[SATLUG] re: no subject heh

kcoriginal at yahoo.com kcoriginal at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 3 15:34:28 CST 2010

Heh heh heh heh!

Well put, Herb! Bravo!

Bundy...? Hmmm... as in Ted Bundy or Al Bundy? I dunno. Murderer or moron... Tough choice. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Herb Cee <hc at lookcee.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:25:48 
To: The San Antonio Linux User's Group Mailing List<satlug at satlug.org>
Subject: Re: [SATLUG] re: no subject heh

Hay KC & David, Since you prefer top post I am. I thought I would just 
comment on the Bundy distro (is that English enough?) U-8.04.  I started 
off trying to get Redhat 7.2 working I even bought the install box when 
it was on the shelves and while I did get it to finally boot up I never 
really got it to running and then finally DSL was available to me in 
rural E-TX and I started getting more interested in getting free of MS 
and the troubles of spys, ad servers etc. and I got a copy of Fedora-X 
and i was having lots of config probs and was very frustrated and about 
then Dan G suggested that I might do better with Ubuntu and a frin sent 
me a copy of U- 5.04. I have stayed with the silly names till I got to 
8.04 and decided since it was LTS,  was doing all my work great, to stop 
there. I have been grateful to Dan ever since and he has been of help to 
many, bless his heart and the others on the list that are so generous 
with their time.

I know nothing about Slackware altho I have tried out a few other 
distros. I do not care for programming I am bad at language. I have some 
sight problems with 79+old eyes and of course there is the problem of 
remembering my name on waking much less code, so CLI jockey I ain't. I 
have been reading all the post for 3yrs now and it seems to me that 
struggling beginners like myself are better off using a well maintained 
distro that has an update manager to watch over us, is way better. YAY 
for Synaptic.

I guess it depends on the individuals needs. If one cannot find a distro 
you like. You can DL LFS and build your own. That would be way deeper 
than I really want to go so I will wait for April when the next U-10.04 
is released and upgrade then. Until then I recommend trying a Bundy to 
anyone who ask about Linux.

And then there is this: The term /fedora/ was in use as early as 1891. 
Originally a women's fashion into the 20th century, the fedora came into 
use in about 1919, as a men's middle-class clothing accessory. Its 
popularity soared, and eventually it eclipsed the similar-looking 
Homburg <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homburg_%28hat%29> by the early 
1920s. Fedoras can be found in nearly any color imaginable, but black, 
grey, tan, brown, and red are the most popular. The word /fedora/ comes 
from the title of an 1882 play by Victorien Sardou 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorien_Sardou>, Fédora 
written for Sarah Bernhardt 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora#cite_note-1> The play was first 
performed in the U.S. in 1889. Bernhardt played Princess Fédora, the 
heroine of the play, and she wore a hat similar to a fedora.
And this: /Fedora vs Ubuntu ... 

And this: //Ubuntu vs Slackware/

I think it's all been said...

KC wrote:
> Actually, I still can't believe I am defending Ubuntu... can we call it something else? American imperialist scum here prefers an English name for his distro... :)
> Nah, Nah... the implication wasn't that one can't anything done with Slackware... it was that *I* can't get anything done running in circles chasing distros. I got hung up in the logic puzzles that were the flame wars of the early 2000's - each singing the praises of the Red Hat file structure and config layout over the Debian one. Oh but BSD is more like REAL Unix. Hey, the COOL haxors use SlackWare! Well, the banks use a lot of Solaris, so it must be reliable. Whatever the military uses, now that's respectable..! Bash vs. Csh vs Tcsh vs etc, etc. The Red Hat vs. BSD vs. Debian vs. LFS. Everytime I went to build a package, something was deprecated, my documentation was 6 months old and no longer worked, etc. I just spun out for near a decade...! Meanwhile, I had gotten real work in IT and learned so many things that a computer could DO besides play games and infect alien motherships with Jeff Goldblum's virii... I just wanted to get on with it already!
> That's when I said, "OK, Red Hat has the market share. They have the most potential future job offers. Fedora works out of the box, lemme just get started with SOMETHING that WORKS!" 
> (Ok, that's a clearer, flameless version of my Linux-evolution... sorry for the earlier mud! And, Yes, I was probably associating Gentoo in there somewhere! >@ )
> What drew YOU to SlackWare, David? I should have asked that question two posts ago.
> kc
>>    Slow down man! You've read quite a lot into my
>> comments so far. I've been a slacker for something like 9
>> months or more. My first experience with Linux was Ubuntu
>> 8.04 and I've always been big fan. At no point did I intend
>> to imply that I dislike Ubuntu. There are fiddly little
>> things about it that bug me is all. "Why even bother with
>> Ubuntu?" Well you have a point with this one, but as I
>> mentioned when I introduced myself I use Ubuntu on the
>> family's common computer. My brother also uses Ubuntu at his
>> place so I have a fair deal of experience administrating
>> Ubuntu boxes. It would be cruel of me to expect them to
>> master Slackware.
>>   Straight Debian has never really thrilled me. It's a
>> nice stable system but it's never really caught my eye. I'm
>> a command line jockey and I try to keep my desktop
>> lightweight and minimal. The distros that appeal to me most
>> pretty much boil down to slackware, arch, and CLI installs
>> of Ubuntu. I must say that I caught your implication that
>> Slackware is somehow too difficult or too demanding to "Get
>> some useful work done" as it were and I must protest. For me
>> Slackware has been my most productive environment which is
>> why I am so consistently drawn to it for all my personal
>> computing needs. Perhaps you're thinking of Gentoo... Am I
>> right? hah..
>>   My three most often used distros are Slackware, Ubuntu,
>> and DSL in that order. That's all I need.
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