[SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's

Greg Swift gregswift at gmail.com
Mon May 18 23:58:06 CDT 2009


Reiterated Disclaimer: I have a telephone line with them (i like being a
member, because it does slightly mean something) and USED to work for them.
If I lived in AT&T's area I wouldnt have a phone (don't like land lines, in
fact even though I pay for mine, it hasn't had dial tone in a while cause
there is a short on it and I haven't felt like taking the time to get it
fixed cause I don't have it to use, I have it to be a member-owner).

All of GVTC's telco services are tariffed (they have to get things approved
from some government committee or some such).  As a rural telco GVTC
receives financial compensation per the Universal Service Fund (USF).
Everyone (including those in big cities) pay towards this fund, and it helps
balance out the high cost of providing service to those in rural areas.  The
way (this may be changing with the whole Universal Internet push) this
currently works is that they only get credit for you as a customer towards
this fund if you have telephone service.  Thus if they provide you internet
service without a telephone line.  Your seriously gripping about having to
pay an extra $18 a month?  With 5Mbps at 29.95/month on a term+ bundle (on
any of the 3 services)?  Thats not really a bad deal. (If you don't like
terms and a bundle when you are already stuck with them and have to pay for
multiple services anyways you are just stubborn IMHO).  I've seen the
numbers (and I can't recall them years later), but if you are in a Fiber
area, its a long time until they even really break even on you, even with
the USF fee.

Based on GVTC's site (
http://gvtc.com/internet/broadband_residential-pricechart.php) if you are on
DSL you get a max 5Mbps.  Cable maxes at 12MB, and If you are FTTH, you can
get 20Mbps.  And if you on a 8Mbps+ plan and aren't pulling 7.5 internal on
their network, call. complain.  But if you can't get more than 5 to
dslreports, *shrug* don't know what to tell you.  The second it leaves their
network there is only so much they can do.  I know for a fact that they have
quite a few decent sized pipes, and more coming. I also won't deny that they
occasionally lag behind on capacity. Getting new circuits on good paths
external to them can be occasionally problematic for various reasons, but
hopefully a project they've been working on for ~2yrs will fix that, and its
not necessarily their fault it takes that long.  Its a special deal that is
requiring other providers to do some big work as well.

-greg
former net/sys admin @ gvtc

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 23:32, Enrique Sanchez Vela
<esanchezvela at yahoo.com>wrote:

>
>
> ok, I just ran a couple of speed test to their site and the ones provided
> by DSLreports.com, on their site they claim I have a 7.5 Mb download speed
> while the ones provided by dslreports I hardly get beyond 5 Mb, on neither
> of them could get beyond 800kb of upload stream.
>
> my main quarrel is with  them is the fact I am stuck paying for a phone
> line I don't want,  I am not a telco specialist but that sounds like BS.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Support the troops, bring them home.
>
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
>
>
> --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Greg Swift <gregswift at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Greg Swift <gregswift at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > To: "The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List" <satlug at satlug.org
> >
> > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:57 PM
> > I quit there 2 years ago, so they
> > might have expanded a bit more than I am
> > stating here.  GVTC provides cable modem internet
> > service and FTTH
> > (Fiber-to-the-home) in some areas.  Businesses along
> > the mainstrip has
> > access to FTTB (Fiber to the business). FIOS is Verizion's
> > branded FTTH.
> > (its a name not a technology).   I won't say
> > things were perfect while I was
> > there but I know that quite a few of us did (and they
> > probably still do) try
> > and make the product as functional as possible.  I
> > can't vouch for the
> > management staff (I have my own opinions about their
> > intentions, and thus
> > part of the reason I'm not there anymore) but the employees
> > and technicians
> > I knew did try to get the stuph running as well as
> > possible.  Both the FTTH
> > and the Cable internet have a ~8Mbps service (or thats what
> > it was 2yrs
> > ago).  The upstream connections to the internet were
> > fairly signifigant
> > right as I left (I had just ordered a few OC3s) and I've
> > heard rumor that
> > they are in the process of greatly enhancing that.
> >
> > If you have a problem with their service, call and
> > complain.  Make some
> > noise.  You are a member owner, that makes you the
> > shareholder they are
> > responsible to, unlinke TWC and AT&T where you are just
> > some common
> > customer.  I can't tell you how many service calls I
> > had to take care of
> > because the customer was upset, and my job was managing the
> > network and
> > servers.  They are there to serve their member
> > owners.  Of which I am one.
> > Heck when I got the mail the other day that they are
> > finally pulling fiber
> > into my neighborhood I was excited (I moved into a
> > neighborhood that was one
> > of their last copper installs).
> >
> > Anyways yeah...
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:55, Enrique Sanchez Vela
> > <esanchezvela at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have GVTC and its supposed FIOS or SLOWs, I would
> > much rather have access
> > > via cable than paying 16.xx + tax and surcharges for
> > the phone line I don't
> > > need/want.
> > >
> > >  --------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Matt Graham <matthewalan77 at gmail.com>
> > > To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List
> > <satlug at satlug.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:59:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > >
> > > Some areas of Boerne have TWC RR or Verizon
> > FIOS.  Depends on the
> > > Neighborhood.  I have GVTC and have been very
> > pleased with my 8Mbps
> > > connection.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Peter Cross <pjcrux at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tell you what... We'll trade. You can take crime
> > warner and I'll take
> > > > GVTC...
> > > >
> > > > At least GVTC is local!
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Enrique Sanchez
> > Vela <
> > > > esanchezvela at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think so, I've been trying for ages
> > to get rid of them w/o
> > > > success.
> > > > >
> > > > > best regards,
> > > > > esv.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Support the troops, bring them home.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2924
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, scs at worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs at worldlinkisp.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: scs at worldlinkisp.com
> > <scs at worldlinkisp.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [SATLUG] OT: Boerne ISP's
> > > > > > To: satlug at satlug.org
> > > > > > Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > > > > > Are there any ISP's in Boerne,
> > > > > > TX  (inside the city limits)
> > > > > > "other than" Guadalup Valley Telephone
> > Company?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am helping a friend move to Boerne next
> > week and they need
> > > > > > economical and reliable residential
> > provider ( 1.5Mbs ~
> > > > > > 3.0Mbs ).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA    Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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