[SATLUG] Advice on an ftp app?
tweeksjunk2 at theweeks.org
Sun Aug 15 01:16:19 CDT 2010
On Saturday 14 August 2010 03:47:36 am Nate wrote:
> > FTP? Really?
> > Ditch FTP man.. (unless you're talking about sftp), it's a nightmare.
> Honestly, I am talking Wordpress themes here. If somebody somehow
> intercepts it in transit, it wouldn't really bother me. I understand the
> gist of the suggestion, though.
I'm not talking so much about content encryption as I am just outdated,
old-ass protocols. a) it's multi-port and takes stateful inspection to get
around firewalls. (i.e. SUCKS).. and b) forget about content encryption.. *I*
would be worried about my login/password being in the clear.. every time aI
> > Again.. not a GUI man.. so from vim the command would be:
> > <esc>:!rsync -avz /local/dir host:remote/dir @
> That whole command? I sync after almost every save and save after almost
> every change.
You don't even need that much... to record the whole command as the "r" macro
within vim, just type:
<esc>qr:!rsync -avz /local/dir host:remote/dir @<enter>q
and you've just recorded it within vim as the macro called "r".. Now to do
it.. you just type:
WHAM! You just told vim to spawn another rsync in the background. :) Very
> Already do, for a lot of the things it's good for. If I wanted to avoid
> the command line I would have already jumped to Windows. But Cygwin just
> isn't the same as a Bash shell.
Ehh.. yeah.. True dat! ;)
> > GUIs are fat and slow. GUIs expect point-n-clickers and breed
> > inefficiency. The command line is raw power. It expects smart+lazy
> > people to automate stuff and be efficient.
> You must be a sysadmin. I am not.
Have been off and on over the last 15 years.. I run a couple servers.. so I
guess technically I still am. Sure do feel rusty sometimes though.. :)
> I'm a web designer/developer.
Ahh... Please never admin a server.. hehe ;)
> can't make pretty pictures in Photoshop or Gimp or Illustrator on the
> command line.
Actually... hehe.. (see gnuplot, imagemagick, etc)
> Besides, linux does have the quickest gui (gnome anyway)
> I've used.
Heh.. Check our XFCE or some of the new slimmed down GUIs. Even Faster.
What's REALLY cool is using an X GUI remotely over an ssh tunnel. Windows
folks (and even some newed Linux folks) still have problems understanding how
THAT works.. Imagine running Firefox on your server out in some data
center.. but having it draw it's window and take your keyboard/mouse input
from your local machine (not like VNC or remote desktop.. but a single
firefox window locally that is "running" on your server. And five other GUI
apps.. GUIs all local.. but all "running" on machines across the Internet.
That's the power of X (vs Windows, etc).
> With OSX, that's
> another story. It is by far the heaviest gui on any platform. It's
> pretty but Quartz is hangs up all the time. Processors completely empty
> and yet there it is, the spinning beach ball. Ugh.
I couldn't say.. but folks on the Linux side are just as bad. They get
themselves a snazzy new dual core laptop with blazing fast 3d graphics card..
and what do they do with it? Run some fancy 3D desktop with rendered special
effects that ends up dragging the system (CPUs) back down. We do it to
But I guess with Linux.. as least you have the OPTION to do something
different.. And I guess that's what it comes down to for me. Freedom to do
what the hell I want.
> Anywho, thanks for the links. I'll definitely see if rsync works with
Heh.. you kinda missed my whole point there.. while checking out FileZilla
w/rsync.. Please also start to learn vim. Honestly, she /is/ a bit of a bitch
to learn at first.. but after you warm up to her (or she to you).. she's a
loyal friend who will fetch your slippers and jump through tons of hoops for
ya! :) Especially for editing code, HTML and XML... really cool stuff!
Here are a couple HOWTOs on using vim for web publishing:
Web Editing: http://tips.webdesign10.com/vim-tips
Coding Foo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcpQ7koECgk&feature=related
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