantage be competitiveness in the market or superiority of other sorts, > withholding information from others assures the informed party of success > over the ignorant party. I freely share all of the information that I know > with anyone who wants to know. I don't believe that withholding something > for the sake of creating a dependency on me or my services is right. I look > at it this way...lets assume that we try and hide everything we have done > thus far to advance our society. As other societies become more literate and > stable, they will eventually figure it all out and surpass us at some point. > How will we feel when we are then on the other side of the informational > divide? It is better to foster a sense of cooperation and learning between > all of us now so that we can evolve as a species rather than in subsets. I > think that we are one or two generations away from dropping most if not all > of the ignorance and prejudices that have plagued our species for several > millenia, and it is in no small part due to the overall rise in world > literacy, reasoning and critical thinking skills. Let's not let personal > fears or greed get in the way of global education. > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > > >> I found this rather poignant... >> >> >> from fortune: >> >> Rattling around the back of my head is a disturbing image of something >> I saw at the airport ... Now I'm remembering, those giant piles of >> computer magazines right next to "People" and "Time" in the airport >> store. Does it bother anyone else that half the world is being told >> all of our hard-won secrets of computer technology? Remember how all >> the lawyers cried foul when "How to Avoid Probate" was published? Are >> they taking no-fault insurance lying down? No way! But at the current >> rate it won't be long before there are stacks of the "Transactions on >> Information Theory" at the A&P checkout counters. Who's going to be >> impressed with us electrical engineers then? Are we, as the saying >> goes, giving away the store? >> -- Robert W. Lucky, IEEE President >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> SATLUG mailing list >> SATLUG@satlug.org >> http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe >> Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) >> >> From satlug at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 3 10:39:12 2009 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Sat Jan 3 10:39:16 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:16:22 -0600, David Kowis wrote: >Geoff/W5OMR wrote: >| >| Can someone explain this? >| >| Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving >| 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 >| Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving >| 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 >| Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving >| 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 >| Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving >| 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 >| Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving >| 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 >| > >http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/caching-dns-server-error-lame-server-resolving-294136/ > >Use djbdns! It doesn't suck as much! ;P > >David Kowis It's not a software issue, it's a political struggle. While the CIS department at SAC is composed of nice guys who always wear clean underwear, call their mothers regularly, and help puppies and kittens across the street, their higher management occasionally runs out from under the porch and bites them. SAC CIS is not allowed to run the infrastructure for the district. Thus problems regularly occur that would be prevented by someone with marketable skills. 'Lame' is the nicest thing they've been called in quite a while. --Don -- Be well - or at least have interesting symptoms! From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Sat Jan 3 10:44:42 2009 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Sat Jan 3 10:45:05 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> Message-ID: <495F95FA.5080409@cis.sac.accd.edu> David Kowis wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > | > | Can someone explain this? > | > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/caching-dns-server-error-lame-server-resolving-294136/ > > > Use djbdns! It doesn't suck as much! ;P > > - -- > David Kowis > > www.campaignforliberty.com - Freedom is popular! > www.sourcemage.org - SourceMage GNU/Linux > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJJX3M2AAoJEMnf+vRw63Ob+9IL/RoNcAsk0MLY1KCKGWdCrQd0 > tDHh0YXraZcsBjBEpKd0bW3zXn1G+7RrCX/To4ApwNaTY1m1WNDn44IHPKsYyuxN > ds1xb2bbrNvYHJvjwEf4zquobToR9F4QmTj7v3ap1SWObSjrImg5xk8SfdYiBfkD > okBb33Hd1pAViiqlB+8hmySIAe/Zqs3Zy3f3AX/SGUWLTfC05VIJla/XMWS3RW+W > lqQcm9U6FFPE+Vzr2Vr2tZpVa5J7q4ZPgmWAFRgSDx5+Z4WMbj5Lb1bLw9pr1Uyx > 9z/wjfkW841gPxzv0vSS/Wwz8ruH93hgH/Z5ohfx2TWIWb/E9eF7By0SbZRHXMx5 > dnMPK5rQ4TdcC8jis4zcM7kxn9t3pQg9S5DkKDjEkNMgcQKD4zVE33ACNk2jDPaF > 