[SATLUG] OT: Prep for safe equipment disposal

Alan Lesmerises alesmerises at satx.rr.com
Wed Oct 28 22:14:05 CDT 2015

Yes!  I don't think I would have found this company otherwise.  Thanks.

Destroying the drives wouldn't be my first choice, but if all else fails ...

Al Lesmerises

On 10/27/2015 11:55 PM, Travis England wrote:
> First-Shred at http://www.firstshredsanantonio.com/harddrivedestruction.php
> They're local. All I can advise is to give them a call and ask if they can
> remove the drives from your enclosures as well. They're licensed, bonded,
> and insured.
> Best Regards,
> Travis England
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:43 PM Alan Lesmerises <alesmerises at satx.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> On 10/26/2015 10:24 PM, Don Wright wrote:
>>> Alan Lesmerises wrote:
>>>> I have more than a couple of computers, external hard drives, flash
>>>> drives, etc., and at least some of them will have some sensitive
>>>> information on them. ... to securely wipe all the data off of them
>>>> What would be your suggestions for looking for a service like that?
>>> I think you're looking at this from the wrong end. Sensitive data should
>>> be properly encrypted so it is useless as it sits on the media until you
>>> personally unlock it each time it is needed. The more valuable something
>>> is -- either by its secrecy (proverbial formula for Coca-Cola) or by
>>> exploiting its knowledge (numbered Swiss bank account) -- the more
>>> layers of defense should be considered. You probably don't need an
>>> isolated system built of pre-1970 components in a Faraday-cage room, but
>>> it's sobering to know there are people whose job it is to exfiltrate
>>> data from just such a setting.
>>> Perhaps the keys to certain repositories could be trusted also to your
>>> lawyer (under attorney-client privilege) for items that may need to
>>> survive you, but it general I'd follow the adage: "Two may keep a secret
>>> if one of them is dead."
>>> Unfortunately, recent revelations about how badly the secure software &
>>> hardware industry worldwide has been polluted by the NSA and the like
>>> make this considerably easier said then done.  --Don
>> First, thanks for everyone's inputs so far.  I knew about the "DoD wipe"
>> process -- I should have mentioned that.
>> As to Don's point above, I actually don't believe I am looking at this
>> wrong.  I have passwords on files with really sensitive info (past tax
>> returns, banking records, etc.).  What I'm talking about (and concerned
>> with) is the large volume of "other" files that individually may not
>> reveal anything vital, but collectively could be used by an identity
>> thief (as an example) to do some damage, or some those that may be
>> embarrassing or would otherwise be something I don't want distributed
>> after I'm gone.
>> Several other members have suggested using one utility or another, and
>> some of them might do what I want.  The problem is that when I say my
>> wife is not computer literate, I was being _very_ generous -- I have had
>> to show her multiple time how to include an attachment in an e-mail,
>> from scratch, every time.  The chances of her learning how to a DoD wipe
>> of hard drives and the like herself are not only zero, I think they're
>> even negative!!!
>> The idea of physically destroying everything isn't feasible since (1) we
>> could be talking about several dozen drives of all types here and there,
>> (2) my wife would have no idea how to remove them where they're
>> installed or even where to look for a hard drive (and she probably
>> wouldn't even know what one looks like).
>> I have to assume that she would have no one to turn to for help in
>> getting this done, that she would not be able to do it herself, and she
>> would have to find and hire a person/business to do it for her.
>> What I was looking for (and still am) are some recommendations of
>> _trustworthy_ businesses (or at least "types" of businesses, if there is
>> such a category to describe them) that would do this kind of thing.
>> Basically, I have to lay our some instructions of how to get this done
>> and things for her to look for when trying to find a source to get that
>> kind of service.  I know there are companies that do secure document
>> destruction for commercial customers (we have a service like that at my
>> job), so I was thinking maybe there might be a similar service offered
>> for digital documents.
>> So if anyone has any suggestions for the situation as I described it,
>> please let me know.  Thanks.
>> Al Lesmerises
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