2VEwCERiIP3+BFehZkDL2TEC5byJhGRBz7g4eF8jSnDVap+kDoAF0QLGo8UqZOnc > nOr9wnn5Zb7iwVglXYUjTC1124ocgZc9at1q2XrkJw== > =Iqm4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Thanks, I will look into it. We have not changed anything in DNS for awhile now, however we do have to go through someone who has a terrible time with system administration. Due to this it may be early next week, when they come back to work, before I can get anything done. Steve From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 11:48:30 2009 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Sat Jan 3 11:48:32 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> Message-ID: <495FA4EE.2090806@gmail.com> David Kowis wrote: > Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > | > | Can someone explain this? > | > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ caching-dns-server-error-lame-server-resolving-294136/ > > > Use djbdns! It doesn't suck as much! ;P > That's because the name server is Windows run by the SAC IT department. I once told them that running a Linux server would be easier and safer, but they didn't want to listen. Their knowledge level is relatively low, but I guess that's average for IT departments in medium institutions. -- Bruce From w5omr at att.net Sat Jan 3 11:52:12 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Sat Jan 3 11:52:21 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F95FA.5080409@cis.sac.accd.edu> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> <495F95FA.5080409@cis.sac.accd.edu> Message-ID: <495FA5CC.6080300@att.net> skolars wrote: > > Thanks, I will look into it. We have not changed anything in DNS for > awhile now, however we do have to go through someone who has a terrible > time with system administration. Due to this it may be early next week, > when they come back to work, before I can get anything done. > > Steve Since this -is- a problem, I went back and looked at all the times I got this message... and it's popped up since early December. Perhaps this is the ammo you need to tel your SysAdmin that -something- should be done. Soon. (if it's that big of a problem) root@w5omr Sat Jan 03 11:47:52 /var/log :> less messages | grep accd.edu Dec 11 02:14:24 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 17 02:16:30 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 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'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 28 02:39:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 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'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 30 02:33:44 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 -Geoff From henry.pugsley at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 12:01:07 2009 From: henry.pugsley at gmail.com (Henry Pugsley) Date: Sat Jan 3 12:01:09 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> Message-ID: <1003aeaa0901031001i4ecdfd75jc3363e8a8e141285@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:16 AM, David Kowis wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > | > | Can someone explain this? > | > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > | 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > | > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/caching-dns-server-error-lame-server-resolving-294136/ > > Use djbdns! It doesn't suck as much! ;P > > - -- > David Kowis Doesn't suck as much, or sucks in totally new and interesting ways? ;) I'd like to see a Windows admin who barely understands Microsoft DNS trying to admin djbdns on a *NIX box .. you'd have a lot more problems than lame servers. Besides, changing DNS software won't do a bit of good if the correct records aren't entered into the zone files. A lame server is a server that is listed as authoritative in a higher level zone, but doesn't contain records about the zone it is supposedly authoritative for. The problem could be at the higher level (they enter the wrong authoritative servers) or at the lower level (they don't realize they are authoritative or just forgot some records). The repercussions range from annoying to disastrous. If only one of three DNS servers is lame, then you just generate extra traffic and error messages in remote DNS servers (which are normally supressed). If the only DNS server listed for a zone is lame, then DNS resolution simply doesn't work for that zone and people tend to notice. -Henry From alesmerises at satx.rr.com Sat Jan 3 12:29:01 2009 From: alesmerises at satx.rr.com (Alan Lesmerises) Date: Sat Jan 3 12:28:47 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495FA5CC.6080300@att.net> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> <495F95FA.5080409@cis.sac.accd.edu> <495FA5CC.6080300@att.net> Message-ID: <495FAE6D.6090902@satx.rr.com> I just noticed that all of the errors are occurring between 2 & 3 AM. Do _you_ have something going on at that time where you're trying to resolve those URLs, or would that be occurring at the server end? Al Lesmerises Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > skolars wrote: >> >> Thanks, I will look into it. We have not changed anything in DNS for >> awhile now, however we do have to go through someone who has a terrible >> time with system administration. Due to this it may be early next week, >> when they come back to work, before I can get anything done. >> >> Steve > > Since this -is- a problem, I went back and looked at all the times I > got this message... and it's popped up since early December. > > Perhaps this is the ammo you need to tel your SysAdmin that > -something- should be done. Soon. (if it's that big of a problem) > > > root@w5omr Sat Jan 03 11:47:52 > /var/log > :> less messages | grep accd.edu > Dec 11 02:14:24 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 12 02:12:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 13 02:14:33 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 14 02:16:16 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 15 02:15:58 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 16 02:15:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 17 02:16:30 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 17 02:16:26 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:16:59 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 18 02:17:00 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 19 02:14:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 20 02:19:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:51 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:52 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:52 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 21 02:26:52 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 26 02:15:28 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:06 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 27 02:23:07 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:31 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 28 02:39:32 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:49 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:49 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:49 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:50 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:50 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 29 02:30:50 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 30 02:33:44 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'chrono.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 30 02:33:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Dec 31 02:46:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 1 02:46:13 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sundial.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:39 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 2 02:42:40 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 3 02:49:04 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'sol.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'ticker.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > Jan 3 02:49:05 w5omr named[3256]: lame server resolving > 'venus.cis.sac.accd.edu' (in 'cis.sac.accd.edu'?): 151.164.1.1#53 > > -Geoff > From satlug at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 3 21:12:15 2009 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Sat Jan 3 21:12:18 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Reiser file system and how Hans fell on CBS tonight Message-ID: CBS is currently showing their story about Hans Reiser and his wife, with a little Linux among the scandal. --Don -- Migraine: All the fun of a hangover without the bother of getting drunk. From ovalvw57 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 3 21:21:17 2009 From: ovalvw57 at yahoo.com (That clown again....) Date: Sat Jan 3 21:21:20 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Reiser file system and how Hans fell on CBS tonight Message-ID: <900150.13192.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Don Wright wrote: > CBS is currently showing their story about Hans Reiser and his wife, with a little Linux among the scandal.? --Don Just goes to show that reiserfs is a real killer file system. Bill From mgarcia5 at satx.rr.com Sat Jan 3 21:30:11 2009 From: mgarcia5 at satx.rr.com (MGarcia) Date: Sat Jan 3 21:30:06 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090104033002.TPEN73.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@zim> If they don't claim it, I'd like it for my little nephew. He is 10 and doesn't have any video gaming system. This would be a wonderful gift for him. Let me know if you still have this. Thanks, Mark Garcia -----Original Message----- From: satlug-bounces@satlug.org [mailto:satlug-bounces@satlug.org] On Behalf Of Ernest De Leon Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT - Giving away Nintendo Game Cube Someone has claimed it for now...if they don't show for some reason, I will let the next person who asked have it. Ernest On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:44 PM, ed wrote: > Ernest De Leon wrote: > >> I want to ask the list first before I head to the goodwill: >> >> Does anyone on the list know of a family with children that would like a >> Nintendo Game Cube? It has all necessary wires, 2 wireless controllers (I >> know there are 2 more and some wired ones which I am looking for at the >> moment). I also have 2 or 3 games for it. I do not use it at all and no >> one >> that I know wants one. If you happen to know of someone, preferably >> someone >> who may not be able to afford one, please let me know. I know I should >> have >> done this right before Christmas because someone may have wanted to give >> it >> as a gift, but I was too busy at the time. At any rate, if no one wants it >> by the end of next week, I will take it to the goodwill. >> >> Thanks, >> Ernest >> >> > Hi Ernest; > > My son-in-law would probably love it. Do you require any arrangements? > > Cheers; > Ed > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From jfw5cpa at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 23:27:53 2009 From: jfw5cpa at gmail.com (Jim Wells) Date: Sat Jan 3 23:27:55 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Reiser file system and how Hans fell on CBS tonight In-Reply-To: <900150.13192.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <900150.13192.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0901032127n614d847aredd09d8e49e330be@mail.gmail.com> Ouch!! On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:21 PM, That clown again.... wrote: > --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Don Wright wrote: > > CBS is currently showing their story about Hans Reiser and his wife, with > a little Linux among the scandal. --Don > > > Just goes to show that reiserfs is a real killer file system. > > > Bill > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From w5omr at att.net Sun Jan 4 06:12:20 2009 From: w5omr at att.net (Geoff/W5OMR) Date: Sun Jan 4 06:12:31 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Attention SAC authorized personnel In-Reply-To: <495FAE6D.6090902@satx.rr.com> References: <495F6078.6020305@att.net> <495F7336.8020204@shlrm.org> <495F95FA.5080409@cis.sac.accd.edu> <495FA5CC.6080300@att.net> <495FAE6D.6090902@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4960A7A4.3010909@att.net> Alan Lesmerises wrote: > I just noticed that all of the errors are occurring between 2 & 3 AM. > Do _you_ have something going on at that time where you're trying to > resolve those URLs, or would that be occurring at the server end? Nothing in cron at that time, Al, on -my- machine. From satlug at net153.net Sun Jan 4 12:30:36 2009 From: satlug at net153.net (Samuel Leon) Date: Sun Jan 4 12:30:39 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Reiser file system and how Hans fell on CBS tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4961004C.3040709@net153.net> Don Wright wrote: > CBS is currently showing their story about Hans Reiser and his wife, with a > little Linux among the scandal. --Don > Crap I missed it! When is the re run or did anyone record it? Sam From president at satlug.org Sun Jan 4 20:14:12 2009 From: president at satlug.org (Jim Wells, President) Date: Sun Jan 4 20:14:14 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Just a reminder that out January Meeting is going to be on the 8th, which is this Thursday. We will be discussing the upcoming Computer Show as well as the Installfest that is approaching. Also, some of you have expressed an interest in ordering SATLUG shirts. At present we have 13 confirmed orders either paid for, or with checks being mailed. We need 11 more shirts to make the minimum order of 24. If we are only a couple short, there won't be a problem with getting them to make the order. If we are short more than that, we might have to delay ordering until after the February meeting. If we HAVE to delay, I plan on being at the computer show at the end of January so hopefully we can get any needed shirts requested & paid for there. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I would rather order the shirts the Monday after the meeting. I realize that if we are short on the order, it will have to wait until we have the full 24 shirts. I put the prices below since I realized I didn't have the prices all together in one e-mail. Also if you want a polo shirt you will need to tell me what color you want as well as an alternated color in case the other is unavailable. Jim Wells, President SATLUG Long Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-XL) $20.00 Long Sleeve Polo Shirts (2XL - 4XL) $25.00 Short Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 Short Sleeve Denim Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (S-XL) $20.00 Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (2XL-4XL) $25.00 From skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu Sun Jan 4 21:07:41 2009 From: skolars at cis.sac.accd.edu (skolars) Date: Sun Jan 4 21:08:02 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] InstallFest Message-ID: <4961797D.6050802@cis.sac.accd.edu> It is time to get another semester started. The next SAC InstallFest is scheduled for the 31st of January. If you can make it please e-mail me off-list so I can get an approximate head count of volunteers. Thanks for helping out, Steve From bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com Sun Jan 4 21:23:56 2009 From: bartonekdragracing at yahoo.com (Alex Bartonek) Date: Sun Jan 4 21:23:57 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. In-Reply-To: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <377270.61985.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> what do the shirts look like? --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Jim Wells, President wrote: > From: Jim Wells, President > Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:14 PM > Hello all, > > Just a reminder that out January Meeting is going to be on > the 8th, which is > this Thursday. We will be discussing the upcoming Computer > Show as well as > the Installfest that is approaching. > > Also, some of you have expressed an interest in ordering > SATLUG shirts. At > present we have 13 confirmed orders either paid for, or > with checks being > mailed. We need 11 more shirts to make the minimum order > of 24. If we are > only a couple short, there won't be a problem with > getting them to make the > order. If we are short more than that, we might have to > delay ordering > until after the February meeting. If we HAVE to delay, I > plan on being at > the computer show at the end of January so hopefully we can > get any needed > shirts requested & paid for there. > > IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I would rather order the shirts the > Monday after the > meeting. I realize that if we are short on the order, it > will have to wait > until we have the full 24 shirts. > > I put the prices below since I realized I didn't have > the prices all > together in one e-mail. Also if you want a polo shirt you > will need to tell > me what color you want as well as an alternated color in > case the other is > unavailable. > > Jim Wells, President > SATLUG > > > Long Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Polo Shirts (2XL - 4XL) $25.00 > Short Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > > > Short Sleeve Denim Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (S-XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (2XL-4XL) $25.00 > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to > unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From nathan at gvtc.com Sun Jan 4 21:42:01 2009 From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan) Date: Sun Jan 4 21:42:07 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] InstallFest Message-ID: <20090104194201.1E65142C@resin09.mta.everyone.net> You would choose a date of the train show!!!!!!! Nathan --- skolars@cis.sac.accd.edu wrote: From: skolars To: X-otic Computer Systems of San Antonio , "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" Cc: Subject: [SATLUG] InstallFest Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:07:41 -0600 It is time to get another semester started. The next SAC InstallFest is scheduled for the 31st of January. If you can make it please e-mail me off-list so I can get an approximate head count of volunteers. Thanks for helping out, Steve -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From storey at clamp.ws Sun Jan 4 23:30:33 2009 From: storey at clamp.ws (Storey Clamp) Date: Sun Jan 4 23:30:38 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] InstallFest In-Reply-To: <20090104194201.1E65142C@resin09.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090104194201.1E65142C@resin09.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <49619AF9.6050807@clamp.ws> Nathan wrote: > You would choose a date of the train show!!!!!!! > > Nathan > > > Which train show? The one I like is January 16 http://diamondhead.org Storey From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Mon Jan 5 00:27:09 2009 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks) Date: Mon Jan 5 00:28:45 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Re: [XCSSA] Open Source Fest Message-ID: <200901050027.09341.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 01:26:29 pm X-otic Computer Systems of San Antonio wrote: > Ok everyone...now is the time to step up and think about conducting a > session/workshop. Nathan is the only one that has volunteered thus > far. It would be great to have a session/workshop on sendmail. The > newbies class is always popular--any takers? Hey Steve... I did one for XCSSA (at Rackspace) back in 2003. It's listed in the "XCSSA-files" here: http://xcssa.org/files/ Here's the non-rackspace version of my Sendmail cheat sheet for the class: http://xcssa.org/files/sendmail-cheat-sheet-NONRACK.pdf > We need to get > sessions/workshops/sponsors locked in soon--it is possible we will get > some real advertising this year, but we need a good offering locked in > soon. I believe that I also gave a sendmail session back at either the 2003 or 2004 OSFest (IIRC).. That's the first time that I met "Dr. Bruce"... when he attended my intro sendmail session and critiqued me from the rear of the class wit his signed copy of the O'Reilly Sendmail book.. hehe.. Talk about being on the spot.. hehe.. I might also be able to get one of my counterparts from Mailtrust (division of Rackspace) to also do a piece on Postfix that we could maybe dovetail (no pun intended) together with my sendmail session. Let me know what you're lookingfor Steve.. Tweeks From tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org Mon Jan 5 00:30:57 2009 From: tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org (Tweeks) Date: Mon Jan 5 00:30:58 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Reiser file system and how Hans fell on CBS tonight In-Reply-To: <900150.13192.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <900150.13192.qm@web50404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200901050030.57238.tweeksjunk2@theweeks.org> On Saturday 03 January 2009 09:21:17 pm That clown again.... wrote: > --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Don Wright wrote: > > CBS is currently showing their story about Hans Reiser and his wife, with > > a little Linux among the scandal.? --Don > > Just goes to show that reiserfs is a real killer file system. Wow.. how could we all have missed that one liner! hehe Tweeks From nathan at gvtc.com Mon Jan 5 06:36:20 2009 From: nathan at gvtc.com (Nathan) Date: Mon Jan 5 06:36:22 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] InstallFest Message-ID: <20090105043620.1E6537AF@resin09.mta.everyone.net> SAMRA show at Live Oak the week after the Computer Show. Nathan --- storey@clamp.ws wrote: From: Storey Clamp To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List Subject: Re: [SATLUG] InstallFest Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:30:33 -0600 Nathan wrote: > You would choose a date of the train show!!!!!!! > > Nathan > > > Which train show? The one I like is January 16 http://diamondhead.org Storey -- _______________________________________________ SATLUG mailing list SATLUG@satlug.org http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) From luis at luisgarza.com Mon Jan 5 07:13:24 2009 From: luis at luisgarza.com (Luis Garza) Date: Mon Jan 5 07:13:26 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] MD5 hashing algorithm cracked Message-ID: <587339.83860.qm@web37005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Techjaws reports that the 25th annual Choas Communication Conference has demonstrated an application that can crack the MD5 hashing algorithm. What uses the MD5 hashing algorithm? SSL Certificates, passwords ... Who uses the MD5 hashing algorithm? Verisign. http://www.techjaws.com/hackers-break-ssl-certificates/ From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Jan 5 10:20:26 2009 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Jan 5 10:20:28 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] vim version changes Message-ID: <200901051620.n05GKQND027077@biochem.uthscsa.edu> In our latest upgrade we went from vim 6.3.7 to 7.0.237. One change in vim I noticed is that the backspace key now erases hard returns, the old version did not do that, and stopped at the beginning of the line. Now the question could be argued if this is the appropriate behavior, but I am used to the old way and liked it. Is there a setting in vimrc that I can make to prevent backspaces from being erased? Thanks, -b. From jfw5cpa at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 10:47:04 2009 From: jfw5cpa at gmail.com (Jim Wells) Date: Mon Jan 5 10:47:06 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts In-Reply-To: <377270.61985.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> <377270.61985.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8c9fbbeb0901050847u14e93d1dn85079fcc32dcbf3f@mail.gmail.com> The original e-mail I sent out on 11/23 has the link with the item number for the shirts, but they are polo shirts, either long sleeve or short sleeve, or denim shirts, also long sleeve or short sleeve. A photo of the logo is on SATLUG's main webpage. Jim On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Alex Bartonek wrote: > what do the shirts look like? > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Jim Wells, President wrote: > > > From: Jim Wells, President > > Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. > > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" > > > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:14 PM > > Hello all, > > > > Just a reminder that out January Meeting is going to be on > > the 8th, which is > > this Thursday. We will be discussing the upcoming Computer > > Show as well as > > the Installfest that is approaching. > > > > Also, some of you have expressed an interest in ordering > > SATLUG shirts. At > > present we have 13 confirmed orders either paid for, or > > with checks being > > mailed. We need 11 more shirts to make the minimum order > > of 24. If we are > > only a couple short, there won't be a problem with > > getting them to make the > > order. If we are short more than that, we might have to > > delay ordering > > until after the February meeting. If we HAVE to delay, I > > plan on being at > > the computer show at the end of January so hopefully we can > > get any needed > > shirts requested & paid for there. > > > > IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I would rather order the shirts the > > Monday after the > > meeting. I realize that if we are short on the order, it > > will have to wait > > until we have the full 24 shirts. > > > > I put the prices below since I realized I didn't have > > the prices all > > together in one e-mail. Also if you want a polo shirt you > > will need to tell > > me what color you want as well as an alternated color in > > case the other is > > unavailable. > > > > Jim Wells, President > > SATLUG > > > > > > Long Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-XL) $20.00 > > Long Sleeve Polo Shirts (2XL - 4XL) $25.00 > > Short Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > > > > > > Short Sleeve Denim Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (S-XL) $20.00 > > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (2XL-4XL) $25.00 > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > SATLUG mailing list > > SATLUG@satlug.org > > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to > > unsubscribe > > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From jeremymann at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 11:01:00 2009 From: jeremymann at gmail.com (Jeremy Mann) Date: Mon Jan 5 11:01:01 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] vim version changes In-Reply-To: <200901051620.n05GKQND027077@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200901051620.n05GKQND027077@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <79ec289f0901050901x674c546dx6347e4cb3085c75e@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Borries Demeler wrote: > In our latest upgrade we went from vim 6.3.7 to 7.0.237. > One change in vim I noticed is that the backspace key now erases > hard returns, the old version did not do that, and stopped at the > beginning of the line. > > Now the question could be argued if this is the appropriate behavior, > but I am used to the old way and liked it. Is there a setting in vimrc > that I can make to prevent backspaces from being erased? What do you have in your .vimrc file? Setting this may help: set nocompatible -- Jeremy Mann jeremy@biochem.uthscsa.edu University of Texas Health Science Center Bioinformatics Core Facility http://www.bioinformatics.uthscsa.edu Phone: (210) 567-2672 From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Jan 5 11:15:57 2009 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Jan 5 11:15:59 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] vim version changes In-Reply-To: <79ec289f0901050901x674c546dx6347e4cb3085c75e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901051715.n05HFvaj031590@biochem.uthscsa.edu> > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Borries Demeler > wrote: > > In our latest upgrade we went from vim 6.3.7 to 7.0.237. > > One change in vim I noticed is that the backspace key now erases > > hard returns, the old version did not do that, and stopped at the > > beginning of the line. > > > > Now the question could be argued if this is the appropriate behavior, > > but I am used to the old way and liked it. Is there a setting in vimrc > > that I can make to prevent backspaces from being erased? > > What do you have in your .vimrc file? > > Setting this may help: > > set nocompatible Does that work for you? Because for me it doesn't. if your vim doesn't do that, perhaps you have a different property set. -b. From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 11:40:01 2009 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Mon Jan 5 11:40:03 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] MD5 hashing algorithm cracked In-Reply-To: <587339.83860.qm@web37005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <587339.83860.qm@web37005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <496245F1.5060704@gmail.com> Luis Garza wrote: > Techjaws reports that the 25th annual Choas Communication Conference has > demonstrated an application that can crack the MD5 hashing algorithm. What > uses the MD5 hashing algorithm? SSL Certificates, passwords ... Who uses the > MD5 hashing algorithm? Verisign. IIRC, most if not all of the CAs have or are in the process of changing to SHA1. -- Bruce From bruce.dubbs at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 11:50:33 2009 From: bruce.dubbs at gmail.com (Bruce Dubbs) Date: Mon Jan 5 11:50:35 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] vim version changes In-Reply-To: <200901051620.n05GKQND027077@biochem.uthscsa.edu> References: <200901051620.n05GKQND027077@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: <49624869.2060408@gmail.com> Borries Demeler wrote: > In our latest upgrade we went from vim 6.3.7 to 7.0.237. One change in vim I > noticed is that the backspace key now erases hard returns, the old version > did not do that, and stopped at the beginning of the line. > Is there a setting in vimrc that I can make to prevent backspaces from being > erased? :set backspace=0 -- Bruce 'backspace' 'bs' string (default "") global {not in Vi} Influences the working of , , CTRL-W and CTRL-U in Insert mode. This is a list of items, separated by commas. Each item allows a way to backspace over something: value effect ~ indent allow backspacing over autoindent eol allow backspacing over line breaks (join lines) start allow backspacing over the start of insert; CTRL-W and CTRL-U stop once at the start of insert. When the value is empty, Vi compatible backspacing is used. For backwards compatibility with version 5.4 and earlier: value effect ~ 0 same as ":set backspace=" (Vi compatible) 1 same as ":set backspace=indent,eol" 2 same as ":set backspace=indent,eol,start" From demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu Mon Jan 5 12:13:20 2009 From: demeler at biochem.uthscsa.edu (Borries Demeler) Date: Mon Jan 5 12:13:22 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] vim version changes In-Reply-To: <49624869.2060408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901051813.n05IDK9w003835@biochem.uthscsa.edu> Right on, Bruce! This did the trick, thanks very much! -b. > > Borries Demeler wrote: > > In our latest upgrade we went from vim 6.3.7 to 7.0.237. One change in vim I > > noticed is that the backspace key now erases hard returns, the old version > > did not do that, and stopped at the beginning of the line. > > > Is there a setting in vimrc that I can make to prevent backspaces from being > > erased? > > :set backspace=0 > > -- Bruce > > 'backspace' 'bs' string (default "") > global > {not in Vi} > Influences the working of , , CTRL-W and CTRL-U in Insert > mode. This is a list of items, separated by commas. Each item allows > a way to backspace over something: > value effect ~ > indent allow backspacing over autoindent > eol allow backspacing over line breaks (join lines) > start allow backspacing over the start of insert; CTRL-W and CTRL-U > stop once at the start of insert. > > When the value is empty, Vi compatible backspacing is used. > > For backwards compatibility with version 5.4 and earlier: > value effect ~ > 0 same as ":set backspace=" (Vi compatible) > 1 same as ":set backspace=indent,eol" > 2 same as ":set backspace=indent,eol,start" > > -- > _______________________________________________ > SATLUG mailing list > SATLUG@satlug.org > http://alamo.satlug.org/mailman/listinfo/satlug to unsubscribe > Powered by Rackspace (www.rackspace.com) > From horned0wl93 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 13:56:31 2009 From: horned0wl93 at gmail.com (ed) Date: Mon Jan 5 13:56:08 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. In-Reply-To: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <496265EF.5050005@gmail.com> Jim Wells, President wrote: > Hello all, > > Just a reminder that out January Meeting is going to be on the 8th, which is > this Thursday. We will be discussing the upcoming Computer Show as well as > the Installfest that is approaching. > Darned... I still can't make it for teaching that night... > Also, some of you have expressed an interest in ordering SATLUG shirts. At > present we have 13 confirmed orders either paid for, or with checks being > mailed. We need 11 more shirts to make the minimum order of 24. If we are > only a couple short, there won't be a problem with getting them to make the > order. If we are short more than that, we might have to delay ordering > until after the February meeting. If we HAVE to delay, I plan on being at > the computer show at the end of January so hopefully we can get any needed > shirts requested & paid for there. > When is the Computer Show? > IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I would rather order the shirts the Monday after the > meeting. I realize that if we are short on the order, it will have to wait > until we have the full 24 shirts. > I'd like one, but cannot order until the 15th... No cash in hand... > I put the prices below since I realized I didn't have the prices all > together in one e-mail. Also if you want a polo shirt you will need to tell > me what color you want as well as an alternated color in case the other is > unavailable. > > Jim Wells, President > SATLUG > > > Long Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Polo Shirts (2XL - 4XL) $25.00 > Short Sleeve Polo Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > > Short Sleeve Denim Shirt: (S-4XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (S-XL) $20.00 > Long Sleeve Denim Shirts: (2XL-4XL) $25.00 > Cheers... Ed From satlug at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 5 14:09:26 2009 From: satlug at sbcglobal.net (Don Wright) Date: Mon Jan 5 14:09:28 2009 Subject: [SATLUG] Upcoming SATLUG meeting & SATLUG Shirts. In-Reply-To: <496265EF.5050005@gmail.com> References: <8c9fbbeb0901041814t62e92382ufcf8368f178cfa4a@mail.gmail.com> <496265EF.5050005@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:56:31 -0600, ed wrote: >Jim Wells, President wrote: >Darned... I still can't make it for teaching that night...